# In which I pit people who don't leave eBay feedback (mild, lame) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2005, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591 "2005-02-11T15:38:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/1 "2005-02-11T15:38:36Z")
Whats with these people? I left feedback for them when they paid for my item really fast, I shipped and got it to them within a couple of days, whats the problem? Are you not happy with it? Email me and tell me!! Maybe we can work something out. I can see this happening if I am buying something from a store with 10,000 positive feedbacks; they may not have time for little ol’ me. But when I sell things to people with a rating of 10, I find it hard to believe they don’t have time!! Blast!! I’ve been stuck with a feedback rating of 98 (100% positive) for my last 5 transactions!! 4 of them were sales!. A pox on non-feedback leavers! ---
**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/2 "2005-02-11T15:47:25Z")
I forgot to mention that [I have left](http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackMemberLeft&memberid=nvg-direct) 117 feedbacks!!! I’m short by 19!! ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/3 "2005-02-11T16:03:56Z")
> [@CynicalGabe](#): > > I forgot to mention that [I have left](http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackMemberLeft&memberid=nvg-direct) > > 117 feedbacks!!! > > I’m short by 19!! My eBay feedback is 1313. I have received a total of 1450 positives, but I have a few repeat customers. I have left 1910 positive feebacks for others. So relax, **Gabe** , it only gets worse. ---
**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/4 "2005-02-11T16:20:13Z")
My name is essvee, and I , um, don’t leave feedback. I don’t have a good reason; I just don’t. I have 14 feedbacks, but I only buy CDs, and I have a lot of repeat vendors. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/5 "2005-02-11T17:23:18Z")
Oh, it’s a nasty cycle out there now. A small group of disgruntled sellers have taken over the Feedback board, and are telling every newbie seller it is stupid to do anything but leave FB second- so that the seller can retaliate against a buyer who leaves a NEG FB\*. They all claim to be super-duper sellers, but all hide behind posting ID’s- and could even be the same person. If anyone dares to disagree with them, they harrass & ridicule that person- and for some reason eBay ignores this. The other part of the cycle comes when a buyer such as myself either: 1. Reads those threads and decideds never to leave FB first or 2. Figure that the seller got my $$ first, thus they should leave FB first. Thus you get a thing where both sides won’t leave FB until the other one does. :rolleyes: Now, I know our OP here says he leaves FB first, and that’s great. So, after you do so- wait a bit, then send out ONE (just one) nice little follow-up email inquiry asking if “everyhing was OK?.. oh, and I left you nice FB, so I hope you’ll return the favour.” - Note that leaving retalitory FB as a seller is the _real_ stupid thing to do, as canny buyers will avoid you auctions like the plague. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/6 "2005-02-11T17:38:49Z")
You will never get feedback from everyone. Just be thankful that they paid you promptly and didn’t complain about anything. And leave positive feedback for them as soon as you receive payment, and tell them that you have done so. ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/7 "2005-02-11T17:56:07Z")
I myself just wait until the end of the month, logon and just get them done all at once. But I do get to it. Maybe give it some time? ---
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/8 "2005-02-11T17:57:32Z")
Sellers who insist on leaving their feedback last simply don’t get any feedback from me. Simple as that. I have no desperate need for feedback. That’s apart from those who have a deserved neg coming their way, obviously. I’m not detered by the threat of a retaliatory neg. ---
**Author:** ![VenusProbe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e495f1/32.png) [@VenusProbe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VenusProbe)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/9 "2005-02-11T18:05:32Z")
Dude! I feel for ya. As a seller I’ve found that there are some buyers that never leave feedback, a large number of them in the trading card section, also a large number of deadbeats that cause me to relist repeatedly. You won’t get feedback from every transaction, it’s part of doing business on ebay. As a buyer my biggest sore point is sellers not leaving feedback when the item is shipped. I’ve Paid promptly and included all the required information, you the seller should be satisfied. I will leave feedback when I receive the item. UNLESS you haven’t left any for me! I have received one of those friendly reminders from a seller, they hadn’t left me feedback yet and I explained my reasoning, they left feedback for me and I for them. ---
**Author:** ![GraphicsGal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e0b2c6/32.png) [@GraphicsGal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraphicsGal)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/10 "2005-02-11T18:16:39Z")
> [@CynicalGabe](#): > > Blast!! I’ve been stuck with a feedback rating of 98 (100% positive) for my last 5 transactions!! 4 of them were sales!. > > A pox on non-feedback leavers! I hate non-feedback leavers, too, but just ignore them. I also don’t mind a seller waiting until I, as the buyer, have left feedback. After all, the seller has no way of knowing if there will be a problem once the goods are received. When I get an item, I send an email with ARRIVED [ebay # and product], then say in the email that everything was ok (it usually is), and that I have left positive feedback and would be grateful if they would do the same. More than one seller has thanked me for letting them know I got the item; I know I appreciate the same when I am selling. Being stuck under 100 is a bitch, though. I have just a few over 100 and I didn’t think I would ever get over the hump! ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/11 "2005-02-11T18:33:04Z")
One of my friends runs a business of Magic cards through e-bay. I bought something from him once and the package came with a little card saying “thank you very much for your purchase. If you have any questions or complaints please contact me as soon as possible. If you are satisfied, I hope you will leave a positive feedback for me through e-bay as I have already done for you.” I thought it was a pretty good idea. ---
