# In which Teflon Don hands NBC's Katy Tur her ass and she likes it **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 23, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006 "2015-07-23T23:16:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/21 "2015-07-24T06:58:41Z")
> [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > No, [it’s _Katy_ Tur.](https://twitter.com/katyturnbc) Are you sure it’s not [Kara Tur](http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/a/ac/Karaturbox.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080616112746)? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/22 "2015-07-24T07:15:22Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Just finished watching [NBC’s unedited interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-DSfvYCKwY) with Donald Trump, which took place on July 8th in Trump Tower. I didn’t see the original interview on NBC but I doubt very seriously that it wasn’t edited to pieces. Trump just steamrolls this poor woman all through the interview (at one point even saying to her “I know, you’re sitting here like this great reporter and blah, blah, blah”), and then at around 26 1/2 minutes while they’re wrapping up she weakly tries to save face by telling him it’s fun when he zings her. > > It’s an interesting interview in which Trump elucidates at least somewhat on how he’s going to win Latino support and get Mexico to pay for the wall. He speaks to how the media strove to find illegal immigrants working for him and couldn’t find any. He speaks to the fact that our own government doesn’t know how many illegal immigrants are here, and he shoots down slated media claims that crime rates are lower among the Latino population by pointing out those statistics refer to the legal population. He also talks about his views on jobs, gun control, various pundits and his opponents. > > He speaks largely in generalities and there’s plenty of room for his opponents to go off like pop bottle rockets, but it was fun watching the guy in action. He has huge bags under his eyes and is probably exhausted (he’s reputed to sleep only 4 hours a night even when not running for president) but he’s still right there on top of everything Tur throws at him. Fun interview IMHO. It’s amazing how someone can see what you want to see, if it’s their team on the screen. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/23 "2015-07-24T08:43:51Z")
It’s amazing to me how some of the posters here can claim to be so het up about accuracy and honesty while at the same time supporting the candidacies of people like Bill & Hillary Clinton and Barack (“if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan”) Obama. And it’s amazing to me how someone can straightfacedly point to the _Washington Post_ as an unbiased source when it gives away its bias almost immediately with its use of the term “undocumented immigrants” when we all know how they come to be undocumented in the first place. It would be interesting to know just when the _Washington Post_ ever headlined one of its articles with “Bill/Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama’s false comments about X, Y or Z”. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/24 "2015-07-24T10:52:44Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It’s amazing to me how some of the posters here can claim to be so het up about accuracy and honesty while at the same time supporting the candidacies of people like Bill & Hillary Clinton and Barack (“if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan”) Obama. Because, in general, these folks are significantly more accurate and honest (and less inaccurate and dishonest) than most Republican politicians. These things can be measured, and the measurement favors Obama and the Clintons. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/25 "2015-07-24T11:00:47Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It’s amazing to me how some of the posters here can claim to be so het up about accuracy and honesty while at the same time supporting the candidacies of people like Bill & Hillary Clinton and Barack (“if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan”) Obama. > > And it’s amazing to me how someone can straightfacedly point to the _Washington Post_ as an unbiased source when it gives away its bias almost immediately with its use of the term “undocumented immigrants” when we all know how they come to be undocumented in the first place. It would be interesting to know just when the _Washington Post_ ever headlined one of its articles with “Bill/Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama’s false comments about X, Y or Z”. So, when asked what you think Mr. Trump means when he says he’s going to ‘bring jobs back to the US’, you start talking about something else entirely. OK, so we can assume you have no idea either, you just like the sounds he makes for some reason you can’t seem to articulate. Well, that’s me convinced. Let’s just skip the primaries and go straight to the general. Hell, let’s just skip that as well, shall we? Trump by acclamation! Done. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/26 "2015-07-24T11:12:41Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s amazing to me how some of the posters here can claim to be so het up about accuracy and honesty while at the same time supporting the candidacies of people like Bill & Hillary Clinton and Barack (“if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan”) Obama. Yes, what a surprise, people who like truth also like it when politicians tell the truth. The only way to make that statement a lie is to assume that health care reform was supposed to enslave doctors or something. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/27 "2015-07-24T12:22:01Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Are you sure it’s not [Kara Tur](http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/a/ac/Karaturbox.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080616112746)? Maybe it’s Karika Tur. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/28 "2015-07-24T14:38:45Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > You should re-evaluate this model of epistemology. Not only is it bad logic, you probably don’t consume enough non-partisan [media](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/08/donald-trumps-false-comments-connecting-mexican-immigrants-and-crime/)to be an accurate judge. Well [somebody’s doing the raping](http://gawker.com/donald-trump-to-don-lemon-somebodys-doing-the-raping-1715276905), and **Starving Artist** has done his own extensive studies using paper towel tubes that conclusively prove it was Mexicans. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/29 "2015-07-24T14:50:58Z")
