Well, there you go – call it Socrates Day. And then rename the city Atlantis.
Perhaps the best idea of all is to stop cooking up ways to pit people against each other, ala cultural appropriate, white privilege, Confederacy symbols and disappearing names and people from history. All this does nothing but foster hate and resentment for people on both sides.
Nobody is suggesting this. History is still there, nothing has been disappeared. Removing memorials & renaming places and things that honor people who were total asshats is recognize that they were total asshats.
Do you think the statues of Saddam Hussein, Lenin, & Joe Paterno should be restored?
History is about the good, the bad & the ugly. We shouldn’t honor the ugly, nor whitewash it.
This ^^ X1000
I called Columbus my home for maybe 35 years of my life. 1 year I lived on San Salvador (aka Watling’s Island) where there are 3 monuments in 3 different locations stating this is the site where Chris first set foot on the New World.
For this name change to get any traction at all, there would have to be a huge influx of Native Americans into the city, county, and state. I just don’t see it happening. And if it came to a citywide vote in November, there’d be a huge group who’d vote to change the name of Columbus to “Fuck Michigan”. And that isn’t 100% a joke.
Oh you do NOT want to go there. Trust me on that. (Unless, of course, you did that on purpose)
No, they were the only statues I could think of off the top of my head, without digging thru Wikipedia.
Well, then just let it go. Trust me, it will only end in a 100+ page Pit thread.
In the future, I don’t see any reason to ever go to Columbus again. They could call it Brutuston Buckeyeville for all I care.
People can do whatever they want. Names do change… but for some reason, changing the name of a prominent place (a large city, a major street, etc.) is a major disruption. Didn’t work so well for Leningrad or Stalingrad, or Cape Kennedy… Constantinople didn’t get the works until the twilight of the Ottoman empire, centuries after Byzantium sank into the dusk and almost two millennia after Constantine.
Noisy people with an axe to grind or dictators tend to impose change that has trouble outlasting them. Changes like Burkina Faso or Mumbai or Myanmar work because the vast majority of the locals prefer to not have a foreign name imposed. I don’t see that resentment as a factor in place names like Columbus Ohio or Washington DC. Most of the current agitation for Amerigo-land name changes is a small group of disturbers with little constructive to add.
There’s the story that when Canada split the Northwest Territories into the Inuit dominated Nunavut and the rest, the leftover was going to have a contest/referendum to pick a new name for the Northwest Territories. they abandoned the idea when polls showed the trending favourite was “Bob”.
I await the disputes arising when the first settlers on the Moon or Mars begin to question why they should accept name imposed by earthly astronomers decades and centuries ago. Mare Tranquilis? What’s this Latin crap, and what did they expect on a baked vaccum? Crashing waves and loud noises?
I guess I misunderstood the question. My answer was why would you fly to the capitol of Ohio when you can take the HyperLoop there instead?
Unless you are a government employee, Columbus Day is not a holiday, it is a day off for government employee’s. Removing this bogus celebration from the federal employee time off calendar will almost save enough taxpayer money to pay for the golf cart fees that Trump chareges the Secret Service for.
Or Karl Marx Stadt (Chemnitz). Ho Chi Minh City is still there, though.
The Turks were not native to the Ottoman Empire, so they just took over the already existing names. However many of those names had already been watered down by centuries of use and then some got modified because of Turkish pronunciation rules. For example, Smyrna became Izmir because Turkish doesn’t have words that begin with a consonant cluster starting with S. Constantinople had already been watered down to something like “Stanbul” before they took it over, but then got modified by the aforementioned rule. The name change in the 20th century just acknowledged the actual pronunciation they’d been using for centuries.
My understanding is that a lot of people in Mumbai prefer the old name. It’s just one (or maybe two) ethnic groups that wanted the name change. I’m not sure if they’re a majority in that city or just a plurality. At any rate, there was no city there before the British built it, so Mumbai is not historically accurate or anything.
No, the USPS will never go for it as they don’t like two towns with the same name in the same state…& they already have a “Cleveland”.
Upvoting your own posts? :o
Didn’t know that used to be the name. I sort of prefer the former because in the Europe version of Ticket To Ride it’s difficult to not say “Chemnutz”.
Maybe we should try something more subtle - change “Columbus” to “Colobus”. Because who doesn’t like monkeys?
Eh? The city was named specifically after him, and there’s a giant statue downtown. I would say most people who live here know it was named after him, and most people who don’t live here probably make the assumption based on there being no other prominent Columbuses it could be named after.
To the OP, I could totally see the city being renamed at some point, but they political climate isn’t ripe for it right now. If they did rename it, something inane like “Capital City” would be probably be high up on the list.
Maybe they just really like Home Alone?
This is debatable. But it has nothing to do with my criticism of your prior post. So I can’t figure out why it’s written like a response.
Who said anything about “imposing” change?
And after your paean to honoring history—an argument packed top to bottom with sanctimonious and nostalgic horse hockey—it’s pretty rich for you to dismiss the other side as “noisy people with an axe to grind.” After all, the world is full of monuments to people, pretty must all of whom could be summed up as “noisy people with an axe to grind.”
Personally, I don’t know anyone agitating for “Amerigo-land name changes,” and I certainly have know idea, to the extent that they exist, whether any of them have anything constructive to add (to something). I doubt very much that you do either.
This paragraph is in the form of satire, I guess, but has none of its substance. I see no moral, ethical, educational, or any other substantial value in either keeping or or changing names of features of the moon.
It would be only a temporary nuisance to rename the place after a prominent local Native American. Tecumseh would be the obvious choice, but Leatherlipshas an attractiveness of its own.
It only fosters hate on one side… the outside of a library, in which the actual history is safely stored for anybody who cares enough to read about it.