# In which a NYTimes Wedding Announcement renders me indignant at Millenials ;-) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 25, 2017, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826 "2017-06-25T13:13:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/1 "2017-06-25T13:13:07Z")
See here: [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/fashion/weddings/in-a-relationship-but-not-out-just-yet.html?action=click&contentCollection=fashion®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=8&pgtype=sectionfront](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/fashion/weddings/in-a-relationship-but-not-out-just-yet.html?action=click&contentCollection=fashion®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=8&pgtype=sectionfront) Nah, nothing to do with the first same-sex marriage in the Oak Room - more power to 'em and the cake looked amazing. No - here is the offending quote: [QUOTE=Sincere, Unironic Millenials] **First Dance** \*: The couple danced to “ **Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us Now** ” by **Starship**. [/QUOTE] :mad: Look, I can handle that **Don’t Stop Believin’** has somehow been canonized as a Legitimate Song in a way it NEVER was in its day (even in South Detroit). But if freakin’ _Starship_ becomes somehow acceptable, we’re going to have to talk. Now get off my lawn. (\*And, by the way, if you want a cool throwback tune for first dance, everybody knows it’s **Kung Fu Fighting**.) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/2 "2017-06-25T13:38:47Z")
Meh, still beats the frickin’ required POS song _YMCA_. Why hasn’t that crapped died yet? “ **Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us Now** ” is nowhere near as annoying. It comes on, it is barely noticed and it is done. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/3 "2017-06-25T13:47:19Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Look, I can handle that **Don’t Stop Believin’** has somehow been canonized as a Legitimate Song in a way it NEVER was in its day (even in South Detroit). That’s my go-to karaoke song. Damn straight it’s legit. 😉 (But then, I’m 45 and have always liked Journey…) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/4 "2017-06-25T13:50:45Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > See here: [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/fashion/weddings/in-a-relationship-but-not-out-just-yet.html?action=click&contentCollection=fashion®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=8&pgtype=sectionfront](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/fashion/weddings/in-a-relationship-but-not-out-just-yet.html?action=click&contentCollection=fashion®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=8&pgtype=sectionfront) > > Nah, nothing to do with the first same-sex marriage in the Oak Room - more power to 'em and the cake looked amazing. > > No - here is the offending quote: > :mad: C’mon, man, look at the source! Clearly this is fake news! FAKE I tell ya! LALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU! FAKE NEWS! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/5 "2017-06-25T14:34:45Z")
Sorry, but I can’t get aboard the OP’s Rage Train, since all my angst is still directed at the Red Sox for making “Sweet Caroline” a goddamn Fenway anthem. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/6 "2017-06-25T15:09:21Z")
No, **WordMan** , Journey being retroactively deified wasn’t acceptable, it was a sign of how far the bastards had gotten. The pod people have already gotten into your mind, and you’ll be accepting Starship as inoffensive soon enough. Shhh, shhh, don’t fight it…it’s better this way. ---
**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/7 "2017-06-25T15:17:02Z")
If we take as a given that 90% of music is crap, and we assume that most people’s taste isn’t randomly distributed between good and bad music, then it follows that the great majority of people have crappy taste. 🙂 Apparently, though, the readers of Rolling Stone are an above average lot, as are the Editors of GQ Maqazine: > **[We Built This City](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Built_This_City)** > > "We Built This City" is the debut single by American rock band Starship, from their 1985 debut album Knee Deep in the Hoopla. It was written by English musicians Martin Page and Bernie Taupin, who were both living in Los Angeles at the time, and was originally intended as a lament against the closure of many of that city's live music clubs. > The song peaked at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100. Outside the United States, "We Built This City" topped the charts in Australia and Canada, peaked inside... > [@](#): > > In 2011 a Rolling Stone magazine online readers poll named “We Built This City” as the worst song of the 1980s. The song’s winning margin was so large that the magazine reported it “could be the biggest blow-out victory in the history of the Rolling Stone Readers Poll”.[10] > > GQ Worst Song of All Time[edit] > In August 2016, Gentlemen’s Quarterly magazine declared this song as the worst of all time, referring to it as “the most detested song in human history”.[11] Didn’t Grace Slick eventually apologize for visiting this plague upon us? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/8 "2017-06-25T15:25:37Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > No, **WordMan** , Journey being retroactively deified wasn’t acceptable, it was a sign of how far the bastards had gotten. The pod people have already gotten into your mind, and you’ll be accepting Starship as inoffensive soon enough. > > Shhh, shhh, don’t fight it…it’s better this way. I actually had edited my first post to add a comment that I actually was NOT okay with DSB getting elevated. But I got interrupted and missed the Save window. Yeah, I find ironic that, IMHO, the use of the song in The Soprano’s final scene was to point out just how banal the context was. DSB was corporate-rock wallpaper in its day, well executed and pleasant. I hate pleasant. ---
