# In the 24th Century, Do They Know What an Omelet Is?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [November 13, 2020, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485 "2020-11-13T02:48:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/121 "2020-11-20T18:02:33Z")

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I just finished watching José Andrés make a Spanish omelet on TV. Damn, did it ever look good! 😋

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/122 "2020-11-20T23:13:42Z")

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I’ve heard that referred to as “The Riker maneuver.”

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/123 "2020-11-23T15:10:30Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> WAG-Everyone in Starfleet has had basic weapons training. Much like a mechanic in the Army can still fire a rifle.

The Army doesn’t stash weapons everywhere, though.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/124 "2020-11-23T15:11:36Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> The Army doesn’t stash weapons everywhere, though. -

Because their opponents don’t just materialize out of thin air anywhere they please.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/125 "2020-11-23T16:29:55Z")

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No enemy in their right mind is going to make capturing the galley/recreation area a priority, either.

I can imagine one pastry chef wasting another in a fight over who makes the better napoleons, though.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/126 "2020-11-23T16:37:13Z")

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Well, if Steven Seagal was the cook, and Gary Busey was acting as XO . . .

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/127 "2020-11-23T17:03:21Z")

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That’s about the proper level of absurdity for the rationale of stashing deadly weapons all over the ship for everyone to use.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/128 "2020-11-23T18:50:51Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> Well, if Steven Seagal was the cook, and Gary Busey was acting as XO . . .

_We’ve had this conversation before, about you oversalting the bouillabaisse. Time to settle this once and for all._

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/129 "2020-11-23T20:52:42Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> That’s about the proper level of absurdity for the rationale of stashing deadly weapons all over the ship for everyone to use.

No, it’s all well and good, and desirable, to place weapons all over the ship.

What does starfleet have that the modern US Navy does not? Two things:

1. Potentially hostile aliens that come on board without warning, at any time,
2. (theoretically) Competent, well-adjusted crew who aren’t going to shoot each other over the horrble omelet, or losing a chess game or a poker hand.

If anything, the episode history shows that they should carry phasers all the time.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/130 "2020-11-23T21:18:24Z")

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Don’t these starships have shields or other technology to prevent others from just beaming aboard the ship without permission?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/131 "2020-11-23T21:25:42Z")

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Yes, until that technology fails.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/132 "2020-11-23T21:48:03Z")

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Or the plot demands alien is more advanced.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/133 "2020-11-23T21:55:38Z")

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If Valeris had been shown using some biometric key to unlock the arms locker, that would be different. I’d fanwank it that the locker read her com badge signature within the required distance and unlocked the _normally secure_ phaser compartment.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/134 "2020-11-23T22:08:39Z")

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No combadges until the Next Generation. In the 23rd century, they still had to use the ship’s intercom or pull their communicators off their belts.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/135 "2020-11-23T23:23:17Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> **(theoretically) Competent, well-adjusted crew who aren’t going to shoot each other over the horrble omelet, or losing a chess game or a poker hand.**

You’d bet your life on this, eh?

🤣

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/136 "2020-11-23T23:36:38Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> If anything, the episode history shows that they should carry phasers all the time.

Yeah, like on the ISS _Enterprise_.

**HAIL THE TERRAN EMPIRE!** ✋

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/137 "2020-11-24T00:07:28Z")

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They don’t keep phasers in the galley to fend off intruders. They keep phasers in the galaxy because it makes clean up so easy. Set to wide area dispersal, minimum power, squeeze the trigger, and your countertops are instantly cleaned and sterilized. What else are you going to do? Rub a piece of damp fabric on them, like some sort of 20th century savage?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/138 "2020-11-24T01:45:34Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> You’d bet your life on this, eh?

With everyone but Worf.

“You touched your ROOK but did not MOVE it? You have no HONOR!”

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/139 "2020-11-24T03:01:36Z")

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… And everyone else in the 24th century is a PUSSY! 🐈

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2020, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-24th-century-do-they-know-what-an-omelet-is/925485/140 "2020-11-24T12:14:53Z")

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Except for all the villains-of-the-week who beat up Worf.

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