# In the history of the SDMB has anyone ever been wrong about more things than adaher?

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**Created:** [August 31, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639 "2013-08-31T04:55:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/501 "2015-02-12T03:24:52Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Don’t you really mean that it’s unreadable when people post things that you don’t agree with?

Speaking of reading, did you read this 500+ post thread? Because your stupid comment here tells me that you didn’t.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/502 "2015-02-12T03:26:51Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Thank you for an excellent example of Trolling.

Go fuck a cactus, buddy.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/503 "2015-02-12T07:28:35Z")

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I’d say D’Anconia gives adaher a run for his money [on this page](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=747843&page=3) when he implies another poster is providing false information and -get this- _repeatedly misquotes him_ despite multiple corrections.

The problem is D’Anconia lacks the volume and posting speed of adaher. (Also the sense of humor, willingness to admit error and even self knowledge, amazingly). So adaher remains the reigning champ. Obliviousness is simply no substitute for primordial wrongness.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/504 "2015-02-12T10:59:36Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Don’t you really mean that it’s unreadable when people post things that you don’t agree with?

See Post #493.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/505 "2015-02-12T12:13:23Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Adaher is responsible for somewhere between 15 and 20 percent of _all current posts_ in the Elections forum. Has anyone in the history of this board ever shitted up a single forum so completely before?

It isn’t so much the volume, it’s that the bulk of them are some variation of “hai guyz, Obama sux right? Democrats are big losers amirite? Hehehehe” while he plays pocket pool.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/506 "2015-02-12T12:33:12Z")

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**adaher** ’s biggest problem is massive, overwhelming laziness. He just refuses to actually expend any effort to verify if his assumptions and assertions are accurate. When called on it, he ignores it or sidesteps – he doesn’t even have the energy or desire to find out if the refutation is accurate.

He loves to post and hates to verify. Possibly the laziest poster on the Dope.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/507 "2015-02-12T13:22:24Z")

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I’m one of those who regularly chide him for parroting Sean Hannity. But maybe that’s giving him too much credit - I sometimes wonder if he actually gets his talking points from Mallard Fillmore.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/508 "2015-02-12T14:48:25Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> **adaher** ’s biggest problem is massive, overwhelming laziness. He just refuses to actually expend any effort to verify if his assumptions and assertions are accurate. When called on it, he ignores it or sidesteps – he doesn’t even have the energy or desire to find out if the refutation is accurate.
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> He loves to post and hates to verify. Possibly the laziest poster on the Dope.

I totally agree. I actually think he’s quite a smart person: he’s well informed, he draws insightful connections between issues… but he never, ever backs anything up due to his laziness, and continually fails to carry out any critical analysis of conservative dogma. The best two examples of this have been his insistance that the polls were skewed and Romney was poised for a huge win, and his continual refrain that Republicans are on the verge of stealing huge swaths of Democratic support, such as women, young people, Hispanics, African Americans, union members, hippies, college professors, environmentalists, social liberals, Green Party members, poor people, and pot smokers.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/509 "2015-02-12T14:52:21Z")

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I dunno. I think he’s improved a lot since the “skewed poll” days. On balance, I think he adds something to the boards now.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/510 "2015-02-12T15:00:27Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I dunno. I think he’s improved a lot since the “skewed poll” days. On balance, I think he adds something to the boards now.

Even with my criticism, I don’t hate the guy, and I don’t want him to leave the board. I just want him to do better – I don’t think it would take much effort for him to actually verify his claims before posting them.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/511 "2015-02-12T16:27:47Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> **adaher** ’s biggest problem is massive, overwhelming laziness. He just refuses to actually expend any effort to verify if his assumptions and assertions are accurate. When called on it, he ignores it or sidesteps – he doesn’t even have the energy or desire to find out if the refutation is accurate.
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> He loves to post and hates to verify.

Elsewhere, I’ve encountered an Alex Jones-wannabe conspiracy crackpot who’d repost the latest Infowars outrage du jour without bothering to check its accuracy and go off into some conspiracist tangent when the repost invariably proves to be inaccurate.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/512 "2015-02-13T01:33:02Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I dunno. I think he’s improved a lot since the “skewed poll” days. On balance, I think he adds something to the boards now.

Yes. A considerable amount of density.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/513 "2015-02-13T01:41:52Z")

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He has a cognitive event horizon, intelligent light falls upon him but none ever escapes.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/514 "2015-02-13T15:00:14Z")

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I can just see his teachers telling his parents “He could achieve _so_ much if he’d only _apply_ himself.”

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/515 "2015-02-13T17:06:57Z")

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He already threadshit a perfectly good thread I started by being critical of pollsters. As I mentioned in the thread, President Romney remembers how much he knew about pollsters.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/516 "2015-04-22T13:00:37Z")

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[More “concerns”…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=755074)

I mean, without him and **ITR Champion** to constantly remind us of our true priorities, we’d undoubtedly be a bunch of lost and bereft souls.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/517 "2015-04-22T15:42:05Z")

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Hey! He’s just asking questions!

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/518 "2015-04-23T02:38:38Z")

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Stupid thing to complain about, since the thread is interesting and I haven’t said a single controversial thing in it. Some people will bitch about anything.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/519 "2015-04-23T15:39:49Z")

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Has the prevalence of undeserved bitching in this country increased since Obama took office? Mind you, I’m just asking.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-history-of-the-sdmb-has-anyone-ever-been-wrong-about-more-things-than-adaher/667639/520 "2015-04-23T16:05:58Z")

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Has fundamental dishonesty increased in our nation as a result of Obama, or was it already in place and _caused_ the election of Obama? Are the Democrats directly causative of our moral decline, or are they simply taking advantage of it? Will we ever again have a President who reflects the candor, honesty and moral rectumtude of St. Ronnie of Bakersfield?

These are the burning questions! OK, maybe not “burning”, maybe just smoldering. Warmed over.

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