# In which I bid the Dope Adieu **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691 "2007-09-10T18:24:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/21 "2007-09-10T20:28:27Z")
Another one who hasn’t gotten to know you, but’ll miss you just the same. Good luck in all future endeavors. And remember, if’n ya ever change your mind… ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/22 "2007-09-10T20:33:42Z")
Good Luck **Brewha** , I’ll miss your posts. Of course you could have skipped some of the general insults in your op, but oh well. 😉 You are always allowed to change your mind. Jim ---
**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/23 "2007-09-10T20:35:16Z")
That is odd, I share all your complaints about the website/server. But you must be talking about some different members. Sorry to see you go, I respect my right to bitch and moan, but will never leave. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/24 "2007-09-10T20:43:54Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **enigm4tic** > Hold out until somebody pays you to leave [QUOTE=brewha] See, that works in theory, but it also takes years and years to get that kind of hatred built up towards you. You’d have to just skirt the line of troll-dum so you don’t get banned but still manage to piss someone off that much. And since AFAIK, **it’s only happened once in the history of the board** , that’s a tough one reproduce. Unless, that is, you’re offering 😃 [/QUOTE] Does this mean that someone has been paid to leave? How did I miss that. Sorry to see you go, brewha. ---
**Author:** ![Swampwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/25 "2007-09-10T20:54:41Z")
> [@Brewha](#): > > Every new thread that is a not widely accepted idea like “Bush Sucks” is ridiculed and everyone takes turns trying to prove that they are smarter or that their dicks are bigger. There is no one definitive post or thread that explains what I mean. It is an overall attitude change that seems to have happened here. It’s not really a change. It’s been like this since I first checked out the Dope in…'98? '99? Yes, Dopers are, as a whole, arrogant, condescending and insulting. Opinionated, argumentative, snarky and elitist. To paraphrase The Player in Tom Stoppard’s _Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead,_ > [@](#): > > We’re _Dopers._ We’re the opposite of people. It’s part of who we are. We’re right, and we don’t care whose feelings are hurt when we prove it. But it’s not real life. It’s just a computer. We’re not even real, just pixels on a screen. If what gets said here gets under your skin so easily, perhaps we aren’t the ones who need to, as you put it, > [@brewha](#): > > … grow up. Get a haircut and a shave. Move out of your mom’s basement.\* [QUOTE=brewha] The people have gotten to be less fun on here. It wasn’t that long ago that I would, at least once a day, set at my desk stifling giggles and wiping tears from my eyes - just completely entertained by threads. Now it seems that everyone’s turned into assholes (obviously not everyone, but more than not). [/quote] Then you need to be more judicious about the threads you read. There are still a lot of freakin’ _hilarious_ threads out there. I’m sorry the ones you’ve come across lately have been so full of vitriol, but that’s the way the Dope smokes, y’know. Some threads are fun, some are sad, some are pissy, some are even too pointless to read. We’ve got something for everyone! Well, I guess not _every_one. That said, I’m glad for you…you can’t stand the heat, so you’re getting out of the kitchen. Still, good luck to you, and I hope you find another place that is more to your liking. \*What’s with the “move out of your mom’s basement” crack that seems to be everywhere, anyway? People can be cyber-gollums living on their own, you know. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/26 "2007-09-10T20:54:56Z")
[QUOTE=Yllaria] Does this mean that someone has been paid to leave? How did I miss that. Sorry to see you go, brewha. [/QUOTE] It was an ugly episode involving the well known \*\*Liberal \*\* and not so well known **[pseudotriton ruber ruber](http://208.100.26.199/sdmb/member.php?u=25715)**. \*\*Liberal \*\* paid PRR $500 to go away. This lead to a several series of pit threads. It was ugly. Did I mention it was very ugly? [The Thread itself](http://208.100.26.199/sdmb/showthread.php?t=407718) [The first followup pitting.](http://208.100.26.199/sdmb/showthread.php?t=408995) Jim ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/27 "2007-09-10T20:58:28Z")
Sorry to see you go, **brewha**. I did once call you insane, but in my defense, I _was_ trying to get you lynched at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Amok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f17d59/32.png) [@Amok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amok)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/28 "2007-09-10T20:59:44Z")
Given the performance of this site, I can think of only one thing upon hearing that someone is leaving: GQLLFM ---
**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/29 "2007-09-10T21:03:04Z")
Now, see, **brewha** , by leaving, you’re letting the assholes deprive you of the entertainment and friendship of the non-assholes, and pretty soon, the assholes WILL outnumber the non-assholes, if this keeps happening (losing the non-assholes, I mean). But I kinda understand. Be well. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/30 "2007-09-10T21:03:51Z")
