# In the bathroom, during Ramadan **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 28, 2023, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778 "2023-03-28T12:03:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Heracles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heracles/32/487_2.png) [@Heracles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heracles)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/1 "2023-03-28T12:03:36Z")
I’m not sure where to ask this, and I’m sure this will come across as insensitive to some people. One time, about 10 years ago, we were invited to dinner at a colleague’s apartment, during Ramadan. This colleague (call him S) and another guy were the only Muslims there. S’s girlfriend wasn’t Muslim but had been with him for a long time, had visited his family in Morocco, etc., so of course she had much better understanding of observances than we did. We didn’t have dinner until sunset, that was no surprise. But at one point, while we were chatting and the sun was still up, S mumbled something we didn’t quite catch (but the others did), went into the bathroom with an empty drinking glass, closed the door and stayed there for a several minutes. Then he came back out with the empty glass. Did he drink water when he wasn’t supposed to? If so, what was the point of doing it in the bathroom with the door closed, if it was so obvious that even we noticed it? Or is there some other aspect we didn’t get? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/2 "2023-03-28T12:05:00Z")
Why don’t you ask him? ---
**Author:** ![Heracles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heracles/32/487_2.png) [@Heracles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heracles)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/3 "2023-03-28T12:06:50Z")
It didn’t seem polite/appropriate to ask when it happened. We lost touch with S after my hubby changed jobs a year later. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/4 "2023-03-28T12:40:28Z")
Maybe he peed in the glass? There could be medical reasons for doing so. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/5 "2023-03-28T15:23:15Z")
Maybe he had medicine that he needed to take with water, and needed to take at that time. I’m certainly not an expert on Ramadan rules; but that might well be considered a legitimate exception. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/6 "2023-03-28T15:28:20Z")
There were two Muslims at the dinner. If it was still pre-sunset, it would be very offensive to imbibe anything in front of another believer. If it was dark, then I got nuthin’. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/7 "2023-03-28T15:35:13Z")
My guess (grew up in a very Muslim-heavy region of Michigan, but am by no means an expert in Islamic traditions and customs) is that he needed water as a medical necessity (for taking medicine, for instance), but as Chefguy noted, didn’t want to do it in front of others. ---
**Author:** ![Moonrise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moonrise/32/14764_2.png) [@Moonrise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonrise)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/8 "2023-03-28T16:33:14Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Maybe he had medicine that he needed to take with water, and needed to take at that time. I’m certainly not an expert on Ramadan rules; but that might well be considered a legitimate exception. Life-saving medicines are allowed. “Comfort” medicines are usually not allowed, but there’s often some leeway. A bit of a long shot, but did he pray soon after emerging from the bathroom ? If yes, he may have performed ritual ablutions although I imagine the apartment had running water, making the use of a glass unnecessary. ---
**Author:** ![Heracles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heracles/32/487_2.png) [@Heracles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heracles)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/9 "2023-03-28T17:15:04Z")
There was no prayer that I saw, and yes the bathroom was an ordinary Montréal bathroom in a nice apartment, running water and all. I think the medication / not consuming water in front of others explanation is the likeliest. Thanks all! ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/10 "2023-03-28T17:28:11Z")
Depending on how you were raised, you learned to clean your parts, after peeing and defecating, with water instead of toilet paper. Many of those raised that way prefer it, and so the glass is filled with warm water from the tap and then the water is poured over the part that needs cleaning. Think of it as similar to a bidet. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/11 "2023-03-28T17:31:58Z")
This is what i did during Yom Kippur, when i was pregnant or nursing (ate or drank enough for safety, out of sight of other Jews.) But i would have guessed he was making ritual ablutions. Except the other Muslim didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Moonrise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moonrise/32/14764_2.png) [@Moonrise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonrise)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/12 "2023-03-28T17:47:26Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Except the other Muslim didn’t. Perhaps he didn’t need to, i.e. he hadn’t done anything that made him ritually unclean. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/13 "2023-03-28T18:17:54Z")
But wouldn’t people who do that likely keep a glass in the bathroom for that purpose? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/14 "2023-03-28T18:31:32Z")
> [@Moonrise](#): > > Perhaps he didn’t need to, i.e. he hadn’t done anything that made him ritually unclean. Not all Muslims are strict about Ramadan or other observances, just like all Jews aren’t kosher nor go along with extreme observance like Hasidics do. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/15 "2023-03-28T19:00:58Z")
At one time I had both a Muslim and a Morman drinking buddies. They informed me that some people had more religion than others. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/16 "2023-03-28T22:51:05Z")
Maybe he was only doing it because there was another Muslim there. Who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/17 "2023-03-28T22:58:39Z")
As Og is my witness, I thought the title was a _Star Trek Next Generation_ reference. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/18 "2023-03-28T23:08:18Z")
My thought was a lota, but it was in his own home. > **[Secrets of the Muslim bathroom](https://www.salon.com/2012/07/10/secrets_of_the_muslim_bathroom/)** > > The lota has torn apart relationships and embarrassed first-generation kids like me. So what is it? Let me explain ---
**Author:** ![Heracles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heracles/32/487_2.png) [@Heracles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heracles)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-bathroom-during-ramadan/981778/19 "2023-03-28T23:22:04Z")
…at Tanagra! Just after I finished writing the title, I thought of Col. Mustard, in the library, with the candlestick.