# In which Steophan hijacks an ATMB thread about misogyny by accusing Blasey Ford of false accusation **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 18, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610 "2019-11-18T13:07:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/241 "2019-11-22T15:23:26Z")
Ford’s case was so weak that that her supporters engaged in witness tampering by trying to pressure Leland Keyser into making false statements. Her son started a GoFund Me campaign for his mother because of the devastation caused by Ford. Why hasn’t Christine Blasey Ford come to the aid of her lifelong friend? Why hasn’t she called off the deranged SJWs? “The person with the most to lose and the least to gain for telling the truth about Kavanaugh may have been Leland Ingham Keyser, who put her commitment to the truth above her political preferences and even friendships.” ~ Justice on Trial: The Kavanaugh Confirmation and the Future of the Supreme Court "Nearly a year after Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, most have moved on. But for one of the key players in that fight, Leland Keyser, the struggle continues. Despite her lifelong friendship with Christine Blasey Ford and her opposition to Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination, Keyser resisted immense personal pressure and courageously came forward with the truth, putting everything in her life at risk. As a result, she faces great personal hardship. The harsh glare of the public eye has taken a tremendous physical, emotional, and financial toll on her. The purpose of this GoFundMe is to help her deal with mounting medical and legal bills and to help redress the many grievances she faces as a result of her commitment to principle and the law. Leland stood up and did what was right when she had everything to lose and nothing to gain. Now it is our turn to stand up and help her in return. " > **[Help Leland Keyser, organized by Alex Beckel](https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-leland-keyser)** > > “The person with the most to lose and the least to gain for telling the truth about Kavanaugh may have … Alex Beckel needs your support for Help Leland Keyser ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/242 "2019-11-22T15:23:46Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > “No u” would have saved you some typing. > At least you have learned not to ask for cites that you don’t read. > > Regards, > Shodan Breaking news! Chickenshit Shodan still refuses to apologize for one of the nastiest things ever said on the Dope. Instead, he acuses other posters of not having read cites, because they don’t agree with his obtuse reading of the fact in such a way to be as charitable as possible to white killers and as hostile as possible to blacks. Chickenshit Shodan still maintains this has nothing to do with race, but it only takes a 3rd grade reading level to discern his lies. ShodanWatch 2019 will continue to cover this thread until Chickenshit Shodan apologizes, or the heat death of the universe, whichever comes first. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/243 "2019-11-22T15:26:55Z")
(Just kidding-- I think it has been solidly established that Shodan is too chickenshit to ever apologize, so coverage will end here) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/244 "2019-11-22T15:41:54Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Probably one of the nastiest things I’ve ever read on this board. > > You really are a special kind of cunt aren’t you Shodan? > > Just shameful. Perhaps I should have said something like [take my advice and up yer’ meds sweetheart.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13572652&postcount=170)🙂 instead of [Seriously, do you suffer from a mental illness? If so, say so and I will back off](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13569744&postcount=57). Neither got much of a substantive response, of course. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/245 "2019-11-22T15:44:50Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Breaking news! Chickenshit Shodan still refuses to apologize for one of the nastiest things ever said on the Dope. Instead, he acuses other posters of not having read cites, because they don’t agree with his obtuse reading of the fact in such a way to be as charitable as possible to white killers and as hostile as possible to blacks. Chickenshit Shodan still maintains this has nothing to do with race, but it only takes a 3rd grade reading level to discern his lies. > > ShodanWatch 2019 will continue to cover this thread until Chickenshit Shodan apologizes, or the heat death of the universe, whichever comes first. This is also longer than “no u”. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/246 "2019-11-22T15:50:36Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Perhaps I should have said something like [take my advice and up yer’ meds sweetheart.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13572652&postcount=170)🙂 instead of [Seriously, do you suffer from a mental illness? If so, say so and I will back off](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13569744&postcount=57). > > Neither got much of a substantive response, of course. > > Regards, > Shodan This is evidence of what, exactly? In 2011, you started a Pit thread to tell margin she should triple her meds. So you’re what? Consistent? Congratulations? ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/247 "2019-11-22T15:51:14Z")
And he thinks those links make him look better… ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/248 "2019-11-22T15:52:31Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Perhaps I should have said something like [take my advice and up yer’ meds sweetheart.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13572652&postcount=170)🙂 instead of [Seriously, do you suffer from a mental illness? If so, say so and I will back off](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13569744&postcount=57). > > Neither got much of a substantive response, of course. > > Regards, > Shodan So you admit to knowing, since 2011, that Margin is a veteran and that this affected her mental health; yet you’ve been a jerk about it for the last 8 years at least. You really ARE the perfect shitsipper. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/249 "2019-11-22T15:52:50Z")
