# In the history of the SDMB has anyone ever been wrong about more things than adaher? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 31, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639 "2013-08-31T04:55:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/461 "2013-11-07T02:45:55Z")
True, those are frauds, chimeras and hallucinations. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/462 "2013-11-07T02:54:33Z")
The young will sign up any minute, I’m sure, just as soon as they get that website working. They are eager to serve their country by subsidizing other people. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/463 "2013-11-07T03:03:06Z")
Well at least you were named an SDMB milestone. Other than that I hardly see any pitting issue. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/464 "2013-11-07T03:17:45Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > The young will sign up any minute, I’m sure, just as soon as they get that website working. They are eager to serve their country by subsidizing other people. Which young are you talking about? Wait a tick, I just realized I don’t care. You’re an idiot who will spout with sincerity any stupid thing he heard from some dumbass right wing source. I can predict pretty well what you’ll say on any topic, and 97% of the time you’ll be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/465 "2013-11-07T10:15:51Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Then why did the anti-ACA candidates win a majority? And if you look at the exit polls, the GOP won the 18-24 age group. That’s got to be a big red flag for Democrats. > > McCauliffe’s support among the youngest was the lowest of any age group, a dismal 39%. Hat tip to Marley for the link: > > [http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/11/05/va.gov.exit.polls.1120p.110513.v2.final[1].copy.pdf](http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/11/05/va.gov.exit.polls.1120p.110513.v2.final%5B1%5D.copy.pdf) You’re obsessed with finding big red flags for the Democrats. Nothing in this race is a big red flag. Cooch got even more “dismal” numbers for the 25-39 crowd. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/466 "2013-11-07T10:45:30Z")
Then you’re delusional. The race was a gimme and it turned into a nailbiter, and it did so because of ACA. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/467 "2013-11-07T10:53:19Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Then you’re delusional. The race was a gimme and it turned into a nailbiter, and it did so because of ACA. Or McAuliffe’s entirely unnecessary gun control remarks shortly before the election. And while closer than earlier it wasn’t a nailbiter. You simply want it to be about ACA and/or Obama and refuse to accept any other explanation, which is exactly the same problem you have with everything else: you write your narrative first and then interpret events and exclude conflicting information in order to fit the conclusion you’ve already drawn. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/468 "2013-11-07T10:58:39Z")
Well, it’s not like I’m alone in drawing it. And since ACA is what’s dragging the President down it’s not unreasonable to assume that ACA is dragging the party he leads down as well. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/469 "2013-11-07T11:11:08Z")
The VA race had nothing to do with the ACA. The exit polling and other polls show this. You are wrong, ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/470 "2013-11-07T11:44:13Z")
The sad thing is that **adaher** is probably right about Obama’s misrepresentations about people being able to keep their old insurance policies under ACA but he’s so determined to extrapolate that into 1) “If I’m right about one thing, I must have been right about everything else too!” and 2) “If Obama lied about this, he’s probably lying about everything else too!” that the one brief shining candle flame of rightness is getting immediately quenched by a metric ton of wrongness slurry being dumped on top of it. Take the win and cherish it, man. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/471 "2013-11-07T13:18:41Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I am a little confused. Are you arguing that the result of the race in NJ means nothing, but the result in Virginia means something? It’s very simple: No matter what happens, in **adaher** land it is bad news for Democrats. Republicans win a race? Bad news for Democrats Democrats win a race? Bad news for Democrats Three-headed calf born in a village in India? Bad news for Democrats It’s a system that avoids wasting time on thinking and lets **adaher** concentrate on the stuff he’s good at, like spewing. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/472 "2013-11-07T13:37:44Z")
While I am well aware of the ineptitude, inaccuracy and ignorance of **adaher** , has it actually been established that he has set the gold standard for such on the SDMB? Surely there have been others in the past who have evinced such remarkable behavioral characteristics. Are there other candidates that the old-timers here might present for competition for this vaunted title? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/473 "2013-11-07T16:19:46Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > While I am well aware of the ineptitude, inaccuracy and ignorance of **adaher** , has it actually been established that he has set the gold standard for such on the SDMB? Surely there have been others in the past who have evinced such remarkable behavioral characteristics. > > Are there other candidates that the old-timers here might present for competition for this vaunted title? That’s like asking if there was ever a pitcher-turned-outfielder who was better than Babe Ruth. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/474 "2013-11-07T16:43:47Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The sad thing is that **adaher** is probably right about Obama’s misrepresentations about people being able to keep their old insurance policies under ACA but he’s so determined to extrapolate that into 1) “If I’m right about one thing, I must have been right about everything else too!” and 2) “If Obama lied about this, he’s probably lying about everything else too!” that the one brief shining candle flame of rightness is getting immediately quenched by a metric ton of wrongness slurry being dumped on top of it. > > Take the win and cherish it, man. My favorite is how this supports an assertion that “the public” has been a good judge of the potential concerns of the ACA. Thus, “the public’s” concerns that the ACA will increase the debt are more valid than the CBOs actual calculations. It is a treat to see a mind of this particular caliber at work. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/475 "2013-11-07T16:44:06Z")
Well, there was **Susanann** , but she was also batshit crazy. At least Adaher isn’t posting that Isaac Asimov stole his ideas. ---
**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/476 "2013-11-07T17:41:27Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Well, there was **Susanann** , but she was also batshit crazy. At least Adaher isn’t posting that Isaac Asimov stole his ideas. Has anyone asked him? ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/477 "2013-11-07T17:50:36Z")
> [@Randolph](#): > > Not only has he not left, not only is he not slowing down, he’s actually stepping on the accelerator in terms of posting frequency. Wrongness is still about the same - constant and consistent and complete. So, Adaher, why _are_ you still here? When there are “better places”, according to you? Doesn’t that make your ongoing participation in this inferior board a Meta-Fail? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/478 "2013-11-08T17:23:08Z")
A stunned SDMB realized today that adaher had got [the whole _60 Minutes_ story about Benghazi thing wrong](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=706196), and not in small part because [his source got it wrong](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TV_CBS_BENGHAZI?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-11-08-11-04-06). ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/479 "2013-11-08T17:49:12Z")
It really is pretty remarkable how you can set your watch by **adaher** being wrong.\* [The other day in Elections I saw him say something about the economy of California](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16822810#post16822810) - a subject I know almost nothing about - and immediately I thought “I am going to Google that and it’ll turn out he’s full of shit.” [And I did and he was.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16822803#post16822803) He gets some bonus points this time because after I corrected him, [he went back and edited his post to try to make a much more limited claim.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16822810#post16822810) \*Your watch will be wrong all the time, but it’ll be Obama’s fault. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/480 "2013-11-08T18:01:18Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Then you’re delusional. The race was a gimme and it turned into a nailbiter, and it did so because of ACA. ``` I love the cognitive dissonance here. Virginia is, at best, a purple state, so the only reason the race would be a "gimme" is if Cooch was a dismal candidate. And Cuccinelli is not overtly lacking in charisma -- his flaws all arise from his extremist conservative views. So Adaher, who is heavily invested in believing that Democrats suck, is forced to admit that his side sucks even more in order to turn Cuccinelli's defeat into a Pyrrhic victory. ``` Note that Adaher has raised “Us vs. Them” to such an art form that I can’t ever quite tell what he believes about any of the causes he fights so valiantly for or against. I think he’s against ACA, for example, but that may only be because Obama is for it. At least some of the conservatives on this board have (loathsome) points of view that they’re willing to defend – Adaher’s approach seem more “Hey, guys, have you seen this bit of news? Your side is losers!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639.md?page=25)