**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/9 "2017-06-25T15:40:26Z")
> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#): > > Apparently, though, the readers of Rolling Stone are an above average lot, as are the Editors of GQ Maqazine: > > [We Built This City - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Built_This_City) > > Didn’t Grace Slick eventually apologize for visiting this plague upon us? Oh, and I suppose I should have made plain that We Built This City and Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us are two closely-related symptoms of the same disease. Kind of like when food poisoning comes with both vomiting and the runs. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/10 "2017-06-25T15:44:11Z")
> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#): > > Oh, and I suppose I should have made plain that We Built This City and Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us are two closely-related symptoms of the same disease. > > Kind of like when food poisoning comes with both vomiting and the runs. ::snort:: thanks, man. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/11 "2017-06-25T16:02:36Z")
At a young rocker couple wedding I attended in '81 the first dance song was “Night Moves”. Just let that sink in for a bit. Noted in the future that I might start the odd thread with “In which…”. Thank-you. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/12 "2017-06-25T16:16:16Z")
I normally try not to wish bad things on people no matter how much I detest their actions. But in this case just no. I hope they both get poison oak in the crotch. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/13 "2017-06-25T16:23:59Z")
They’ll be divorced within 7 years. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/14 "2017-06-25T16:26:16Z")
Will I get tarred and feathered for admitting to being a fan of “Don’t Stop Believing”? I think it came out before I was born, but I overheard it played at a workout and I kinda fell in love with it. Now, back to the topic of hate, the canonized song I _really_ despise is “Hey There Delilah”. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/15 "2017-06-25T16:48:26Z")
> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#): > > Didn’t Grace Slick eventually apologize for visiting this plague upon us? We still refer to “Kneedeep In The Hoopla” as the “We’re holding Grace’s family hostage to make her do this” album. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/16 "2017-06-26T10:11:10Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > We still refer to “Kneedeep In The Hoopla” as the “We’re holding Grace’s family hostage to make her do this” album. For some ignorance-is-bliss reason, I had actually forgotten that the name of the Starship album was “Kneedeep in the Hoopla”. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/17 "2017-06-26T16:59:21Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > I actually had edited my first post to add a comment that I actually was NOT okay with DSB getting elevated. I kind of want to write a musical adaptation of _The Hobbit_, and have the dwarves and Bilbo belt out _Don’t Stop Believin’_ at some random point. Because it would be an unexpected Journey. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/18 "2017-06-26T18:08:58Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Because it would be an unexpected Journey. :dubious: We HAVE standards, you know. They’re not very high, but they exist! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/19 "2017-06-26T18:18:55Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **What Exit?** : > > Meh, still beats the frickin’ required POS song YMCA. Why hasn’t that crapped died yet? The purpose of “YMCA” in a DJ’s repertoire (like “The Electric Slide” and “The Cha-Cha Shuffle”) is to get people onto the dance floor, because everyone knows (or thinks they know) how to dance those. The hope, then, is that once people are on the floor, they’ll stay there for a while, before the next “get people onto the floor” song is needed. So if you object to “YMCA” being played, the solution is to just keep dancing, so that the DJ won’t need to resort to it. ---
**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826/20 "2017-06-26T18:59:13Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > I kind of want to write a musical adaptation of _The Hobbit_, and have the dwarves and Bilbo belt out _Don’t Stop Believin’_ at some random point. > > Because it would be an unexpected Journey. I racked my brain trying to remember my password but I couldn’t so I reset it…all just so I could ask permission to use/share/steal your comment. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-a-nytimes-wedding-announcement-renders-me-indignant-at-millenials/789826.md?page=2)