Shodan is apparently a very unkind and dishonorable person. That’s a shame. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/250 "2019-11-22T15:53:43Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > This is also longer than “no u”. > > Regards, > Shodan Ok, boomer. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/251 "2019-11-22T16:00:00Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > At least you have learned not to ask for cites that you don’t read. Actually I did ask for a cite, but I’m sure that won’t stop you from being lazy and dishonest. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/252 "2019-11-22T16:29:31Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > This is evidence of what, exactly? In 2011, you started a Pit thread to tell margin she should triple her meds. So you’re what? Consistent? Congratulations? Just out of curiosity, did you notice [list=A][li]who I addressed in the post, [_]who was referenced in the first cite, [_]Who was referenced in the second cite, and [\*]What each cite actually said?[/list][/li][quote=iiandyiiii] Actually I did ask for a cite, but I’m sure that won’t stop you from being lazy and dishonest. [/quote] So when you said you weren’t going to ask for a cite, you were asking for a cite. And I am being lazy and dishonest when I didn’t provide the cite you weren’t going to ask for when you did. And you don’t engage with me, except to not ask for cites that you want not to read. Okay then! Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/253 "2019-11-22T16:31:13Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Just out of curiosity, did you notice [list=A][li]who I addressed in the post, [_]who was referenced in the first cite, [_]Who was referenced in the second cite, and [\*]What each cite actually said?[/list]So when you said you weren’t going to ask for a cite, you were asking for a cite. And I am being lazy and dishonest when I didn’t provide the cite you weren’t going to ask for when you did. And you don’t engage with me, except to not ask for cites that you want not to read.[/li] > Okay then! > > Regards, > Shodan I read the linked Pit thread, where you claim Margin is insane because she wouldn’t join you in slut shaming an 11 year old girl who was gang raped. You sick son of a bitch. Still disgusted by Shodan’s misogyny, Babale ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/254 "2019-11-22T16:32:40Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Just out of curiosity, did you notice [list=A][li]who I addressed in the post, [_]who was referenced in the first cite, [_]Who was referenced in the second cite, and [\*]What each cite actually said?[/list]So when you said you weren’t going to ask for a cite, you were asking for a cite. And I am being lazy and dishonest when I didn’t provide the cite you weren’t going to ask for when you did. And you don’t engage with me, except to not ask for cites that you want not to read.[/li] > Okay then! > > Regards, > Shodan Yep, looked at the post you linked to and the post you started with. margin didn’t choose to have PTSD. You gratuitously choose to inflict pain on someone you know to be in it. That’s cruelty. And you embrace it. I started an ATMB thread about it. I don’t expect it to go anywhere but I want to know how low a person such as yourself can go and expect to get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/255 "2019-11-22T16:39:09Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > So when you said you weren’t going to ask for a cite This didn’t happen – I did actually ask for a cite. And here, I’ll do it again – cite for your claim that Ramirez AND Swetnick retracted their allegations? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/256 "2019-11-22T16:54:46Z")
[quote=“Shodan, post:252, topic:843610”] Just out of curiosity, did you notice [list=A][li]who I addressed in the post, [_]who was referenced in the first cite, [_]Who was referenced in the second cite, and What each cite actually said?[/list][/li][/QUOTE] As a bit of friendly advice, I suggest that you clearly and unambiguously state whether or not you knew of **margin** ’s battle with and treatment for PTSD before you asked her what it was like in the psych ward. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/257 "2019-11-22T16:56:59Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > As a bit of friendly advice, I suggest that you clearly and unambiguously state whether or not you knew of **margin** ’s battle with and treatment for PTSD before you asked her what it was like in the psych ward. I think his link conclusively shows that he DID know this. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/258 "2019-11-22T16:59:59Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I think his link conclusively shows that he DID know this. I don’t believe anywhere in the thread that was linked did \*\*margin \*\*mention she had PTSD. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/259 "2019-11-22T17:00:06Z")
**Shodan** , leaving aside your purposely obtuse and inanely disingenuous “responses” to my attempt to get you to acknowledge the bare minimum of reality, . . . > [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > That is repugnant, **Shodan**. > And you came back to make vacuous remarks on the Zimmerman case, but didn’t address this!? > > **Don’t even bother to respond to my questions until you’ve apologized to margin**. Instead of apologizing like a halfway decent person would do, you’ve chosen to double down on the douchery. Nothing if not true to form. There was a time I thought you were at least a little better than the likes of Clothahump, but I see now I was mistaken. It baffles me how you can be so gleefully vile. Screw it. I’m done with you. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/260 "2019-11-22T17:03:10Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I don’t believe anywhere in the thread that was linked did \*\*margin \*\*mention she had PTSD. Margin says he knows. And that he’s known for years. And that he’s made these sorts of remarks to her for years, both on and off this board. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610.md?page=14)