C’mon, stay a while longer. I got some good stuff I ain’t cooked up yet. Been really busy with meatlife. Plus, GQ is pretty awesome right now:“[Could You Make a Viable Stellar System From Jelly Tots](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=435896)?” yielded this: > [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > Whatever lifeform develops, it’ll be really out of shape. A great question from a Guest which gets me thinking of the days before Pay To Post. Don’t you agree that’s the single biggest problem with the place? ---
**Author:** ![Busy\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Busy\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Busy_Scissors)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/31 "2007-09-10T21:14:37Z")
Just give the site a miss for six months. You can easily re-join if you find yourself coming back to it - let’s face it gen q is pretty helpful, its only a matter of time before you need to know what was the mean and median weight of a camel’s ballsack in 1982. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/32 "2007-09-10T21:16:54Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] Of course you could have skipped some of the general insults in your op, but oh well. 😉 [/QUOTE] Well, it was only an insult if it applied to you. > [@Swampwolf](#): > > It’s part of who we are. We’re right, and we don’t care whose feelings are hurt when we prove it. But it’s not real life. It’s just a computer. We’re not even real, just pixels on a screen. If what gets said here gets under your skin so easily, Ya see, there seems to be more that annoys than that entertains. Why would I pay for that? And the ‘mom’s basement thing’ is only effective if it applies. **Storyteller0910** , you calling me insane was all in good fun. And I don’t know if I told you or not, but as far as that game goes - Well played sir - Well played. But more of an example of the type of behavior that I don’t like is that of Queuing from the same game. I really thought his behavior was just playing a role, but he was genuinely being a dick at the end. As far as the rest of you well-wishers, thanks for the …erm…well wishes? I’ll still stop in and lurk now and again. Maybe if things calm down at work and I get a little more idle interent time … who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/33 "2007-09-10T21:23:24Z")
**brewha** –you are making a mistake. If you leave here, you venture into a cyberverse of loons who jabber in l33tsp33k & think the Nigerian Scam is legit. You will never find a better place online. And I mean it. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/34 "2007-09-10T21:25:25Z")
Take care, **brewha**. If you miss us, you’re always welcome back. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/35 "2007-09-10T21:28:19Z")
[QUOTE=brewha] The people have gotten to be less fun on here. It wasn’t that long ago that I would, at least once a day, set at my desk stifling giggles and wiping tears from my eyes - just completely entertained by threads. Now it seems that everyone’s turned into assholes (obviously not everyone, but more than not). Every new thread that is a not widely accepted idea like “Bush Sucks” is ridiculed and everyone takes turns trying to prove that they are smarter or that their dicks are bigger. There is no one definitive post or thread that explains what I mean. It is an overall attitude change that seems to have happened here. [/QUOTE] I agree that it’s futile - mine is by far the biggest - no argument is necessary. Seriously though… I’ve been sort of noticing the kinds of changes you mention myself, but without ever having been able to quite put my finger on it. I don’t know where we’re headed, really. So long, **brewha** and best of luck. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/36 "2007-09-10T21:28:50Z")
Good Luck! I recognize your name but I can’t recall specifically much about you, but I seem to have a generally positive memory of some of your posts. Don’t be afraid to come back some day. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/37 "2007-09-10T21:33:42Z")
There was a Doper named **brewha**? Sorry, I seem to have missed you. Good luck in all future endeavors, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/38 "2007-09-10T21:34:35Z")
I do know how tou feel. I let my charter membership pass\*, with an off hand comment in some thread and then just stayed away. It was not withdrawal that got me back. It’s just that this is the place where I can interact about **Buffy, Highsmith, American Idol, Eco, Stan Lee, Süsskind, LZ** _and ask_ stupid questions (in **GQ** ) about stuff I don’t get. All in all, finding someone who enjoys Pterry and AI in one place makes all the problems mentioned in your OP… less important. I got back, and while the things that bugged me, and continue to bug me, are stll here, the cost-benefit ratio will make me pay next year too, should the new management decide to foot the bill. Maybe we can even get a semi-new version of vB. - The whole debacle about the Admin Who Can Do No Wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/39 "2007-09-10T21:35:55Z")
Fine, go! I’ll just stay and die! One day, I’ll be dead and you’ll be sorry! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691/40 "2007-09-10T21:36:41Z")
[QUOTE=Mangetout] I agree that it’s futile - mine is by far the biggest - no argument is necessary. [/QUOTE] Only because I’ve retired from professional competition, though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-bid-the-dope-adieu/418691.md?page=3)