# In the name of the lord!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 24, 2000, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144 "2000-10-24T18:04:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/21 "2000-10-25T05:43:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > \*\* > Posting the ten commandments in school isn’t something I’d associate purely with one branch of Christianity. \*\* Who’s doing that? Last time I checked Fundie wasn’t a denomination of Christianity, rather a catch-all term referring to over zealous Christians. ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/22 "2000-10-25T06:49:02Z")
That’s a fuinny thought though. “I used to be Southern Baptist, but they weren’t boycotting enough unwholsome groups for my taste. So I changed my church and I am much happier as a part of the congregation at the First Fundie Church of Christ downtown…” 😃 * * * Yer pal, [Satan](http://www.members.tripod.com/jmspoofe/sdmb/satan.jpg) \*TIME ELAPSED SINCE I QUIT SMOKING: Six months, two weeks, two days, 4 hours, 45 minutes and 40 seconds. 7967 cigarettes not smoked, saving $995.99. Extra time with Drain Bead: 3 weeks, 6 days, 15 hours, 55 minutes. **I slept with a REPUBLICAN moderator!** \* ---
**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/23 "2000-10-25T07:07:28Z")
Well, read the article over again: where does it say the father was Christian? It is possible, but unlikely, that he could have been a member of one of the fringe Jewish sects, or Mormon (it is argued by some that Mormons, altho they certainly revere JC, are not a “Christian” sect, just like no-body calls Muslems Christian- even tho they accept Him as a Teacher). Tell, me, when you read about “gang-bangers”, do you always assume they are minorities? Does the word “stereotype” mean anything to you? How about “bigot”? I would not call this “man” a “jeezoid” or even a 'fundie", he might be neither. He is a “loonie”. Now, as to the term “jeezoid”- it is a pejoritive, bigoted term. You say you use it only to refer to the “bad elements”- but that does not make it OK. If you used the term “nigger”, to refer only to gang-bangers- would that be OK? No. If you used the term “kike” to refer to the radical, fringe, racist zionists in Isreal- would that be OK? No. If you used the term “faggot” to refer to the radical Gay “act-up” group, would that be OK? No. Only folks who are bigots or are ignorant use such words as pejoritives. Which are you? ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/24 "2000-10-25T07:28:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Well, read the article over again: where does it say the father was Christian? It’s implied here: > [@](#): > > …said he was following biblical teachings to protect himself. And here… > [@](#): > > Davis, who calls himself Rajohn Lord and claims to be an ordained minister And here… > [@](#): > > “Proverbs tells you to discipline your children, or else they will grow up and kill their parents,” Despite the fact that the article did not spell out the words “This Man Claims To Be A Christian”, it’s implied by the text of the story (and numerous other news stories that have been going on throughout the week). I would imagine that they realize that only a complete moron would need them to be that specific at the start of evey article. > [@](#): > > it is argued by some that Mormons, altho they certainly revere JC, are not a “Christian” sect And those arguments are just plain wrong. Ever wonder what “LDS” stands for? It’s also argued by some that the universe is only 6,000 years old, or that women should have their clitoris’ (clitori?) sliced off. > [@](#): > > Tell, me, when you read about “gang-bangers”, do you always assume they are minorities? Nope. I never have to assume when the pictures of the alleged gang-bangers are shown on TV, or their ethnicity is reported. > [@](#): > > Does the word “stereotype” mean anything to you? How about “bigot”? Does the word “anal” mean anything to you? How about “stupid”? > [@](#): > > If you used the term “nigger”, to refer only to gang-bangers- would that be OK? No. Apparently, Chris Rock disagrees with you 😃 > [@](#): > > Only folks who are bigots or are ignorant use such words as pejoritives. Why? I believe it’s been laid out VERY SIMPLY AND CONCISELY for you several times, Daniel, yet I’ll lay it out again… A + B = C Where A = man acts like asshole B = man claims to be Christian/hides behind biblical teachings C = crazy nutcase fundie. Now, is that too difficult for you, or will you stop this “only ignorant people do blah blah blah” bullshit? ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/25 "2000-10-25T08:07:11Z")
