# In regards to "vanilla" **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [November 29, 2004, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112 "2004-11-29T06:41:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/1 "2004-11-29T06:41:33Z")
After some reading of the record, the decision of the staff is that vanilla will not be returning to the board. We wish her all the best, but feel it’s appropriate that her time here should end. She has been notified. Our normal policy has been not to reveal information on why long-standing members are banned, out of respect for their privacy. This policy is currently under review. In vanilla’s case, the history is already public. You may read this record for yourself, as it includes multiple major warnings, publicly posted at the time. (There were also other minor infractions, but of not as much consequence and omitted here for considerations of space and bandwidth.) Note that all three cases involved the same infraction: namely, confusing our Message Boards with real life and dragging private matters into the public boards. While we’re allowing you to see the record for yourself, please remember that this is ATMB. We ask you to moderate your language, this is not The Pit. Most of all, vanilla cannot come here to answer questions or argue any issues, so please refrain from engaging in such, and of course, personal attack or abusive comments are right out. (1) [Straight Dope Message Board - Taking Tolerance Too Far – Enabling?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=61114&page=2&pp=50) \>[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=61114&page=2&pp=50](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=61114&page=2&pp=50) (2) [Straight Dope Message Board - His4Ever, JerseyDiamond and Joe\_Cool are hypocrites.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2697558#post2697558) \>[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2697558#post2697558](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2697558#post2697558) (3) [Straight Dope Message Board - judgmental woman](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5537444&postcount=57) \>[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5537444&postcount=57](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5537444&postcount=57) your humble TubaDiva Administrator ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/2 "2004-11-29T07:15:59Z")
Hate to see old-timers go. ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/3 "2004-11-29T07:44:58Z")
Originally posted by **Ilsa\_Lund** > [@](#): > > - Hate to see old-timers go. \* So do I. I’m sorry **vanilla**. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/4 "2004-11-29T08:22:39Z")
Is there a particular reason the last link is a Post only? And not a link to the thread? ---
**Author:** ![Essured](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Essured](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Essured)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/5 "2004-11-29T08:26:49Z")
Thanks for the explanation, Tuba. And thanks to all the staff for discussing this and applying the rules fairly. Good call (IMO, of course). ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/6 "2004-11-29T12:56:34Z")
> [@Bear\_Nenno](#): > > Is there a particular reason the last link is a Post only? And not a link to the thread? It’s a large thread and I wanted to link directly to the last post. However, you can either click on the “Thread” hyperlink in the upper right hand corner (which will take you to the beginning of the thread) or go here: [Judgmental woman](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=288107) \>[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=288107](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=288107) your humble TubaDiva Administrator ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/7 "2004-11-29T14:16:20Z")
thanks. it is always sad to see a regular leave the boards this way. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/8 "2004-11-29T15:05:19Z")
Hate to see you go **Vanilla** , be well. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/9 "2004-11-29T17:20:51Z")
I’m sorry to see her go. She and I disagreed on just about everything, but I liked her. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/10 "2004-11-29T18:24:39Z")
I’m sorry it had to be this way. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/11 "2004-11-29T19:47:31Z")
I agree with **Guinastasia** sorry to lose **Vanilla** but the mods were explicit in their concerns, and reasonable in their action. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/12 "2004-11-29T20:14:15Z")
Good call, Admins. Haj ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/13 "2004-11-29T21:29:29Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > However, you can either click on the “Thread” hyperlink in the upper right hand corner (which will take you to the beginning of the thread) or go here: … Ohhh. So there’s an _easier_ way? I just changed the link from [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5537444&postcount=57](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5537444&postcount=57) to [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/show](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/show) **thread**.php?p=5537444 and it worked. Also, those other warnings go back a long time. Is there some kind of Naughty List that keeps track of all our fuck-ups on there? Is it a formal file? Informal? Is it stored on the board server or do individual moderators and such keep their own records of who they warned? Or do you just have a really good memory? ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/14 "2004-11-29T21:33:05Z")
Grrrr. _From_: \>[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5537444&postcount=57](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5537444&postcount=57) to \>[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/show](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/show) **thread**.php?p=5537444 ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/15 "2004-11-29T21:50:33Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Bear\_Nenno** _ > > Also, those other warnings go back a long time. Is there some kind of Naughty List that keeps track of all our fuck-ups on there? Is it a formal file? Informal? Is it stored on the board server or do individual moderators and such keep their own records of who they warned? Or do you just have a really good memory? Yes. **Cajun Man** for the SDMB ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/16 "2004-11-29T22:22:40Z")
For serious offenses and warnings, there’s no “statute of limitations.” For minor infractions, yeah, we wouldn’t drag up stuff from many years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2004, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/17 "2004-11-30T00:24:32Z")
I don’t really have a beef with vanilla or with her banning, but I just wanted to say I think it’s a smart idea to post threads like this when old-timers are banned. I’m glad to see the old policy is “under review.” There’s going to be speculation and questions when something like this happens. Let’s just get it all out in the open. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2004, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/18 "2004-11-30T05:28:05Z")
I’m glad **vanilla** and I made our peace before she left. Mostly I trust that good will come to her from all of this. **TubaDiva** , the explaination was helpful to me personally and it is appreciated. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![alterego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@alterego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alterego)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/19 "2004-12-01T04:04:59Z")
**TubaDiva** ’s comment in that first link literally made my figurative jaw hit the floor. :eek: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112/20 "2004-12-03T15:05:23Z")
Thanks for not keeping us in the dark, **TubaDiva**. Be well, **vanilla**. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-regards-to-vanilla/277112.md?page=2)