# In which Steophan hijacks an ATMB thread about misogyny by accusing Blasey Ford of false accusation **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 18, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610 "2019-11-18T13:07:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/141 "2019-11-21T18:11:05Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > I would say you are correct - but the alleged attacker’s claim it didn’t happen is just as much evidence in the opposite direction. Of course. But I’m not the one who said there was no evidence of Ford’s claim. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/142 "2019-11-21T18:16:28Z")
> [@margin](#): > > I love the idea that weed makes you dangerous. To who? Doritos? "“I have never seen two people on weed fight, because it’s fucking IMPOSSIBLE. “Oi, \*\*buddy \*\*!” “Hey, what ?” “Hey…hey ?” “Hey.” end of argument.” - Bill Hicks ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/143 "2019-11-21T18:18:12Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Zimmerman’s injuries had Martin’s DNA in and around them? (seriously asking, I don’t know) That’s a fair point, there could have been a third party there that bashed Zimmerman’s head onto the ground. It’s equally likely that a third party killed Zimmerman. It would be possible to make the claim that Martin was defending himself, although I don’t believe that fits the facts. I don’t think it’s reasonable to claim that Martin didn’t use force on Zimmerman. Also, the only injuries of any sort to Martin other than the gunshot were slight marks on his hands consistent with hitting or shoving someone, there were no signs he’s been struck. This, of course, would be nowhere near enough to convict Martin of assault were things to have been different. They do provide some evidence that he attacked Zimmerman, whereas there’s no actual evidence that Zimmerman attacked or threatened Martin, that is all pure speculation. To claim that Zimmerman wasn’t defending himself requires ignoring some evidence, and also making unsupported assumptions. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/144 "2019-11-21T18:21:31Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Of course. But I’m not the one who said there was no evidence of Ford’s claim. There is no evidence to support Ford’s claim. There is a lot of evidence to support Kavanaugh’s denial. You know well that’s what **Shodan** was claiming. I could accuse you of being a Martian. In any normal communication, that is not evidence that you are a Martian. In certain circumstances, it could be reason to start an investigation. As Ford, to my knowledge, still hasn’t reported Kavanaugh to the police, so in her case those circumstamces aren’t there. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/145 "2019-11-21T18:25:25Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > IANAL either, but you are confusing evidence with allegations. No one in their right mind (meaning people who are not like **Babale** and **iiandyiiii** ) would say that a claim establishes itself. Cite that I said this? Or does your claim that I say this establish itself? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/146 "2019-11-21T18:31:47Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Martin was at or near the door of his uncles house at one point, then confronted Zimmerman further away from it, based on what Martin said to his friend on the phone and where the fight happened. This is false. What Martin said while on the phone was, > [@](#): > > JEANTEL: He said no, he`s almost right by his daddy fiancee`s house… That does NOT mean he was “at or near the door of his uncles house”, it means he was “almost right by his […] house”. I would certainly think that [a few doors down, right down the street from the house](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin_map.png) qualifies. IE, he could have said that right at the spot where he was shot and killed, no doubling back necessary. > [@](#): > > It was a private, gated community of which Martin was not a resident but a guest, and that’s a good enough reason for someone who is a resident to ask why they are there. That’s ridiculous. Is George Zimmerman stopping every single person who entered the neighborhood? No, of course not. That would be ridiculous. Is it a coincidence that the person he DOES stop is a young black man? Suuuuuure. > [@](#): > > The race of neither man is relevant. That Martin injured Zimmerman, however, is extremely relevant, and justifies Zimmerman’s shooting of him. If Martin had bashed Zimmerman’s head against the concrete hard enough to kill him, he would have been “standing his ground” against an armed assailant who had tracked him down. I, in Martin’s situation, would have hung up with my friend and called 911 as soon as I realized that Zimmerman was following me; but had I been in the situation that Martin found himself in, I too would have fought back with as much force as I could. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/147 "2019-11-21T18:37:08Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > To claim that Zimmerman wasn’t defending himself requires ignoring some evidence, and also making unsupported assumptions. My point is, the only evidence that you have that Martin caused the wounds to Zimmerman is that “Zimmerman said” Yet, you believe it. Similarly, the only evidence you have that teenagers pointed a gun at Michael Dunn is that “Michael Dunn said” Yet, you also believe that. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/148 "2019-11-21T18:38:55Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > There is no evidence to support Ford’s claim. There is a lot of evidence to support Kavanaugh’s denial. You know well that’s what **Shodan** was claiming. > > I could accuse you of being a Martian. In any normal communication, that is not evidence that you are a Martian. In certain circumstances, it could be reason to start an investigation. As Ford, to my knowledge, still hasn’t reported Kavanaugh to the police, so in her case those circumstamces aren’t there. It’s not a crime to be a Martian. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/149 "2019-11-21T18:40:26Z")
Following someone and asking them what they’re doing is neither illegal nor an imminent threat of harm. Being armed is a basic constitutional right in the US. They do not give someone the right to use force on someone, as they are not being threatened. For that matter, racially profiling someone isn’t justification for violence, even if that is what happened. But there is precisely no evidence that happened. Martin had the choice to answer Zimmerman or ignore him. Tragically, he chose to do neither of those, but to attack him. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/150 "2019-11-21T18:42:33Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > My point is, the only evidence that you have that Martin caused the wounds to Zimmerman is that “Zimmerman said” > > Yet, you believe it. No, that’s not the case. Circumstantial evidence is real evidence, and is admissable in court. Martin is the only person that it’s reasonable to believe injured Zimmerman. If you have evidence to the contrary, it’s a shame you didn’t let the prosecution know, but feel free to share it now. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/151 "2019-11-21T18:43:41Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > IANAL either, but you are confusing evidence with allegations. No one in their right mind (meaning people who are not like **Babale** and **iiandyiiii** ) would say that a claim establishes itself. > > Evidence would be more like if Ford said that five other people were there, including her best friend at the time, and all or some of them confirmed it. None of them did, so no evidence in favor of Ford’s story - the opposite, in fact. > > And again, it is hard to have evidence about something when even the one making the accusation isn’t sure when or where it happened. > > Regards, > Shodan > > PS - hi, **margin** - seems like you were gone for a while - welcome back! What’s it like in the psych ward - did you make friends there? If anyone wants the measure of what passes for Shodan’s “character” here it is. He KNOWS I’m a veteran, knows I’m a _combat_ veteran, knows that I do in fact have PTSD from Iraq, and this is how he treats that knowledge. I have in fact checked myself into a locked facility. I hear voices telling me to kill myself. I have hallucinations of smoke and burning metal and the smell of cordite and that particular smell of Army canvas and rubber, the smell of a gas mask. I have in fact tried to kill myself because the nightmares caused me to stop sleeping. I am only one veteran of many in that regard. I can count on the fingers of one hands the nights I have had without nightmares in a decade. I have flashbacks involving snipers pinning down my convoy from the rooftops. I have panic attacks in vehicles thanks to IEDs. Thanks to the VA’s oh-so-Shodan-esque mindset of “Women aren’t in combat,” I went years without help. I had video and a medal citation describing how my position had been over-run. My squad had left the base one morning early on in our deployment, gotten ambushed in the city, and spent a day and a night and part of the next day fighting house to house. The entire base listened in on the radio as we requested air strikes and reinforcement and ammunition after being surrounded by insurgents. The insurgents gave a safe conduct promise to the QRF and then attacked them —and we had to watch it happen. We stopped asking after that. Shodan knows just about all of this. He will, of course, lie about this. What he won’t tell you is that he has been smarmily attacking liberal women this evilly for decades. He has not changed. He’s only gotten worse. Shodan hates women and believes us all to be liars. He is slightly less venomous with liberal men, but this is his character, right here. Am I to believe that Shodan’s behavior is acceptable to conservatives? Then come take out your trash or it will be hung round your neck for good. