# In which RTFirefly pits self for being unfair to Weirddave

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 9, 2006, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723 "2006-07-09T12:54:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/21 "2006-07-09T23:20:07Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> Sadly, I’ve committed editing in the past and feel so little remorse I’m planning to do it again.
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> As for writing, the WSJ will do that to you. It’s part of their contract.
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> But the worst is selling advertising. Trust me on this one.

“Writing is not necessarily something to be ashamed of, so long as you do it in private and wash your hands afterwards.”

– Lazarus Long

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/22 "2006-07-09T23:29:44Z")

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Oh fuck that, he’s pouring out his heart about newshole and you offer a masturbatory reference from Heinlein? Now you’re just being rude.

Think about what you’ve done, fellow.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/23 "2006-07-09T23:37:23Z")

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> [@El Cid Viscoso](#):
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> Oh fuck that, he’s pouring out his heart about newshole and you offer a masturbatory reference from Heinlein? Now you’re just being rude.
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> Think about what you’ve done, fellow.

I repent myself in dust and ashes! ☹

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2006, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/24 "2006-07-09T23:55:20Z")

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I’m not even sure what the at-heart issue was, though I’ve tried to puzzle it out - it’s been lost as overinflated egos crash together like asteroids.  
Something about Lieberman, Clinton, Gore, Perot, Taft, Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/25 "2006-07-10T00:10:44Z")

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‘newshole’?

Wasn’t that in Transmetropolitan?

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**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/26 "2006-07-10T00:35:01Z")

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Funny, what you described as a acknowledgement and correction of a factual error struck me as **WeirdDave** being snide, condescending, and evasive.

Must be one of those tomato/tomahto things…

And because I’m so old and out of touch, can someone please define a “MAD” (presumably \*not \* Mutually Assured Destruction in this case) and/or a “newshole” for me?

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/27 "2006-07-10T00:53:17Z")

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Newshole = the area in a newspaper not occupied by ads. Editors fill this empty space with reporters’ articles.

As for MAD, ask punha. I would’ve thought Maryland, but I’m probably biased.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/28 "2006-07-10T02:00:59Z")

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> [@El Cid Viscoso](#):
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> As for MAD, ask punha. I would’ve thought Maryland, but I’m probably biased.

**M** id- **A** tlantic **D** per. Those of us who occupy the great wasteland between New England and the South. **RTFirefly, Wierddave, iampunha** , myself and many more are of this cheerful group. Well, usually cheerful.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/29 "2006-07-10T02:02:05Z")

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D_o_per… :smack:

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**Author:** ![Rhubarb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@Rhubarb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhubarb)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/30 "2006-07-10T02:14:54Z")

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From context, I assumed **MAD** stood for **M** iddle- **A** ged **D** oper, although the Mid-American or Mid-Atlantic ideas also crossed my mind.  
OIK\*

\*[sub]Only Iampunha Knows[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Rhubarb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/59ef9b/32.png) [@Rhubarb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhubarb)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/31 "2006-07-10T02:16:41Z")

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> [@Rhubarb](#):
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> From context, I assumed **MAD** stood for **M** iddle- **A** ged **D** oper, although the Mid-American or Mid-Atlantic ideas also crossed my mind.  
> OIK\*
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> \*[sub]Only Iampunha Knows[/sub]

oops! sorry for the extraneous capitalization of your username.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/32 "2006-07-10T02:36:26Z")

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_ahem_

“MAD” to stand for Mid-Atlantic Doper was coined by moi for one of my parties.

Let’s not let Patrick get his head too big.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/33 "2006-07-10T03:24:38Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> _ahem_
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> “MAD” to stand for Mid-Atlantic Doper was coined by moi for one of my parties.
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> Let’s not let Patrick get his head too big.

You sure she came up with it? I could’ve sworn it was your neologism.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/34 "2006-07-10T03:52:07Z")

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Couldn’t you just have posted in that thread: “Hey Weirdave, I overreacted, and was wrong. Sorry, dude.” It’s nice that you aknowledge this, and mature on your part. But:

Self-Pittings are _so_ lame.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/35 "2006-07-10T07:46:32Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> _ahem_
> 
> “MAD” to stand for Mid-Atlantic Doper was coined by moi for one of my parties.
> 
> Let’s not let Patrick get his head too big.

And I woulda gotten away with it, too, if it wasn’t for you middle-aged dopers and your dog!

(Rhubarb, I’m 24, which is not _quite_ yet to middleagedomhoodnesstion.)

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/36 "2006-07-10T08:00:43Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Couldn’t you just have posted in that thread: “Hey Weirdave, I overreacted, and was wrong. Sorry, dude.” It’s nice that you aknowledge this, and mature on your part. But:
> 
> Self-Pittings are _so_ lame.

Now, either you’ve been whooshed, or you’re whooshing me with a whoosh so good I’ve got no hair left on top of my head.

Either way, someone needs banning for it. 😃

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/37 "2006-07-10T09:51:19Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> You sure she came up with it? I could’ve sworn it was your neologism.

Sweet!

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/38 "2006-07-10T13:51:42Z")

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D’oh!

Though with that dress (you know the one, Kim) I’d likely sign away my authorship rights.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/39 "2006-07-10T14:47:19Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> Let’s not let Patrick get his head too big.

Way too late for that, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-rtfirefly-pits-self-for-being-unfair-to-weirddave/363723/40 "2006-07-10T15:55:06Z")

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Who the fuck is Kim?

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