# In what ways are men discriminated against? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 8, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184 "2012-04-08T16:38:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/101 "2012-04-09T16:32:33Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > Why would negative sterotypes make me feel better about any sex ? As well, I disagree to your assertion that women are denigrated more than men in commercials, you’re probably not paying attention or it’s become so normal that you don’t even notice it, or chuckle about it and see no harm . > > If you spent anytime looking at the examples I provided, then reversed the roles in these examples you know as well as I do these commercials would be pulled. No, in all honesty I don’t find your examples to be funny and I don’t chuckle them away when they are presented to me. My point was merely to demonstrate that the gender stereotypes are prevalent in way that are derogatory towards women as much as they are towards men. But I will keep my eyes open for more examples like the ones you mention. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/102 "2012-04-09T16:40:34Z")
Some airlines have had (and some still have) [a policy that forbids seating unaccompanied children next to adult men.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_sex_discrimination_policy_controversy) ---
**Author:** ![AqualungBats5th](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@AqualungBats5th](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AqualungBats5th)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/103 "2012-04-09T16:45:25Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > Why would negative sterotypes make me feel better about any sex ? As well, I disagree to your assertion that women are denigrated more than men in commercials, you’re probably not paying attention or it’s become so normal that you don’t even notice it, or chuckle about it and see no harm . In what ways are these commercials causing there to be systematic, ingrained biases against men? And that are not already based in sexist notions that have already been negatively affecting women since well, forever? Please enlighten me. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/104 "2012-04-09T16:50:00Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > Noted. Troll on. Accusations of trolling is reserved for the Pit, not any other forum. Use the Pit if you wish to call someone a troll or accuse them of trolling. Don’t do this again, **Ibanez**. Just a note, not a warning. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/105 "2012-04-09T17:08:19Z")
> [@Ibanez](#): > > Obviously you feel that men aren’t discriminated against, or that women are discriminated more and because of it and men shouldn’t be bitching about it. Ever. Either way you’re not helping your case by just stating you find this thread hilarious, and providing nothing else. Actually, I do sort of get what **miss elizabeth** was getting at (I think). There are very real, very serious ways in which men are discriminated against such as **Slithy Tove’s** story - it’s disgraceful that men are treated that way, and as the mother of a young boy, I worry about his future and what sorts of struggles he’s going to face because of being a boy. However, the first page of this thread was nonsense about women taking 70 cents that every man makes (Huh? 😕 What woman? What man? What on earth are you talking about?) or getting two years paid _holiday_ after having a baby, or whinging about ‘How dare my teacher plan her pregnancy to screw with my school year!’ because everyone knows pregnancy is the type of thing that’s easy to plan and no one ever struggles to get pregnant - obviously that bitch should have aborted when she realized how she was affecting her students! :rolleyes: My point is, there are very real ways in which men are discriminated against - what a shame that this thread is filled up with misogynist garbage instead of a discussion of those actual issues. That being said, page two and page three are a big improvement. As I said, I have a little boy. I’m considering sending him to a boys only school when he begins in a couple of years specifically because of some of the issues raised in this thread. Him not getting preferential treatment at a Vegas bar is not one of them. ---
**Author:** ![just\_some\_guy5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@just\_some\_guy5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/just_some_guy5)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/106 "2012-04-09T18:03:04Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Yet it overwhelmingly and systematically favors women. That’s like saying “hey, poor people only pay 15% tax on their capital gains, just like rich people!” Not to thread hijack, but as an FYI households with income of less than ~$70k pay 0% tax on capital gains. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/107 "2012-04-09T18:51:19Z")
If you start such a thread on a usually left-leaning MB such as the SDMB, some posters will laugh and point because discrimination against men is funny. Women, not so much. Kind of like prison rape. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/108 "2012-04-09T18:59:51Z")
Who is laughing and pointing? ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/109 "2012-04-09T19:01:20Z")