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/152 "2019-11-21T18:46:25Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Martin did not “turn back”, where Martin’s body was found disproves Zimmerman’s testimony, Martin was on an alley behind the house he was living at so saying he was on private property is disengenous. Finally, Zimmerman had no reason to stop him, other than his race, and he certainly had no reason to kill him. Zimmerman was also explicitly told by actual cops to back off, but instead he went after Martin. He had something of a reputation for that kind of thing, if I remember. Want a be cop. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/153 "2019-11-21T18:48:31Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > Following someone and asking them what they’re doing is neither illegal nor an imminent threat of harm. Being armed is a basic constitutional right in the US. They do not give someone the right to use force on someone, as they are not being threatened. This is untrue. Depending on the circumstances, “following someone and asking them what they’re doing” could certainly qualify as one of any number of crimes, for example it could qualify as “menacing”. > [@](#): > > For that matter, racially profiling someone isn’t justification for violence, even if that is what happened. But there is precisely no evidence that happened. No, but as a black man living in a country and state where black men have often been the target of “vigilante justice” while being guilty of no crime, it is very understandable why he may have been spooked. > [@](#): > > Martin had the choice to answer Zimmerman or ignore him. Tragically, he chose to do neither of those, but to attack him. Cite? Do you have any evidence whatsoever that Martin wasn’t feeling threatened, for example because Zimmerman brandished the gun at him, as he would do to his girlfriend on Nov 18, 2013? Zimmerman has a long history of violence, such as when he attacked another girlfriend on Jan 9, 2015 with a wine bottle, or on Nov 9, 2016 when he started yelling at a waitress until the cops were called to escort him off the premises, at which point he told the police officer removing him that he “didn’t know he were a [N Word] lover”. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/154 "2019-11-21T18:51:44Z")
> [@margin](#): > > If anyone wants the measure of what passes for Shodan’s “character” here it is. He KNOWS I’m a veteran, knows I’m a _combat_ veteran, knows that I do in fact have PTSD from Iraq, and this is how he treats that knowledge. > > I have in fact checked myself into a locked facility. I hear voices telling me to kill myself. I have hallucinations of smoke and burning metal and the smell of cordite and that particular smell of Army canvas and rubber, the smell of a gas mask. I have in fact tried to kill myself because the nightmares caused me to stop sleeping. I am only one veteran of many in that regard. I can count on the fingers of one hands the nights I have had without nightmares in a decade. I have flashbacks involving snipers pinning down my convoy from the rooftops. I have panic attacks in vehicles thanks to IEDs. Thanks to the VA’s oh-so-Shodan-esque mindset of “Women aren’t in combat,” I went years without help. I had video and a medal citation describing how my position had been over-run. My squad had left the base one morning early on in our deployment, gotten ambushed in the city, and spent a day and a night and part of the next day fighting house to house. The entire base listened in on the radio as we requested air strikes and reinforcement and ammunition after being surrounded by insurgents. The insurgents gave a safe conduct promise to the QRF and then attacked them —and we had to watch it happen. We stopped asking after that. > > Shodan knows just about all of this. > > He will, of course, lie about this. > > What he won’t tell you is that he has been smarmily attacking liberal women this evilly for decades. He has not changed. He’s only gotten worse. > > Shodan hates women and believes us all to be liars. He is slightly less venomous with liberal men, but this is his character, right here. > > Am I to believe that Shodan’s behavior is acceptable to conservatives? Then come take out your trash or it will be hung round your neck for good. I am quoting this post because, to be honest, I am shocked. I have always considered Shodan to be one of the “good” conservatives – we might disagree about this issue or another, but at least he posts in good faith. But ever since our interaction in the Zimmerman thread, I have realized that he is dishonest, and this behavior is just beyond the pale. Some things go too far, even for the pit. I don’t think he needs to be modded for these comments, necessarily, but he should certainly be shunned for them. There’s a limit to decency – and comments about another poster’s mental health are just beyond the pale. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/155 "2019-11-21T18:53:00Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > No, that’s not the case. Circumstantial evidence is real evidence, and is admissable in court. Martin is the only person that it’s reasonable to believe injured Zimmerman. > > If you have evidence to the contrary, it’s a shame you didn’t let the prosecution know, but feel free to share it now. So, how come Ford’s circumstantial evidence is not real evidence and should be tossed out? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/156 "2019-11-21T19:29:36Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I am quoting this post because, to be honest, I am shocked. I have always considered Shodan to be one of the “good” conservatives – we might disagree about this issue or another, but at least he posts in good faith. But ever since our interaction in the Zimmerman thread, I have realized that he is dishonest, and this behavior is just beyond the pale. > > Some things go too far, even for the pit. I don’t think he needs to be modded for these comments, necessarily, but he should certainly be shunned for them. There’s a limit to decency – and comments about another poster’s mental health are just beyond the pale. Shodan is not joking, because he knows that I am a veteran who does, in fact, have PTSD, and he has known this for _years_ He reminds me of **another** Trumpie conservative I know, who first accused me of lying about combat, because women were not officially “allowed” in combat till some entirely-arbitrary date (when in fact we have been fighting since at least Desert Storm) , and then, as an alternative, suggested that I had had some kind of sex change operation? Or was in fact a man pretending to be a woman, which meant my complaints of sexism were invalid? In any event, it was a perfect example of just _how_ bad the bad faith of conservative men goes, when faced with women. Keep in mind, this is a second person, another conservative man, linked by the identical mindset and tactics. Women in the military make conservative men drop the civility facade very fast. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/157 "2019-11-21T19:41:34Z")
> [@margin](#): > > Shodan is not joking, because he knows that I am a veteran who does, in fact, have PTSD, and he has known this for _years_ > > He reminds me of **another** Trumpie conservative I know, who first accused me of lying about combat, because women were not officially “allowed” in combat till some entirely-arbitrary date (when in fact we have been fighting since at least Desert Storm) , and then, as an alternative, suggested that I had had some kind of sex change operation? Or was in fact a man pretending to be a woman, which meant my complaints of sexism were invalid? > > In any event, it was a perfect example of just _how_ bad the bad faith of conservative men goes, when faced with women. Keep in mind, this is a second person, another conservative man, linked by the identical mindset and tactics. Women in the military make conservative men drop the civility facade very fast. I made a few attempts at a good response to this, but none of them really expressed what I wanted to say. I truly have no words. All I can say is, I am so, so sorry that this is how you, a person who has sacrificed and suffered for our country, is being treated. By anyone, regardless of the politics involved. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/158 "2019-11-21T19:42:36Z")
> [@margin](#): > > Shodan is not joking, because he knows that I am a veteran who does, in fact, have PTSD, and he has known this for _years_ How does he know you have PTSD? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/159 "2019-11-21T19:48:30Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Cite? Do you have any evidence whatsoever that Martin wasn’t feeling threatened, for example because Zimmerman brandished the gun at him, as he would do to his girlfriend on Nov 18, 2013? I think we’ve covered this. If Zimmerman was brandishing a gun at Martin, causing Martin to feel threatened, why did Zimmerman wait for more than a minute and allow Martin to break his nose, blacken his eyes, and smash his head into the ground? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610/160 "2019-11-21T19:51:41Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I think we’ve covered this. If Zimmerman was brandishing a gun at Martin, causing Martin to feel threatened, why did Zimmerman wait for more than a minute and allow Martin to break his nose, blacken his eyes, and smash his head into the ground? > > Regards, > Shodan Right, so we are back to the “the savage black, his rage fueled by mary–joo–ana, was overcome by bloodlust and attacked Zimmerman unprovoked” theory. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-steophan-hijacks-an-atmb-thread-about-misogyny-by-accusing-blasey-ford-of-false-accusation/843610.md?page=9)