In which Diogenes threatens to kill children

I have a crazy feeling that you would think this if DtC said “good morning” to you.

As to the OP, sounds like the situation is a real bitch, and you’re taking out your completely understandable frustration on an innocent, if irritating, party. I seriously suggest you work on finding some peace with your situation.

“flaming”? Jesus H. you mean they can catch fire!

I’d just as soon I didn’t know that.

There are all kinds of things people are allergic to that no one thinks about.

I am allergic to latex–which made my stay in the hospital and my subsequent emergency C-section a fun time for all the nurses involved. Luckily my latex allergy is not severe enough to be life-threatening but they have to treat is as such as a latex allergy can be mild every time and then suddenly, be deadly.

But people are beconing more and more familiar with latex allergies. However, I have a severe problem and a fear with my other allergy.

I have to wear a MedicAlert necklace because I am allergic to…wait for it…Benedryl. Yes, Benedryl causes my circulatory system to slow down to a crawl resulting in the drying of all mucous membranes (which can cause damage to my eyes from lack of moisture and severe itching in other areas) and also respiratory distress. So in the event of an allergic reaction to latex (or grass which is my other contact allergy), the last thing in the world I should be given in Benedryl.

Allergies are funny things but again, it is the individual’s responsibility to make the concessions for it. (Or the parents’ in the case of children.)

Latex, Benedryl and grass??

I’m so sorry. :frowning:

It’s actually not as bad as it sounds if you’re careful.

I can’t touch grass and have to be careful going outside right after someone close by has mowed.

I do have a perpetually stuffy nose and itchy, watery eyes in the summer, though.

Working in the hospital poses a risk because of the latex but since I don’t work in patient care area, it doesn’t come up often. I’ve also never had a problem being around it as long as I don’t touch it. Of course, this can change at any time and if so, new job for me somewhere else, I guess!

As far as I know, nut allergies are generally not able to be treated with allergy shots, unless the allergy itself is fairly minor. I know that in all the years that I was getting allergy shots, they were not able to treat my nut allergy because of its severity. Something to do with the concentration of the nut oils (which is usually the source of the allergy, so I have been told) not being able to be reduced in concentration enough to NOT cause a major reaction.

Or so I was told when I asked that very question to my allergy specialist on my last visit.:smack:

Oh well…

Just my 2 cents worth…

I fucking NEVER agree with DTC on anything that I’ve read. But when they said…
Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic
"How come we didn’t have these little peanut wusses thirty years ago?"
I have to agree 100%.

I went to public school from 1966-1979. We NEVER had this problem with anyone. Never, ever, even heard of it until after I graduated college in 1984. Something just isn’t right. How can an allergy pop up after 1984? Why does this seem like such a new thing?

Clearly that little bastard turning blue on the floor is faking it.

Sighhhhh…Nobody said it doesn’t exist. Some of us are just wondering how it got so prevalent so fast.
Think of Blair Hornstein. I don’t recall anyone claiming that chronic fatigue syndrome didn’t exist, but there were a lot of people doubting that she, personally, suffered from it.

To the Op, you and your child can move to Argentina [Gollum] We don’t want no stinking peanut butter [/Gollum].
We prefer “Dulce de Leche”.

I would have called it “Manjar” but maybe that’s just a Chilean phrase. Send me a box of “Alfajor” cookies and I’ll pay you double. :slight_smile:

That’s because Hornstein was reported to have engaged in strenuous physical activity like regularly working out at the gym, and many doubted whether a young woman with CFS would really be able to do that. Has anyone seen any of these kids who supposedly suffer from peanut allergies chowing down on a big PBJ?

I think I’m the first person to catch this:

It’s a Newsweek story on the rise in food allergies, particularly peanut allergies, in children.

Factors contributing to this “allergy epidemic” seem to be genetics, air pollution, underexposure to germs while the immune system is developing, and overexposure or too-early exposure to trigger foods – especially peanuts. The article cites the American Academy of Pediatrics as recommending that pregnant women, nursing mothers, and children under the age of three avoid peanuts.

So it seems that the attitude seen in this thread and the other one on the subject – that peanuts are a crucial part of the American diet and that eliminating peanuts from your child’s lunchbox is an undue hardship – may actually be contributing to the problem. In other words, if parents didn’t give their kids so much damn peanut butter in the first place then there’d be fewer children developing these life-threatening allergies.

Don’t get me wrong; I love peanut butter. I mean I really, really love it. It’s something of a family joke. But I’m not addicted to it. I could easily bear with not having peanut butter for lunch on weekdays if this small sacrifice on my part would help protect a classmate or coworker from having a dangerous allergic reaction.

[sorta hijack]
Thanks to Lilairen and Karensky who answered my question about desensitization therapy in regard to peanuts.
I rather thought that was the case, but not having any such nut allergies that actually bother me, I really didn’t know.