**Author:** ![Mint\_Julep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@Mint\_Julep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mint_Julep)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/12 "2005-02-11T18:49:44Z")
I agree with **Enderw24**. I have only ordered one item from ebay back in 2000 and I was so stupid, I did not really know about feedback? I do now and I would fully take advantage of it in what ever form was applicable. But I kind do feel bad about not leaving any for that purchase. I was thrilled with the service/goods…just kinda uninformed at the time. ---
**Author:** ![galt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@galt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galt)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2005, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/13 "2005-02-12T03:06:59Z")
A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++!!!GREAT SELLAR!!!LOLOL! I don’t leave positive feedback. And if you get mad at me about it, I’ll think you’re a dumbass. The best feedback I could ever honestly give would be something along the lines of, “seller sent me what I paid for.” How am I supposed to know whether he did a fantastic job of that or not? No negative feedback == everything went ok. I also do not sign web guestbooks. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2005, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/14 "2005-02-12T03:48:42Z")
I don’t leave feedback. You know why? Because I don’t fucking care about it. You can not leave me feedback for all I care. Whoop de fucking do. ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2005, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/15 "2005-02-12T05:34:36Z")
There have been two occasions where I chose not to leave feedback. Basically, I was annoyed with the seller but not to an extent that I thought warranted neutral or negative feedback which would may result in retaliatory feedback for me. Examples? One was poor communication (when I send an email to the seller, I expect an answer). The other seller waited 2 weeks after the auction ended to ship the items. All other occasions, I leave feedback prompty upon receiving my merchandise. I have had several occasions where the seller could not be bothered to leave feedback for me, despite the fact that I pay immediately upon receiving my winning bid email. Wouldn’t really care except a number of sellers are requiring a certain number of positive feedbacks to sell to an individual. /Ms Cyros ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2005, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/16 "2005-02-12T05:40:41Z")
> [@ParentalAdvisory](#): > > I myself just wait until the end of the month, logon and just get them done all at once. But I do get to it. Maybe give it some time? Same here. I catch up on feedback about every month or so. I once had a guy practically _stalk_ me (not really, but he was weird and obsessive) about leaving feedback. It wasn’t as if he had only a few points and he needed every one he could get—he had several hundred. What a freak. I know when I am buying something on eBay and someone has, say, over 30 or so feedbacks (100+ if it’s a really big ticket item), then they are golden as far as I am concerned. (As long as they don’t have a lot of negatives.) When they get into the multiple hundreds, it’s just gravy. Who cares about one more freakin’ point when your feedback number is really high? I mean, it’s nice to get feedback and all, but it’s not worth getting all worked up over. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2005, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/17 "2005-02-12T22:14:47Z")
I don’t sell anything on E-Bay although I have bought several items. I LOVE feedback. As a matter fact, I like to extend this to the non-virtual world as well. Whenever, I go into a store, I ask the cashier to fill out a short form describing my performance as a customer. I have gotten feedback like “operated the debit card machine better than most” and “cash payment was ready to go”. However, I once got into a fight with a Wal-Mart cashier who rated me: “A+++ Would sell again” when I knew that I deserved at least an “A+++++++++”. It was resolved within half an hour by the manager however. I always fill out my own feedback sheets for the store after I get past the cashier and post them on the notice board that they usually have. This strategy takes some work but I believe that it pays off because I have never had a store refuse to sell me something that I wanted to buy. ---
**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/18 "2005-02-12T23:27:12Z")
I suspect I am being mocked. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/19 "2005-02-13T00:34:43Z")
I think people who use eBay frequently are more in tune to the whole feedback process. I’ve never sold anything on eBay, and have bought probably less than 5 things from them. So from my standpoint, I’m in **Kyla’s** camp - I just don’t give a rip. However, because I’m online here and other places where there are heavy eBay users, I know how important it is TO THEM. So when I recently bought _Gardener’s Art Through the Ages_ I made sure I left feedback so that they wouldn’t have to get ranty about it. I’d be willing to bet that the people who don’t leave feedback are more likely to be people who just aren’t on eBay all the time to realize what a big deal you think it is. ---
**Author:** ![Tuco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tuco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuco)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591/20 "2005-02-13T11:32:24Z")
What’s the deal with this ‘I’ll leave feedback after the other person has’? Surely the seller should leave feedback after the buyer has paid, then the buyer should leave feedback after the goods have been received. If one party leaves negative feedback then the other person can reply to it, but leaving negative feedback just because the other person has would be something I would’ve done when I was 6. If the buyer pays promptly then the seller should leave +'ve FB, no matter what the buyer writes in their FB box. It’s not like FB takes a long time to write, just type something generic like ‘Goods arrived promptly and as advertised, as it should be’ once, then whenever you leave FB again just type ‘G’, click on the sentence that has magically popped up (unless you’re using IE2 or something) and press OK. It really doesn’t take that long. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-i-pit-people-who-dont-leave-ebay-feedback-mild-lame/289591.md?page=2)