# In the cheers series finale didn't it close or get torn down or something? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 31, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376 "2023-08-31T00:22:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/21 "2023-09-01T11:17:10Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I believe she got started as a dancer on Benny Hill’s show I’ll always remember her as Blue on _Throb_. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/m_m5scYevvI/hqdefault.jpg "Throb - 1986 - [TV Theme Intro]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_m5scYevvI) ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/22 "2023-09-01T12:05:37Z")
[Trevor Einhorn](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0251851/?ref_=tt_cl_t_10), who played Frazier & Lilith’s son, was also one of the cast of _The Magicians_. I was hoping they’d include him in the reboot, but there’s no indication of it. ---
**Author:** ![veryfrank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@veryfrank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/veryfrank)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/23 "2023-09-01T12:30:25Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > > [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > > > I just learned that Jane (Daphne Moon) Leeves is 62 years old. > > I believe she got started as a dancer on Benny Hill’s show, so she’s been in television since the '80s at least. YouTube has clips of her turning Benny on while stripping half-naked. She was also one of the dancers in the final musical number (“Christmas in Heaven”) in _Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life_, back in 1983. So she’s been around a while (and, IMHO, a total knockout the whole time). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/24 "2023-09-01T13:56:30Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > [Trevor Einhorn](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0251851/?ref_=tt_cl_t_10), who played Frazier & Lilith’s son, was also one of the cast of _The Magicians_. I was hoping they’d include him in the reboot, but there’s no indication of it. He was great on Magicians. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/25 "2023-09-01T14:40:54Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Norm’s never-seen wife Vera was seen briefly in the Thanksgiving episode with the food fight. Unfortunately, her face was covered with pumpkin pie. ---
**Author:** ![Author\_Balk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Author\_Balk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Author_Balk)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/26 "2023-09-02T13:49:51Z")
On Jane Leeves. She had 11 years on Frasier, six years on Hot in Cleveland and two years on Throb (which I didn’t know about). That makes 19 years in the main cast of a TV show. I would consider that as top tier. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/27 "2023-09-02T14:01:57Z")
More recently, she was on The Resident (a medical drama on Fox) for five years. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/28 "2023-09-02T16:56:36Z")
She made a good virgin on _ **Seinfeld** _, too. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/29 "2023-09-02T20:58:38Z")
Jane Leeves also had a recurring role on _Murphy Brown_ for awhile, which is where I remember first noticing her. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/30 "2023-09-02T21:38:23Z")
She played a silent, but important, role in TO LIVE OR DIE IN L.A. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/31 "2023-09-05T18:23:16Z")
> [@MrAtoz](#): > > Jane Leeves also had a recurring role on _Murphy Brown_ for awhile, which is where I remember first noticing her. She played Miles’s girlfriend, before they went in the “let’s pair Miles up with Corky” direction. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/32 "2024-10-24T13:19:25Z")
This may also be of interest to _Cheers_ fans: > **[Ted Danson apologizes to Kelsey Grammer for decades-old argument during...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/entertainment/ted-danson-kelsey-grammer-cheers-apology/index.html)** > > Ted Danson is showing that it’s never too late to say “I’m sorry.” ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/33 "2024-10-24T14:09:33Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > This may also be of interest to _Cheers_ fans: > > [https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/entertainment/ted-danson-kelsey-grammer-cheers-apology/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/entertainment/ted-danson-kelsey-grammer-cheers-apology/index.html) I was glad to see this. I also saw a later-in-life quote from Coolio where he acknowledged he was wrong with his statements about Weird Al and the Amish Paradise song. Some people do learn. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/34 "2024-10-24T14:10:17Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > This may also be of interest to _Cheers_ fans: > > [https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/entertainment/ted-danson-kelsey-grammer-cheers-apology/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/entertainment/ted-danson-kelsey-grammer-cheers-apology/index.html) I’m so curious what the heck caused the grudge between them. Both have good enough reputations on sets that they keep getting work. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/35 "2024-10-24T18:11:31Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > She played Miles’s girlfriend, before they went in the “let’s pair Miles up with Corky” direction. Leaves had to be written out, though, when she was cast in **Frasier**. It was very abrupt. The episode started with Miles coming in distraught, because he had just woken up and Audrey was gone, along with all her stuff. And what was he going to do with these two tickets to see the then-called Redskins play at home? The remainder of the episode was about the tickets being passed around, and bad things happening to everyone who accepted them. I guess that was a smooth way to handle it: no drama, no dragging it out, just Audrey booking out, back to England or wherever. As for Miles + Corky, Diane English was no longer the show runner by the time that happened. She did not approve, and it was not acknowledged in the revival series. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/36 "2024-10-24T18:22:24Z")
A reunion episode would be perfect now. Sam finally accepts it’s time to retire. We see Norm, Cliff and Carla one last time. They live in different states and flew in to see Sam. It’s clear they won’t visit Boston again. Sam turns the keys over to the construction crew for remodeling. A sign on the wall says reopening in 2025. The reboot can start fresh with a new set and cast. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/37 "2024-10-24T19:31:15Z")
What reboot? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/38 "2024-10-24T19:32:42Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I coulda swore I heard the reboot was going to be set in Chicago. 🤔 > > ETA: I feel like going back to Boston is a mistake. It means viewers will just be focused on getting references and cameos from _Cheers_, and it’ll be harder to make it its own show, like the original _Frasier_ was I was responding to Happy\_Lendervedder ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/39 "2024-10-24T19:51:00Z")
@Happy_Lendervedder was referring to the reboot of Frasier. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376/40 "2024-10-24T20:47:39Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’m so curious what the heck caused the grudge between them. Both have good enough reputations on sets that they keep getting work. I know that Shelley Long resented Grammer for a long time, because she thought the producers were going to use her relationship with Frasier to write her out of the the show (this was before she decided to leave on her own.) I wonder if Danson had the idea they might have used a Sam/Diane breakup to end the show, or whether he just thought Frasier was a character who was unnecessary after Shelley Long left on her own. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-cheers-series-finale-didnt-it-close-or-get-torn-down-or-something/989376.md?page=3)