# In Recent Cycles, What's the Latest Someone's Entered the Nomination Race and Strongly Contended? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 8, 2011, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-recent-cycles-whats-the-latest-someones-entered-the-nomination-race-and-strongly-contended/588300 "2011-07-08T13:04:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-recent-cycles-whats-the-latest-someones-entered-the-nomination-race-and-strongly-contended/588300/61 "2011-07-14T11:25:54Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > Misdirection and balderdash. You want to tout Perry as the savior of mankind (I’m perfectly willing to use your own hyperbolic paraphrase) because he CREATES JOBS! You have resolutely refused to look at the quality of those jobs or the consequences of creating those jobs. > > Besides, if he got those jobs by attracting businesses from other states by boasting of lower taxes and the freedom to pollute, it won’t work on a national level. We won’t be stealing crappy jobs from Mexico and Thailand. And believe me, you won’t want those jobs, or to live here, if that’s the solution. > > The right has been “Brazilifying” the country for thirty years. It’s not just rich getting richer, poor getting poorer. It is rich getting beyond accountability, poor getting increasingly desperate. Perry’s jobs in Texas – where there is still a lot of poverty and unemployment – is exactly the America we shouldn’t settle for. Again, I’d rather have someone who created jobs than welfare recipiants, which is all Obama’s managed to create spending nearly a trillion dollars. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-recent-cycles-whats-the-latest-someones-entered-the-nomination-race-and-strongly-contended/588300/62 "2011-07-14T11:52:55Z")
You need some new material. ---
**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-recent-cycles-whats-the-latest-someones-entered-the-nomination-race-and-strongly-contended/588300/63 "2011-07-14T12:07:57Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > You need some new material. YOu mean that you think a stimulus that cost $278,000.00 per job “created” was a good investment? Really? Obama= Job Killer. Perry = Job creator. Choice is pretty clear to me! ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-recent-cycles-whats-the-latest-someones-entered-the-nomination-race-and-strongly-contended/588300/64 "2011-07-14T15:29:13Z")
> [@Recovering\_Republican](#): > > Well, because while the rest of the country was letting people buy houses with food stamps, Texas under Perry insisted you actually come up with a downpayment first. Wow. Imagine that. Cite please. What authority did Texas and/or its governor have any authority over mortgages? ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-recent-cycles-whats-the-latest-someones-entered-the-nomination-race-and-strongly-contended/588300/65 "2011-07-14T15:52:29Z")
> [@zamboniracer](#): > > Cite please. What authority did Texas and/or its governor have any authority over mortgages? You don’t believe that mortgage lending is regulated at the state level? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-recent-cycles-whats-the-latest-someones-entered-the-nomination-race-and-strongly-contended/588300/66 "2011-07-14T16:01:17Z")
> [@zamboniracer](#): > > Cite please. What authority did Texas and/or its governor have any authority over mortgages? Not my area of expertise, but [this article](http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/judgments/2010/03/30/lone-star-secret?page=full) says the housing bubble hurt Texas less because of policies predating Governor Perry. And predating Governor Sam Houston\*: > [@](#): > > Until 1998, Texans couldn’t take out home-equity loans at all. The roots of this fierce resistance to debt’s temptations go deep in Texas history. Seven years before the republic joined the union in 1845, a bank panic and resulting foreclosures lost many homesteaders their property. Drawing from Mexican codes protecting landholders—much beloved by flocks of U.S. debtors who had taken refuge from creditors by relocating to Texas homesteads—the new constitution of the state of Texas forbade lenders from peddling mortgages to homesteaders. - Houston wasn’t our first Governor, but nobody remembers [those other guys](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_Texas)… ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-recent-cycles-whats-the-latest-someones-entered-the-nomination-race-and-strongly-contended/588300/67 "2011-07-14T16:25:48Z")
> [@](#): > > Once again- Iraq war- afghanistan war- war on terror. All the same conflict. Oh, I thought you were only including the War on Terror when you said the War on Terror. But yeah, Saddam Hussein did have a lot to do with the war on terror: He managed to keep the terrorists out of Iraq while he was in power. But if you insist on counting Hussein himself as a terrorist, then wouldn’t that make it only two wars you’ve lived through? Or heck, let’s just call it one: The Global War on Bad Guys. That simplifies everything. ---
**Author:** ![Recovering\_Republican](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@Recovering\_Republican](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Recovering_Republican)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-recent-cycles-whats-the-latest-someones-entered-the-nomination-race-and-strongly-contended/588300/68 "2011-07-15T10:30:54Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Oh, I thought you were only including the War on Terror when you said the War on Terror. But yeah, Saddam Hussein did have a lot to do with the war on terror: He managed to keep the terrorists out of Iraq while he was in power. > > But if you insist on counting Hussein himself as a terrorist, then wouldn’t that make it only two wars you’ve lived through? Or heck, let’s just call it one: The Global War on Bad Guys. That simplifies everything. Saddam kept the Terrorists out of Iraq? Really? You mean like Abu Abbas, who masterminded the Achille Lauro Hijacking. He was living in Iraq when we invaded. Or al-Zarqawi, who went to Iraq after he fled Afghanistan. He later led Al Qaeda in Iraq until we cashed in his 72 Virgin policy for him. Let’s not forget, Saddam was paying the families of suicide bombers in Israel $25,000 to take care of their needs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-recent-cycles-whats-the-latest-someones-entered-the-nomination-race-and-strongly-contended/588300.md?page=3)