So I’m watching parts of the interview. Tur says that the Washington Post found many immigrants working on building Trump’s DC hotel, including some undocumented. Trump says, “They didn’t say that… In fact the writer was really surprised they weren’t able to find anybody… the whole story was about they thought they were going to find people and they weren’t able to find anybody.” (Quote starts at about 1:30) [WaPo article.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/they-say-they-arrived-in-the-us-illegally-now-theyre-working-on-trumps-dc-hotel/2015/07/06/9a785116-20ec-11e5-84d5-eb37ee8eaa61_story.html) And I quote: “But a Trump company may be relying on some undocumented workers to finish the $200 million hotel . . . “The majority of us are Hispanics, many who came illegally,” Arellano said in Spanish. . . . Several of the men, who hail mostly from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, have earned U.S. citizenship or legal status through immigration programs . . . . Others quietly acknowledged that they remain in the country illegally.” I guess in **Starving Artist** ’s view, we score this one for Trump? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/30 "2015-07-24T14:57:14Z")
Here’s another. Trump is talking about immigrants causing all sorts of crime. Tur says that there’s a lower incarceration rate for Mexican immigrants than for native born Americans. Trump says, “That’s a wrong statistic. Go check your numbers. It’s totally wrong. It sounds good, it’s a wrong statistic. Check your numbers.” (Quote starts at about 4:50). [This study](http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/docs/Imm%20Criminality%20(IPC).pdf) found that the incarceration rate for U.S.-born men between 18-39 is 3.4 percent. For forieign-born Mexicans, the rate is 0.7 percent. Now it could be that the incarceration rate is lowered due to deportation of Mexican-born immigrants, but Tur’s statement is backed up by this study. Score another point for Trump, **SA**! ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/31 "2015-07-24T15:10:03Z")
Trump: “The Art of the Deal was the number one business book of all time. Or just about.” (Quote at 11:20) [False.](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jul/06/donald-trump/donald-trumps-art-deal-best-selling-business-book-/) Score another one for Trump! ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/32 "2015-07-24T15:20:38Z")
Trump: “Our country is in trouble. We owe $18 trillion going up to $21 trillion very soon. Once we hit $24 trillion, we are Greece. We are Greece on steroids.” (quote at 14:33) According to the [CBO](https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/114th-congress-2015-2016/reports/50250-LongTermBudgetOutlook-3.pdf), the public debt is expected to stay between 73 and 74 percent of GDP from 2015 to 2020. After that, the debt is expected to rise to 78 percent of GDP by 2025. Currently, Greece’s debt to GDP is 175 percent. Trump is killing it! ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/33 "2015-07-24T15:30:20Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Trump just steamrolls this poor woman I get the feeling Trump has steamrolled more poor people literally than he has figuratively. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/34 "2015-07-24T16:15:06Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well [somebody’s doing the raping](http://gawker.com/donald-trump-to-don-lemon-somebodys-doing-the-raping-1715276905), and **Starving Artist** has done his own extensive studies using paper towel tubes that conclusively prove it was Mexicans. I feel bad for you for the warning you’re going to get once SA reports this. I don’t agree with it but he likes to tattle when people are mean to him about that part of his past. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/35 "2015-07-24T16:22:41Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well [somebody’s doing the raping](http://gawker.com/donald-trump-to-don-lemon-somebodys-doing-the-raping-1715276905), and **Starving Artist** has done his own extensive studies using paper towel tubes that conclusively prove it was Mexicans. Yep, warning. Don’t bring this up outside the Pit. How many times do we have to say this? And SA did not report it, GrandWino. Give it a rest. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/36 "2015-07-24T16:28:59Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So the solution to illegal immigration should be to wreck the economy and increase unemployment? Is there another? Beefing up the border patrol wouldn’t help, they’ve long since reached a point of diminishing returns there, the border is just too long to control. Building a wall is a preposterous notion. And cracking down on the employers ain’t gonna happen. The only solution I can think of that might work is a national ID card that one can be required to show the police at any time, and that ain’t gonna happen either. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/37 "2015-07-24T16:32:31Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And it’s amazing to me how someone can straightfacedly point to the _Washington Post_ as an unbiased source when it gives away its bias almost immediately with its use of the term “undocumented immigrants” . . . :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/38 "2015-07-24T16:44:00Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It would be interesting to know just when the _Washington Post_ ever headlined one of its articles with “Bill/Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama’s false comments about X, Y or Z”. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/01/22/obamas-claim-that-irans-nuclear-program-has-been-halted-and-its-nuclear-stock-pile-reduced/](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/01/22/obamas-claim-that-irans-nuclear-program-has-been-halted-and-its-nuclear-stock-pile-reduced/) [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/11/18/obamas-flip-flop-on-using-executive-action-on-illegal-immigration/](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/11/18/obamas-flip-flop-on-using-executive-action-on-illegal-immigration/) [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/05/09/four-pinocchios-for-obamas-claim-that-republicans-have-filibustered-about-500-pieces-of-legislation/](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/05/09/four-pinocchios-for-obamas-claim-that-republicans-have-filibustered-about-500-pieces-of-legislation/) [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/12/16/the-biggest-pinocchios-of-2013/](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/12/16/the-biggest-pinocchios-of-2013/) [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/10/30/obamas-pledge-that-no-one-will-take-away-your-health-plan/](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/10/30/obamas-pledge-that-no-one-will-take-away-your-health-plan/) [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/09/hillary-clintons-claim-that-everything-i-did-on-emails-was-permitted/](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/07/09/hillary-clintons-claim-that-everything-i-did-on-emails-was-permitted/) [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/06/15/bill-clintons-claim-that-hillary-did-economic-diplomacy-because-there-was-no-commerce-secretary/](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/06/15/bill-clintons-claim-that-hillary-did-economic-diplomacy-because-there-was-no-commerce-secretary/) [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/04/29/clinton-foundations-misleading-claim-about-canadian-laws-on-donor-info/](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/04/29/clinton-foundations-misleading-claim-about-canadian-laws-on-donor-info/) [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/05/29/hillary-clinton-cites-gop-quotes-on-equal-pay-legislation-out-of-context/](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2015/05/29/hillary-clinton-cites-gop-quotes-on-equal-pay-legislation-out-of-context/) Other than that, you may be right. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/39 "2015-07-24T16:55:29Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > So I’m watching parts of the interview. Tur says that the Washington Post found many immigrants working on building Trump’s DC hotel, including some undocumented. Trump says, “They didn’t say that… In fact the writer was really surprised they weren’t able to find anybody… the whole story was about they thought they were going to find people and they weren’t able to find anybody.” (Quote starts at about 1:30) > > [WaPo article.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/they-say-they-arrived-in-the-us-illegally-now-theyre-working-on-trumps-dc-hotel/2015/07/06/9a785116-20ec-11e5-84d5-eb37ee8eaa61_story.html) And I quote: “But a Trump company may be relying on some undocumented workers to finish the $200 million hotel . . . “The majority of us are Hispanics, many who came illegally,” Arellano said in Spanish. . . . Several of the men, who hail mostly from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, have earned U.S. citizenship or legal status through immigration programs . . . . Others quietly acknowledged that they remain in the country illegally.” > > I guess in **Starving Artist** ’s view, we score this one for Trump? Why not? He “may be” relying on undocumented workers is hardly a ringing condemnation nor proof he was wrong. I imagine there may also be some question as to whether the company in question is truly a Trump company or merely one of the many contractors Trump uses for the building of his projects. WaPo is hardly a non-biased source. > [@Ravenman](#): > > Trump: “The Art of the Deal was the number one business book of all time. Or just about.” (Quote at 11:20) > > False. > > Score another one for Trump! What a phony non-debunking that was! Your cite only tracks sales since 2001 and even since then Trump’s book has sold 177,000 copies, so it’s hardly a stretch to think it sold a million or more in total, since it was a blockbuster when it came out. And not only that, but your cite tries to debunk Trump’s claim of it being the number one business book by comparing it to other books that aren’t even business books. > [@Ravenman](#): > > Trump: “Our country is in trouble. We owe $18 trillion going up to $21 trillion very soon. Once we hit $24 trillion, we are Greece. We are Greece on steroids.” (quote at 14:33) > > According to the CBO, the public debt is expected to stay between 73 and 74 percent of GDP from 2015 to 2020. After that, the debt is expected to rise to 78 percent of GDP by 2025. Currently, Greece’s debt to GDP is 175 percent. My interpretation of Trump’s comment was that once we hit $24 trillion we’re in serious financial trouble, not that our public debt will be an exact match to Greece in terms of debt to GDP percentage. But I suppose one can always find a suitable metric with which to make claims in support of whatever argument they’re trying to advance. > [@Ravenman](#): > > Other than that, you may be right. I’ll agree that the two or three of your cites that make mention of ‘Pinochhios’ are similar in accusatory tone to the one about Trump, but the other ones are mostly just mention of questions raised. Still, point taken. I’ll concede that the WaPo does occasionally call Dems to account for their actions, though I’d be surprised if it calls them to account with the same vigor and frequency that it does with someone like Trump, who isn’t even in office after all and is therefore involved in virtually none of the day to day shenanigans that Obama has pulled and the Clintons are notorious for. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006/40 "2015-07-24T16:57:27Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Yep, warning. Don’t bring this up outside the Pit. How many times do we have to say this? I just sent you a PM about this, but you have to say it at least one more time apparently because I’ve never heard of that “rule”. In fact, I thought you were making it up until I searched GrandWino’s posting history due to your subsequent exchange with him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-teflon-don-hands-nbcs-katy-tur-her-ass-and-she-likes-it/726006.md?page=3)