Amongst those trying to have a conversation. Not **miss elizabeth**. Laughing and pointing is the only contribution she has most of the time. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/110 "2012-04-09T19:01:25Z")
NM ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/111 "2012-04-09T19:02:55Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Amongst those trying to have a conversation. Not **miss elizabeth**. Laughing and pointing is the only contribution she has most of the time. She’s the one. I am unfamiliar with her posting habits. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/112 "2012-04-09T19:04:50Z")
Then I assure you, the laughing and pointing is a product of the poster, not the topic or the message board. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/113 "2012-04-09T19:06:45Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Then I assure you, the laughing and pointing is a product of the poster, not the topic or the message board. Thank you. I guess I shouldn’t expect to get an answer from her, but now I don’t even really want one. ---
**Author:** ![gracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@gracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracer)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/114 "2012-04-09T20:31:17Z")
I agree it is a shame the thread got a hijacked by people laughing and pointing. Inequality between the sexes is prevalent and will only ever get better if we all get better at recognising it. That’s why I welcome such a thread, where people can contribute what they have found in their lives that discriminates men. It is far too easy to walk around with your eyes closed to inequality. **Slithy Tove** , I am so, so sorry for what you have had to go through. It is an absolute outrage. It’s the same way of thinking that I was trying to point out in my earlier post, when I mentioned how the men I worked with were prevented from cuddling and comforting the children. Like all men are evil sexual predators, a priori, default man-mode is to harm. Thanks for sharing, like I said, we need these examples to open our eyes to the inequality and also to re-examine the way we think (man=bad). Here is another example: When my dad taught maths & physics for a while he would also tutor any students who wanted extra lessons. It would always be at the kitchen table, but he always asked my mum to stay around just in case there would ever be any questions. I’ve tutored English, and I’ve never had to have another person around. Because my chromosomes don’t make me a rabid sexual predator like my evil dad? WTF? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/115 "2012-04-09T21:12:47Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > Actually, I do sort of get what **miss elizabeth** was getting at (I think). > > \ > > My point is, there are very real ways in which men are discriminated against - what a shame that this thread is filled up with misogynist garbage instead of a discussion of those actual issues. That being said, page two and page three are a big improvement. Totally agree. There’s also a tendency among some “men’s rights” types to suggest that, just because there are some particular areas where men suffer discrimination, therefore the whole feminist movement is redundant and full of man-haters. The belligerent and hateful misogyny of some of these people tends to detract from the real issues, which (perhaps ironically) is precisely the argument that some anti-feminists make about the radical fringe of the feminist movement. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/116 "2012-04-09T21:19:16Z")
Oh I thought of another one: cover charges to places. Often girls get in free but men have to pay. And then there’s the fact that if a girl is attractive, she can pretty much have whatever she wants in life handed to her on a silver platter simply for being cute. That isn’t the case for even very attractive men (though it is still advantageous for men to be attractive, just not to the same degree). ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/117 "2012-04-09T21:30:02Z")
I thought this thread was about actual gender discrimination, instead of “things **Rig** is angry with pretty girls about.” ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/118 "2012-04-09T21:36:41Z")
Jeez, it’s a damn good thing I actually wasn’t trying to rile anyone up. Three little lines, and I’ve gone and hijacked the whole thing. Or maybe you’re a little too sensitive to criticism of your (dumb) complaints? Nah, it must be me. :rolleyes: Seriously though, I’ve spoken out about gender discrimination against men (and prison rape in particular) on this board a number of times. Look at my posting history. It’s just that most of these complaints are stupid (as **ladyfoxfyre** is beginning to see). ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/119 "2012-04-09T21:50:39Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > I thought this thread was about actual gender discrimination, instead of “things **Rig** is angry with pretty girls about.” Seriously, some hot chick obviously shit in his Corn Flakes this morning. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184/120 "2012-04-09T21:51:04Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > Seriously, some hot chick obviously shit in his Corn Flakes this morning. I’ll be in my bunk. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-what-ways-are-men-discriminated-against/618184.md?page=7)