# In Utero v. August and Everything After **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 19, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265 "2013-09-19T21:22:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/41 "2013-09-25T14:39:09Z")
No. Creed was crappy, Up-With-People pop with a quasi-metal coating, with enough of Stapp’s religious background informing the type of Uplift he was selling to annoy everyone on the believer/non spectrum. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/42 "2013-09-25T14:58:11Z")
Not even a question in my mind that In Utero is a better album. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/43 "2013-09-25T15:06:35Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > No. Creed was crappy, Up-With-People pop with a quasi-metal coating, with enough of Stapp’s religious background informing the type of Uplift he was selling to annoy everyone on the believer/non spectrum. Wow, that description makes it sound absolutely horrendous. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/44 "2013-09-25T15:18:26Z")
> [@Sateryn76](#): > > I much prefer AaEA, if for no other reason than it’s not just droning, whining and ultimately boring. Funny, I have used those three exact words to describe the album over the years. I can’t imagine how on earth anyone could listen to AD and not find him whiney. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/45 "2013-09-25T15:40:37Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > Wow, that description makes it sound absolutely horrendous. Success! ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/46 "2013-09-27T15:15:19Z")
[QUOTE=Living Well is Best Revenge] Wow, that description makes it sound absolutely horrendous. [/QUOTE] > [@scabpicker](#): > > Success! Imagine Fabio: [Fabio Lanzoni - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabio_Lanzoni) With a furrowed brow - is he pensive? Is he confused? Why the tank top? - he bursts into a metal version of Gloria Gaynor’s I Will Survive - selling hard\*; with rockets going off and shit. Muscles flex, orgasm face happens, bombast escalates. Boom - you have been Uplifted. \*unlike Cake’s perfect hyper-ironic versionn. I love Cake. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/47 "2013-09-27T15:58:28Z")
_In Utero_ was just _all right_. I couldn’t stand a lot of the songs that got airplay like _Rape Me_ or _Heart-Shaped Box_. _All Apologies_, _Pennyroyal Tea_, and _Serve the Servants_ should’ve gotten more time on the radio. _August and Everything After_ was close to a masterpiece, in my opinion. Pretty much every song was good and definitely touching on an emotional level. Adam Duritz doesn’t necessarily sing with _more_ emotion than Kurt Cobain, but definitely different (and touching) emotion. Edit: I was a _huge_ Nirvana fan back in the 90’s, but _In Utero_ I felt was one of their weakest albums. ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/48 "2013-09-29T17:23:28Z")
CC were pretty bland; slightly more ponderous than Hootie and the Blowfish. Dylan for middle schoolers. Nirvana were downright trenchant by comparison. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/49 "2013-10-02T22:36:48Z")
Never cared for Counting Crows, can’t say I’ve even thought of them in 18 or more years so no opinion change. Wasn’t a huge Nirvana fan, but wouldn’t change the channel if they came on the radio or whatever, over time I’ve come to appreciate them more, but I mean, I still don’t worship them like some people do or anything. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/50 "2013-10-03T10:03:16Z")
If you’d asked me twenty years ago, I’d have said In Utero. These days, the only Nirvana that interests me is the Unplugged, and that mostly for the covers. Cobain was an excellent performer, and showed promise as a songwriter, but in my opinion that promise never fully developed. Adam Duritz is a brilliant, if slightly one-dimensional songwriter. I can still listen to AaEA today and find meaning in it, just as I can with their other albums. I’d rather listen to Recovering The Satellites though. ---
**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/51 "2013-10-03T15:43:52Z")
Eh, I bought both when they dropped, but In Utero is the only one I’ll still listen to. It’s the highpoint of Nirvana’s output and still resonates. AaEA seems no more than melodramatic to me, while IU seems much more authentic in it’s pain of life expressions. A big part of that is probably due to the differing production styles, but a big part is just that Cobain seemed a lot more sincere and naked than did Durwitz. That’s just my opinion, of course, but it’s right for me. I haven’t picked up the IU reissue yet, but I certainly plan to for the original Albini mixes alone. ---
**Author:** ![Caffeine.addict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@Caffeine.addict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caffeine.addict)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/52 "2013-10-03T16:14:49Z")
I remember owning and liking both albums at the time. I can’t really remember which album I liked more at the time. Going off of memories, I think In Utero might have been the better album. I haven’t really listened to either of them since 1999 at the latest, so I have no idea how they’ve aged. I think I still have them so I have to go hunting for them. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/53 "2013-10-03T16:59:38Z")
> [@Purd\_Werfect](#): > > I haven’t picked up the IU reissue yet, but I certainly plan to for the original Albini mixes alone. Wow, I didn’t know that we didn’t get the Albini mixes. I always thought it sounded awfully over-produced for one of his recordings. From glancing at the wiki page, it seems to say that he was doing the mixing. I might actually seek that out to hear it. Who did the mix we’re familiar with? ---
**Author:** ![Purd\_Werfect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47c2d/32.png) [@Purd\_Werfect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Purd_Werfect)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265/54 "2013-10-03T18:11:46Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > Wow, I didn’t know that we didn’t get the Albini mixes. I always thought it sounded awfully over-produced for one of his recordings. From glancing at the wiki page, it seems to say that he was doing the mixing. I might actually seek that out to hear it. Who did the mix we’re familiar with? From what I understand, a good portion of the songs were the originally delivered Albini engineered tracks, but a couple were remixed by REM’s producer at the time. The reissue includes all Albini’s original mixes, which reportedly don’t sound widely different, but a little more visceral. [Deets here.](http://www.avclub.com/articles/nirvanas-in-utero-now-20-succeeded-because-of-its,103242/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-utero-v-august-and-everything-after/669265.md?page=2)