# In which RFK Jr. completely loses it **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 27, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440 "2021-07-27T18:23:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/1 "2021-07-27T18:23:09Z")
There’s been plenty of evidence RFK Jr. was heading for the brink, what with episodes like his comparing vaccination to the Holocaust and then hobnobbing with pro-QAnon extremists in Germany (a group that, ironically, includes Holocaust deniers). Now he appears to be fantasizing a final solution. From a statement on the home page of AutismOne, a conference that specializes in attacks on vaccination and crank autism cures:. "We are in the last battle. This is the apocalypse. We are fighting for the salvation of humanity. We all knew this was coming at some point. I never believed it would come in my lifetime, but here it is… "We have to fight, and we have to die with our boots on if necessary. Everybody here, I’m confident, knows what their duty is and is going to do that duty, and I’m going to be beside you when you do it. > **[AutismOne Conference 2021 Virtual Portal](https://pheedloop.com/AutismOne2021Conference/site/home/)** > > Labor Day Weekend > Thursday, September 2nd - Saturday, September 4th > Thursday IN-PERSON & Live Streamed! > From > 320 Via Las Brisas, > Newbury Park/Thousand Oaks, CA > Limited In-Person Seating > Please register early to book your... Appeals like this and similar rhetoric, like when prominent antivaxer Del Bigtree called on followers to exercise their Second Amendment rights to get their way, increase the danger that the more unhinged AVers will go beyond death threats and attempts to forcibly break up Covid-19 vaccination drives and violently target prominent pro-immunization advocates.\* I hope I’m wrong. \*RFK Jr. has claimed that Anthony Fauci “poisoned an entire generation of Americans”. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/2 "2021-07-27T18:29:46Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > > "We are in the last battle. This is the apocalypse. We are fighting for the salvation of humanity. We all knew this was coming at some point. I never believed it would come in my lifetime, but here it is… It you hadn’t said this was RFK Jr, I’d have sworn it was @asahi talking. 😉 Sorry, j/k, couldn’t resist. ❤ Bobby Senior must be spinning in his grave. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/3 "2021-07-27T19:52:36Z")
If it’s necessary, I’m okay with him dying, with or without boots on. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/4 "2021-07-27T23:10:03Z")
If we could only sic the Straight Dope Mods on these miscreants! ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/5 "2021-07-27T23:13:31Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > \*RFK Jr. has claimed that Anthony Fauci “poisoned an entire generation of Americans”. Well you can’t accuse him of exaggerating that one … Fauci wants to treat the entire population which must be at least 3 generations. All hale to him. “poisoned” well everything in medicine is either a cure or a poison depending on the dosage. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/6 "2021-07-27T23:53:45Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@Jackmannii](#): > > > > > "We are in the last battle. This is the apocalypse. We are fighting for the salvation of humanity. We all knew this was coming at some point. I never believed it would come in my lifetime, but here it is… > > It you hadn’t said this was RFK Jr, I’d have sworn it was @asahi talking. 😉 Sorry, j/k, couldn’t resist. ❤ > > Bobby Senior must be spinning in his grave. Aaaaaaah! Bloody fingerprint! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/7 "2021-07-28T01:05:23Z")
You’re wishing Fauci good health? I join you in that sentiment! ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/8 "2021-07-28T01:18:43Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Aaaaaaah! Bloody fingerprint! Did you also think your screen was having display problems? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/9 "2021-07-28T01:24:36Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Aaaaaaah! Bloody fingerprint! > [@Kron](#): > > Did you also think your screen was having display problems? I hope y’all figgered it out. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/10 "2021-07-28T01:27:48Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > Did you also think your screen was having display problems? Yes, but it happened once before, so this time I figured it out much more quickly. 🍗 ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/11 "2021-07-28T01:32:13Z")
I had no idea RFK Jr was that far gone. This is a pretty good analysis: > **[The Anti-Vaccine Propaganda of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.](https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-health-pseudoscience/anti-vaccine-propaganda-robert-f-kennedy-jr)** > > Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., does not want you to think of him as an anti-vaxxer. I have yet to meet an anti-vaxxer—someone who spreads misinformation about all vaccines being harmful—who is comfortable with the label. Kennedy is not just anti-vaccine; by... ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/12 "2021-07-28T02:27:28Z")
It’s probably a good thing he’s dead, quite frankly, and doesn’t have to deal with the shame. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/13 "2021-07-28T02:36:39Z")
Other members of his family aren’t as fortunate. [https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/08/robert-kennedy-jr-measles-vaccines-226798](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/08/robert-kennedy-jr-measles-vaccines-226798) What they think of his more recent activities is probably unprintable. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/14 "2021-07-28T09:53:50Z")
> [@susan](#): > > If it’s necessary, I’m okay with him dying, with or without boots on. Sirhan Sirhan is still around. I’m just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/15 "2021-07-28T13:15:44Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Sirhan Sirhan is still around. I’m just saying. Let’s not do this please. But RFK Jr can still fuck right off. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/16 "2021-07-28T17:24:04Z")
I’ve known that RFK, Jr. is dishonest ever since his Deadly Immunity article that was published in Rolling Stone and Salon in 2005. I’ve even thought he was delusional. Until now, though, I didn’t think he was batshit crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/17 "2021-07-28T17:39:37Z")
Good article. There could have been more said about antivaxers’ attempts to exploit minorities’ fears in other settings (i.e. Samoa, where RFK Jr. went to try to sabotage a vaccination campaign in the midst of a measles outbreak, and New York City, home to poorly vaccinated, vulnerable members of some Orthodox Jewish sects). Andrew Wakefield had some success convincing Somali immigrants in Minnesota not to have their kids vaccinated with the MMR, helping increase suffering there. More on antivaxers’ sleazy attempts to stoke suspicion and fear of vaccines in minority communities: > **[Anti-vaccine leaders targeting minority becomes growing concern at NYC forum](https://abcnews.go.com/Health/rfk-jrs-york-city-vaccine-forum-highlights-concerns/story?id=66158336)** > > The anti-vaccine movement has a history of targeting minority groups, like the Orthodox Jewish community in Brooklyn and the Somali refugee community in Minnesota. Again, my main concern at this point is that RFK Jr.'s increasingly unhinged and violent rhetoric will lead to more serious violence than we’ve already seen. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/18 "2021-07-28T18:28:51Z")
Maybe he’s right. Not his words or ideas, of course. He’s an idiot. And he correctly thinks the poor and non-white will bare the brunt. But maybe we should do away with vaccines altogether. You see, this is God trying to thin the herd. And we need thinning. We are too many, using too many resources, creating too much garbage, destroying the environment. We need population reduction and we need it in a hurry. THANOS 2024!!! “Fuck half of you! At least I will be Fair!” ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/19 "2021-07-28T18:48:21Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Not his words or ideas, of course. He’s an idiot. And he correctly thinks the poor and non-white will bare the brunt. He should leave their bare brunts alone! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440/20 "2021-07-28T19:06:06Z")
There are some options here: RFJ Jr. is stone cold batshit crazy He’s doing it for the fame and notoriety He’s doing it for the money Whatever the option, it seems that he is personally responsible for thousands of deaths and untold suffering. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rfk-jr-completely-loses-it/947440.md?page=2)