# In the name of fuck website designers, WTF is wrong with you? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 9, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687 "2022-07-09T22:43:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/1 "2022-07-09T22:43:41Z")
Why the fuck do web pages have to be counterintuitive about these two basic things? If I go to a business’s website (for a local place) what do I ultimately want and need to know? That’s right - where you are and when you’re open. It’s not fucking rocket science, so stop hiding that stuff in “Home”, “About” or “Contact Us”. How about a front page that shows, up front, your address and business hours? FFS, why do they bury this, the basic yet critical stuff in some clever and less than obvious location? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/2 "2022-07-10T00:56:09Z")
I have always wondered about this too. Especially with a regular business, not an obscure consultant or something. What Is Your Address So I Can Come Give You Money? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/3 "2022-07-10T01:02:02Z")
Sometimes it’s easiest to scroll to the bottom and find the facebook button. Addresses are usually in a pretty standard location on facebook business pages. I assume it’s the same on other social media sites as well. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/4 "2022-07-10T01:03:43Z")
Exactly! I have to go through this stupid exercise for any - any! - business, regardless of how “normal”/common or obscure or “indie” it is. It’s a local bike shop that got this rant going. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/5 "2022-07-10T01:04:54Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > where you are and when you’re open. I usually just use Google for that. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/6 "2022-07-10T01:08:00Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > I usually just use Google for that Yes, but you still should check the website just in case their hours or circumstances have changed pandemically. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/7 "2022-07-10T01:09:27Z")
Google has actually been pretty good about updating business hours when they change. At least around here, anyway (southeastern PA). ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/8 "2022-07-10T01:09:54Z")
Style over substance, usability, seems to be taking over a lot of websites. As well as the OP peeve, I get really pissed off at big box hardware sites such as Home Depot, that have pathetic search systems. A thousand of a certain type of item. But no decent way to narrow it down by sizes or other important things. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/9 "2022-07-10T01:13:54Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > facebook The thing is, not everyone (well not me anyway) has Facebook. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/10 "2022-07-10T01:20:12Z")
I guess this thread isn’t about porn websites? The title threw me. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/11 "2022-07-10T01:22:49Z")
Huh. For some reason I thought you were on the other side of the state from me, but no, you’re (maybe) nearby. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/12 "2022-07-10T01:35:12Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > That’s right - where you are and when you’re open. It’s not fucking rocket science, so stop hiding that stuff in “Home”, “About” or “Contact Us”. How about a front page that shows, up front, your address and business hours? Not to fuck up a decent rant, but your maps app is the place to go for that info. Right there, front and center. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/13 "2022-07-10T02:00:55Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > The thing is, not everyone (well not me anyway) has Facebook. Pretty sure you don’t need to have an account just to see a business page, though. I completely agree about the contact info though – I hate having to hunt to find a phone number or email contact on something that’s supposed to be a business site. I was on a commercial site the other day where mousing anywhere in the upper third of my browser window would trigger a half-screen drop-down banner that covered everything I was looking at and would take a good five seconds to ‘close’ each time. Was super obnoxious. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/14 "2022-07-10T02:15:03Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Huh. For some reason I thought you were on the other side of the state from me, but no, you’re (maybe) nearby. I’m between Gettysburg and York. If I say southern PA people think I’m from somewhere around Breezewood and if I say southeastern they think Philadelphia. I guess I should just say somewhere near Gettysburg. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/15 "2022-07-10T02:19:18Z")
Maps apps frequently don’t have correct business hours. I’ve encountered that a few times. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/16 "2022-07-10T02:26:16Z")
Preach. Hell, even some public offices fall into this trap. Y’all remember the information you have posted on your front door? Put that in your front page. > [@Jophiel](#): > > > [@velomont](#): > > > > The thing is, not everyone (well not me anyway) has Facebook. > > Pretty sure you don’t need to have an account just to see a business page, though. I try not to count on that. Run into a few places where the last time they updated their hours was back when they went in lockdown. Annoyingly, every so often the link is only to a mobile-app-optimized page that has _not_ been version-updated, so it displays quite fecal on a desktop screen. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/17 "2022-07-10T02:30:01Z")
How about letting me look at a menu? No, I don’t want to order online or create an account or look at a list of descriptions with no price in it, nor do I want to individually click on pictures of each item in order to find out what’s in it. Just show me the same thing you show people in the restaurant so I can decide whether there’s something I like and if I can afford it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/18 "2022-07-10T02:32:12Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > How about a front page that shows, up front, your address and business hours? Fully agree. And I would add the business’s phone number as a third item. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/19 "2022-07-10T02:54:51Z")
I can see the Limerick power station from my bedroom window. 🙂 Breezewood was always the canonical meetup point for Southerners headed towards Pennsic. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687/20 "2022-07-10T03:03:08Z")
I have been paid to design two websites in my lifetime. I made sure the first thing a visitor to the site sees is “Who are we, what do we do, and where and when can they find us.” ETA: I included phone number and business email addresses as part of the overall address block. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-fuck-website-designers-wtf-is-wrong-with-you/967687.md?page=2)