Thanks again.

Lamia it is indeed nice of you to offer. That’s a world different than being required. and, as was noted, in some cases, merely refraining from bringing pb & J sandwiches yourself may not have been sufficient.

This is what is driving me nuts, its NOT JUST PEANUT BUTTER!

Are you telling me that I can give this child a chocolate cupcake made with peanut oil and nothing would happen to him? What about chocolate or salsa or any of the myriad of other foods with hidden peanut products in them?

*Some surprising foods that have a label indicating “may include peanuts” or “processed in a plant containing peanuts”:

* Plain M&M’s®
* Jelly Bellys (jelly beans)

Also, the Reduced Fat Cheese Nips do contain peanut oil, while the regular Cheese Nips do not!*

That’s okay is it? So you’re going to prevent my kid, from bringing peanut butter, but let him bring and possible share Cheese Nips, Jelly Bean or PLAIN M&M’s which are made in peanut oil?

Can my kid rub his Cheese Nipped covered fingers on this allergic child, without triggering an attack? Can he sneeze little bits of airborne Cheese Nips on this allergic child and not trigger an attack?

Does anyone know? Why is it so freaking hard to have this kid have his own table away from the other kids?

Why… because the other kids, may still come in contact with him? Then once again, why not band All peanut based products? I fail to see the difference between being touched with a stickly peanut butter covered finger and a greasy peanut oil covered one.

Is it a difference of seconds, minutes? Dead is dead, right?

You guys have been told that for some people, peanut butter isn’t just a convenient snack, but all they can afford to feed their kids. But these people are being selfish, how dare they have a low income…Free ranged chicken for everyone! Hear, hear!

I grew up in a single household and know how tough it was for my mother sometimes, to work a couple of jobs and try to get me dressed, fed and on the bus…but no, she’s being selfish, trying to make her minimum wage, part-time paychecks last the week.

Hell, where’s that roast beef, where’s the lobster? Oh sorry, the vegans are getting upset…

But the hell with them and the what dozen, hundreds of other parents who have their own kids to worry about.

The right of the one…bah.

Is cashew butter any safer than peanut butter?

Uh, no, I did not in fact tell you anything of the sort. All I did was mention my personal love of peanut butter. That is the primary peanut product in my diet. I have no idea where you got the idea that my post was making a claim that peanut butter is somehow more dangerous for allergy sufferers than other foods that contain peanuts, especially since I mentioned peanuts in general (without the word “butter” attached) several times.

But Lamia, the point still holds. You can give up peanut butter for lunch, but that doesn’t mean it will do emarkp’s kid any good in the same school, as peanut oil or peanuts may be in a myriad of other things the child is exposed to at school or in other places.

My husband thinks peanut butter is one of the four major food groups. My kids don’t leave the house in the morning without peanut butter toast (I don’t get it, not being a peanut butter person - I’d rather just have jam on toast). They are 4 and 5, so they aren’t necessarily the world’s tidiest eaters.

So they go to daycare with peanut butter behind their ears, on the sleeve of their shirt, the sole of their shoes. And emarkp’s kid has an allergic reaction - despite us following the “no peanut butter at school rule.”

So lets say to prevent this, daycare sends out a note and we stop feeding peanut butter to the kids for breakfast. But one day Grandma is watching the kids and she doesn’t know, and its peanut butter toast for breakfast and emarkp’s kid is dead. Or emarkp and junior are walking out of 7-11 and I happen to be in front of them and I bite into a Snickers. And emarkp’s kid is dead. Or I eat Reese’s in the movie theatre with emarkp and kid behind me - and emarkp’s kid is dead. Or I open a Thai restaurant next door to their house and the smell of peanuts and the peanut particles do her in.

At some point, you need to manage the allergy instead of giving others the responsibility for managing the environment. Because its simply unrealistic to think the public environment will be managed to the point at which there is no risk.

Not if the point was that I allegedly believe that my beloved peanut butter should be banned for the safety of peanut-sensitive children but that merrily exposing these same children to all manner of other peanut products is fine and dandy. That is the point I was responding to. It does not “still hold” because it is both false and ridiculous.

Which is probably why the school in the original news article that spawned the GD thread that spwned this Pit thread was attempting to completely ban all peanut products. But for some inexplicable reason, holmes seems to think that because I said I like peanut butter then I must think that peanut butter is the only peanut-based food that peanut-sensitive children need to be shielded from.

Had I realized that my love of peanut butter would cause such confusion I would not have mentioned it at all. However, I wanted to make it clear that I’m not just someone who hates peanut butter and doesn’t want anyone to be allowed to eat it.

And now I’ve typed the word “peanut” so many times that I’m really feelin’ that peanut butter jones. Time for a snack.