Dickheadinthewolvesass: I already explained exactly the difference between “fundie” and racist/homophobic slurs to my own satisfaction, and in a way which mirrrors what a lot of people think. You disagree. Fine. Don’t use the words. But at the same time, quit trying to put words in people’s mouths! People who are not assholes like you know what I mean, especially after I explain it a hundred times. You have an issue with how I express myself? Fuck off. I communicate very nicely and am understoof by people on this board who happen to be gay, Christian, or none of the above. I do have problems geting things through your thick head, however, because you refuse to concede a point or even fucking listen to what people - many of them fellow Christians! - say about this subject. Tell you what: You think the board and many of its members treat Christians so bad? Fucking leave. There are a million boards on the world wide web which I’m sure won’t “persecute” you and your beliefs like the horrible people do here. Of course, you’ll then have to quit playing the fucking wounded martyr… Whatever you choose, shut the fuck up with this bogus persecution complex. It is wrong, it was shown to be wrong many times over, the overwhelming consensus is that you’re wrong, and I repeat: YOU’RE WRONG! And I’m fucking sick of hearing about it, as is any person here with half a brain in their heads. * * * Yer pal, [Satan](http://www.members.tripod.com/jmspoofe/sdmb/satan.jpg) \*TIME ELAPSED SINCE I QUIT SMOKING: Six months, two weeks, two days, 6 hours, 2 minutes and 50 seconds. 7970 cigarettes not smoked, saving $996.26. Extra time with Drain Bead: 3 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours, 10 minutes. **I slept with a REPUBLICAN moderator!** \* ---
**Author:** ![Navigator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@Navigator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Navigator)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/26 "2000-10-25T13:21:40Z")
First off, Satan is a Heathen! 😉 Second, the dude in the article is a nutcase, loonie, David Koresh/James Jones wanna be… He should be locked up and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The bible this whacko uses must have about half of the original scriptures torn out, at the very least he is missing part of the fifth chapter of Ephesians, either that or he hasn’t read the whole book yet, and is stuck somewhere in the OT, and can’t get past some of the big words useds in the prophets. While this poor soul suffers behind bars, I pray that his kids are permanently scarred by his abuse. I pray that all parties find the grace of God. Peace. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/27 "2000-10-25T13:45:13Z")
[quote] Tell you what: You think the board and many of its members treat Christians so bad? Fucking leave. There are a million boards on the world wide web which I’m sure won’t “persecute” you and your beliefs like the horrible people do here. [quote] Marry me, Satan! (Forgive me, Drain Bead) I, too, find DIWTD’s lack of coherent thinking frustrating. As you you all know, I am antithetical to all religions and I believe it will be a great day for humanity when we leave belief in religions and superstition behind us. On the other hand, I know that people I like and respect really do believe that God (Allah, Yahweh, Odin…) exists and that they can know His will. I respect their beliefs by keeping quiet about my own atheism and taking their religion seriously. If one’s religion leads one to being a thoughtful, kind, and compassionate person such as Polycarp or Navigator, that religion will be respected. If, however, a Bible believer decides to evangelize me without trying to know me or understand me, he is going to get blasted. It’s unfair to associate the loony in the article mentioned in the OP with standard Christianity. Many Christians I know are good people who wish to know and obey God’s will. ---
**Author:** ![Navigator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@Navigator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Navigator)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/28 "2000-10-25T13:57:39Z")
:eek: > [@](#): > > I pray that his kids are **n’t** permanently scarred by his abuse. I pray that all parties find the grace of God. yikes… and, wow… thanks goboy, being mentioned in the same sentence with Bro. Poly, and in a good light. How humbling… but this is the PIT… I mean, arent we supposed to fite and stuff… ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/29 "2000-10-25T14:42:43Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **oldscratch** _ > > mmmmmmmm…drywall 😃 😃 😃 {Bwahahahahahahahahaha!} You crack me up. 😉 Esprix ---
**Author:** ![don\_Jaime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b4bc9f/32.png) [@don\_Jaime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_Jaime)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/30 "2000-10-25T16:44:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Satan \* > \*\*Let me explain… > > The guy in the OP is a _fundie_, as in, “Can you believe how awful a person this _fundie_ is?” The person who preaches at me is a **fundie** as in “Get off my plane, you mind-melded zealot **fundie**!” Yes, one is reprehensible. The other is merely annoying and interrupting my rights to be free from religion and/or assholes. Different breeds of fundie, yes, but fundies nonetheless. > > That said, **Navigator** is a Christian who is a literalist and a Fundamentalist. He is neither reprehensible, nor is he an asshole. We will talk about God, but he respects me enough as a person to do so on my terms. > > Hence, I would not call Navigator a Fundie unless I was joking with him - since he is a friend, he would know the difference. He’d