In The Next "Sure, There's No Bias" Segment

Gee whiz, Merneith, do you know of any relevant clarifications on this matter that you chose not to mention for undoubtedly honorable reasons?

An interesting aside; every board I’ve ever been on (including one I moderated) alleged moderator bias against conservatives.

Obviously there’s a secret cabal. A moderator Illuminati, if you will.

Not really. The last time you mentioned clarifications you buggered up all the links.

But forget the links. As I’ve said all along, I’m not interested in swapping text walls with you. I just want people to see your actions, specifically, the part where you said that you were trying to get conservative judges elected to the mod team:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18752090&postcount=342

I’m glad that you agree that my quoting of your own admission is undoubtedly honorable. Indeed, what else could it be?

Preaching to the choir, buddy. :slight_smile: I honestly think he gets more than a fair shake - couple years back I reported him admitting to a violation of the board rules, and nothing happened. C’est la vie.

Incompetent.

That is, a competent effort to show my words would include subsequent posts that were directly material to the point you were making.

Your effort is undoubtedly honorable, but lacks that basic competence.

For those wondering, here is the quote I argue is relevant, from that same thread:

Not really relevant. Saying that it was not the only solution doesn’t mean you didn’t advocate it, which is what Merneith said.

Do you no longer advocate that as a remedy (even if not an exclusive one)?

I think it’s a possible remedy, but I am not advocating it now, and never specifically did advocate it.

Yes you did, in the post Merenieth quoted in post #123.

Denying you said what you said is not effective when the post itself is available. But I suspect you will contend that you didn’t actually mean what you said.

In any case, if you are so concerned about bias, why aren’t you advocating that?

No, didn’t say it, and Merneith never quoted me saying it. Merneith quoted me responding with two words to something Merneith said. Later in that same thread, this discussion about that response occurred:

My clear mistake there was the reasonableness of my reply. By saying “Yes, that’s a somewhat accurate statement,” I allowed Merneith the opportunity to selectively edit the conversation by stopping there. This is an incompetent editing choice, however (although undoubtedly completely honest) because the decision to eliminate the words that followed changes the meaning of the overall message.

Having read the entire summary, Colibri, and mindful of your claims that you are not biased against me, do you still say I argued specifically for adding more conservative moderators?

I’m surprised you’re not advocating for that. I personally would like to see more female moderators. Moderator diversity is a good thing.

You claimed that it “was a statement that enjoyed strong support from the liberal majority”. I demonstrated that that was false. If you would prefer to have said “If polled, my best guess is this statement would get strong agreement from the board”, then I agree that’s a less factually incorrect statement given there are no facts to check, but it isn’t what you said.

"I think X is a problem that should be addressed.

“Y is a possible solution to this problem. I have no other suggestions.”

But no one is to deduce from this that you might be advocating for Y?

I’d like to see more species diversity on the moderator staff … Wolfpup would be an excellent addition IMEIO …

You’re moving the goalposts by asking if you “argued specifically” for that. You clearly agreed with that proposition. Furiously backpedaling later does not change that.

Once again, given your crusade against bias, why don’t you advocate that position? Please present your arguments against it if you don’t actually support it.

Clearly you are lupine biased.

Can’t blame him, we don’t want this to turn into a cathouse.

Merneith’s summary:

You moved the goalposts here by claiming that this is satisfied by my “agreement” with what Merneith posted.

Frankly, I’d say that bias and hostility from you is evident in this exchange. It’s clear what both of my posts said.

People reading this – does Colibri’s summary of my words and stance seem like a fair-minded one? Does Merneith’s?

The reason I don’t is that in my opinion, the cure is worse than the disease. Beyond that, I suspect that any statement I make will be selectively quoted; i.e., “I support more conservative moderators but as a result of more organic balance that the SDMB reaches as the result of awareness of the extant biased environment,” which you and Merneith would then gleefully summarize as “Bricker specifically supports more conservative moderators! Told ya!” Note that the foregoing is an illustrative example, not necessarily my actual position.

Not that I expect such a disclaimer will stop everyone.

Now you want him to argue against a position he doesn’t support?

If you are against bias, why don’t you argue in favor of it?

Regards,
Shodan

Nonsense. It’s not my responsibility to demonstrate that your plain “yes”, didn’t really mean, “yes”, nor am I (nor anyone else in this thread) obligated to consider your subsequent “yes, but …” to carry the same weight as your plain affirmation.

“Yes … but only really sort of kinda yes” is neither a clarification nor a refutation.