call me a heathen just as quickly, I think, in a similar tone and manner. > > Now, some people seem to think that the word “fundie” is the same as an ethnic slur. I do not share this view, for a simple reason: A racist sees a black man and, whether this person is dressed like a gangsta rapper or a Wall Street businessman, a word such as "nigger’ might come into their head. If a homophobic person does not like gays, the minute thy find out that a guy likes innies instead of outies, he will have contempt for that “faggot.” > > Whereas most Christians are totally cool, and the mere fact that you are Christian or even a Southern Baptist (such as StrTrkr, who I think is awesome) does not make you a “fundie.” Even having views that many Fundamentalists share does not in and of itself make you a “fundie” - After all, 'Gator and StrTrkr both probably share a lot of the same opinions on some issues as the folks who are the target of ridicule. > > They, however, are not assholes who annoy me, nor do they break the law in the name of God like the asshole in the OP (something which would probably draw the ire from both parties I use as examples). > > Therein lies the difference. Are we clear now, kids?\*\* No, I’m still having problems. The term “fundie” is used as a derogatory term for all fundamentalists, and can never be construed to refer to someone who is not fundamentalist. “Fundies” applies both to certifiables like the dipshit in the CNN story or to overbearing but otherwise harmless fundamentalists on an airplane trip. Navigator considers himself a fundamentalist, but he does not bother you and you like him, so he is not a fundie. What flashed through my mind was the old phrase “credit to his race.” He speaks when he’s spoken to and stays in his part of town. So, he gets the respect he’s earned by not threatening my beliefs. But these upper other ones are just a bunch of…you get the idea. This clearly is not the sort of relationship you have with Navigator; there is genuine mutual respect and affection. But the implication left by calling people you don’t like “fundies” is that Navigator, too, will be just a “fundie” if he should disagree with you. I’m not sure if I’m making myself clear enough. I hope you understand. ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/31 "2000-10-25T21:00:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by don Jaime \* > > \*\*The term “fundie” is used as a derogatory term for all fundamentalists, and can never be construed to refer to someone who is not fundamentalist. \*\* Says whom? > [@](#): > > \*\*“Fundies” applies both to certifiables like the dipshit in the CNN story or to overbearing but otherwise harmless fundamentalists on an airplane trip. Navigator considers himself a fundamentalist, but he does not bother you and you like him, so he is not a fundie. \*\* See? You’re getting it! 😃 > [@](#): > > \*\*But the implication left by calling people you don’t like “fundies” is that Navigator, too, will be just a “fundie” if he should disagree with you. \*\* Hate to break it to you, but 'Gator and I disagree on a LOT of things. And your analogy is somewhat flawed about the person who gets respect for being “a credit,” because that person is probably being judged negatively and his actions make the bigots tolerate his existance. Whereas I assume that all people - Christian or otherwise - are cool until they personally show me otherwise, and then my wrath is dedicated solely to them, not people who are like them. That and there are assholes who are not Fundies who get the wrath just as much as anyone else who deserves it. The term is used simply to define a specific asshole. To give you an example, I have called danielinthewolvesden an asshole on several occassions. He happens to be a Christian. But in spite of him being a Christian and an asshole, he is not a Fundie. Why? Because he is not using his faith in an assholish manner. Hence, the difference. * * * Yer pal, [Satan](http://www.members.tripod.com/jmspoofe/sdmb/satan.jpg) \*I HAVE BEEN SMOKE-FREE FOR: Six months, two weeks, two days, 19 hours, 5 minutes and 31 seconds. 7991 cigarettes not smoked, saving $998.98. Extra life with Drain Bead: 3 weeks, 6 days, 17 hours, 55 minutes. **I slept with a REPUBLICAN moderator!** \* ---
**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/32 "2000-10-25T21:04:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Satan \* > \*\*Dickheadinthewolvesass: > Whatever you choose, shut the fuck up with this bogus persecution complex. It is wrong, it was shown to be wrong many times over, the overwhelming consensus is that you’re wrong, and I repeat: YOU’RE WRONG! > > And I’m fucking sick of hearing about it, as is any person here with half a brain in their heads. > \*\* Note that the started of this thread, Adam, specifically asked for my opinions & input. I responded. How is that a “persecution complex”? If you are "sick of hearing about it’- who forced you to read this thread? Adam did not ask for your input- he asked for mine. Now, that does not mean you are not welcome to speak your mind, but certainly you should not be giving me a ration of shit over posting here. Next- where in this thread have I said anything at all about Christian being persecuted? I said that the use of the word “jeezoid” was pejoritive, and bigoted. I also pointed out that the nutcase in the article might not have been a Christian- other faiths use the OT, also. One of the mosy pitiful excuses for bigots is when they say\_ “well, I only use that term to refer to the ‘bad eggs’ amoung THEM”. Face it satan- you are a bigot. I know you won’t accept this- but you are. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/33 "2000-10-25T22:16:55Z")
> [@](#): > > Note that the started of this thread, Adam, specifically asked for my opinions & input. I responded. How is that a “persecution complex”? The _nature_ of your response, in addition the the _nature_ of many of your other responses in other threads, is what hints at your “persecution complex”. The OP asked you this… > [@](#): > > If you get your dander up when you see terms like “Fundie” and “Jeezoid” keep in mind the people in this article are whom most of us are referring to. If you still take exception to the “derogatory” terms then lets see you defend Christians who are “following the Bible’. Basically, he’s saying “When we say ‘Fundie’, we mean this guy. Can you defend this guy?” You responded with… > [@](#): > > Only folks who are bigots or are ignorant use such words as pejoritives. Which are you? How in the name of flying fucking Hell does this have anything to do with the OP?!? Are you saying that we’re ignorant bigots for saying that a man that tortures his children is an asshole?!? What kind of sick person are you, Daniel?!? > [@](#): > > If you are "sick of hearing about it’- who forced you to read this thread? Who forced YOU to read this thread? This is the lamest defense, you pathetic sack of stagnating semen. The fact that you turn a decent debate about the nature of assholes into a “persecution” or “bigoted” issue is what I (and, I imagine, Satan as well) am sick of hearing. If you want to spout your bullshit, find someplace where A: your bullshit hasn’t already been addressed a dozen times before, and B: people don’t mind hearing it. > [@](#): > > Next- where in this thread have I said anything at all about Christian being persecuted? It is how you ACT, dumbshit. In this thread and every other thread. You bring up buzzwords like “bigoted”, “ignorant”, fucking “nigger” (what the hell does that have to do with anything?!?). You didn’t address the OP in any way, you simply saw the term “Fundie” and immediately launched into a tirade that has no base in reality. > [@](#): > > One of the mosy pitiful excuses for bigots is when they say\_ “well, I only use that term to refer to the ‘bad eggs’ amoung THEM”. Gah, you’re an idiot. There’s no mention of “bad christians”, or “bad eggs” as you say… I believe it’s been addressed, but which you, in your blatant ignorance, chose to ignore. > [@](#): > > The term is used simply to define a specific asshole. Can you read that? I’ll post it again. > [@](#): > > The term is used simply to define a specific asshole. Not Christian. Not bad egg. “A specific asshole.” Do you get it now? Will you need it explained another hundred times for your mentally deficient self? I can go cutting and pasting all day. > [@](#): > > The term is used simply to define a specific asshole. > [@](#): > > The term is used simply to define a specific asshole. > [@](#): > > **The term is used simply to define a specific asshole.** It’s not that I don’t think **Satan** can defend himself (far from it), it’s just that he’s not the only one who finds such preposterous nonsense to be annoying. ---
**Author:** ![don\_Jaime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b4bc9f/32.png) [@don\_Jaime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_Jaime)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/34 "2000-10-26T02:25:39Z")
Satan - I see. “Fundie” is not a slur on all fundamentalists to you. It is to me. I honestly don’t see any more reason to change my opinion than you do yours. Thanks for the clarification. ---
**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/35 "2000-10-26T02:38:44Z")
A bigoted term “being used to describe a single asshole” is still a bigoted term. If there was an asshole, who just happened to be black, do you think you could get away with calling him a “nigger”? If there was an asshole, who just happened to be Jewish, do you think you could get away with calling him a “kike”? Try it sometime. There are lots of assholes in this world, and I have no problem with you calling them assholes. But, it is bigoted to use a racial/religous pejoritive to refer to those assholes. When the Senator from Arizona, ol’ Presidential wannabe John, used similar racial pejoritives to refer to the scumsucking bastards who tortured him in 'Nam, he was called on it- and he admitted he was WRONG, even tho he was “only using the term to refer to THOSE specific” criminals. “Jeezoid” is a religious pejoritive, and is only used by bigots and the ignorant, no matter how big the asshole is that the word is referring to. “Fundie” as it is short for “Christian Fundamentalist” is more acceptable, as long as you use it as a descriptive term, and not a pejoritive. Finally, that guy was NOT a Christian. Christians follow the words of Christ, not Proverbs. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/36 "2000-10-26T03:16:22Z")
> [@](#): > > A bigoted term “being used to describe a single asshole” is still a bigoted term. And that makes the user a bigot? Surprise, Daniel, you use those terms more than anyone. > [@](#): > > Finally, that guy was NOT a Christian. Christians follow the words of Christ, not Proverbs. You’ll be surprised to find out what can be classified as “Christian”. My old High School followed the “Marianist” tradition (basically, all their prayers went to the Virgin Mary). They are considered Christian, even though they emphasize his mother more than Christ himself. Additionally… > [@](#): > > There were religious and scriptural references on the walls of the desert house, police said. The words “GOD,” “Jesus,” and “Samson” were painted on the property. From [http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ao/20001017/cr/parents\_charged\_with\_chaining\_torturing\_sons\_1.html](http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ao/20001017/cr/parents_charged_with_chaining_torturing_sons_1.html) Seems pretty clear that the parents believed in “Jesus”, and assuming from the other evidence (scriptural references, for example), I think it’s pretty clear that they meant “Christ”. Couldn’t you have done the slightest bit of research on the topic your own, Daniel, instead of looking like an ass? AGAIN?!? This took me all of five minutes to find! ---
**Author:** ![Nocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9fc348/32.png) [@Nocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nocturne)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/37 "2000-10-26T03:57:19Z")
Daniel, you’re partially right about Christians following Jesus Christ, but Proverbs is in my Bible and I believe it’s some good advice. Of course, Proverbs only says “Spare the rod and spoil the child”, not “Spare the rod and your children will grow up to be psycho murderers so beat them and make them eat drywall.” At least, that’s what my translation says. And I don’t exactly like the word fundie, but it’s a word, and I’ve been called it simply because I mostly go to a Southern Baptist church. I don’t think that man can be classified as any sort of Christian, but I shouldn’t judge that way at all. The best word for him is loony. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/38 "2000-10-26T08:12:09Z")
Hey, we never said he was a GOOD Christian… 😃 Mostly, I refer to him as “Christian” because that’s how he (seemingly) views himself. Who am I to tell someone what religion they do or don’t belong to? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/39 "2000-10-26T14:13:11Z")
A black guy who is an asshole still can’t help the fact that he’s black. A Jew who is an asshole still can’t help the fact that he’s Jewish. (it is, after all, a “race”) A Christian who is an asshole about something having nothing to do with his religion (say, he cuts you off in traffic) is still just an asshole, because his religion has nothing to do with his actions. A Fundie is a religious person (not just a Christian–they just happen to be the most prevalent about it) who is an asshole SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF, REGARDING TO, AND DUE TO the religion they have chosen. They don’t HAVE to be an asshole about their religion, but they are. Whereas Navigator, Polycarp, Triskadecamus, Libertarian, Lauralee, StrTrkr777, cmkeller, sdimbert, and several others on this board alone manage to be obviously religious without ever traveling to Asshole-ville. A fundie is the difference between these people I just listed, and the folks who stand in the middle of a college campus screaming at one another. All of these people COULD decide to be total assholes about their religion one day, but they choose not to. Those who choose TO are going to be called fundies. The day a black person can choose to change his race, or a Jewish person can become a non-Jew despite his Jewish mother who gave birth to him, or a gay person can choose to be straight, I will accept your comparison. Until then, you’re just blowing smoke. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144/40 "2000-10-26T14:44:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Danielinthewolvesden \* > Face it satan- you are a bigot. I know you won’t accept this- but you are. Absolutely. **Satan** is _extremely_ prejudiced in his view of assholes. He sees them as jerks, dickwads, and general fucknuts. Come on, **Satan** ; soften your heart to these dipshits, and learn to not jump to the conclusion that because someone is an asshole, they are also a shithead. Surround yourself with assholes, and learn that they, too, are people, in some small, very specific sense of that word. Oh; and > [@](#): > > If a homophobic person does not like gays, the minute thy find out that a guy likes innies instead of outies My assumption always was that homosexual men prefer “outies” as it were, while straight guys prefer… um… “innies.” If this is opposite of your experience, I think **Drain Bead** ’s got some explaining to do… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-the-name-of-the-lord/38144.md?page=3)