# In which ways (if any) has Democratic strategy changed to prevent a repeat of 2016?

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**Created:** [July 2, 2024, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-ways-if-any-has-democratic-strategy-changed-to-prevent-a-repeat-of-2016/1003618 "2024-07-02T08:37:53Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-ways-if-any-has-democratic-strategy-changed-to-prevent-a-repeat-of-2016/1003618/23 "2024-07-03T05:08:52Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> My point is that anyone saying they can’t see any significant difference in Joe Biden’s character and Donald Trump’s character is somebody who has a poor awareness of reality.

…how about this Haroon Alzookery? Are they allowed to have an opinion on Biden’s character?

> **[This group of voters could decide who next takes the White House — and...](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-04/joe-biden-arab-americans-push-for-uncomitted-vote-gaza-palestine/103515760)**
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> Arab American votes were once all but guaranteed for Democrats, but now in the swinging state of Michigan where every vote counts, that once faithful voter bloc is shrinking — and furious.

Personally, I don’t see much difference in character between the two myself. Not after the events of the last nine months. If you want to think I’m an idiot, then go ahead.

Trump is certainly the bigger threat to democracy. But if I did have a vote, and you asked me to pick one just based on character alone? I couldn’t do it.

If you told me though that the Democrats had an actionable plan to be able to achieve various pillars of a policy platform I support, and if they could bring me on board, then maybe I could hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. In fact, I’d probably vote for Biden for the sake of delaying the descent into darkness (and its only delaying, because you are already most of the way thee). But I wouldn’t be voting for him based on his character.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> To reach out to this person and convince them to vote for Biden would require embracing their delusions.

Again: I don’t see how “giving people something to vote for” is embracing anyone’s delusions. That’s just what you _do_ at elections, is it not? How is that even controversial?

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> They will reach out to people who are racist or homophobic or gun nuts or pro-lifers or anti-vaxxers.

And I’m talking about people that want to stop the militarization of the police, support trans rights, support the right to abortion, affordable healthcare. Do the Democrats _not_ want to reach out to them?

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Not doing this is one of the reasons I support the Democrats. We don’t pander to various fringe groups. We’re the party for grown-ups.

Are the things I listed considered “fringe?”

Then America is doomed.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> So if there’s somebody out there who says Biden and Trump are the same because neither one of them will support a law making veganism mandatory, then I have no problem saying we shouldn’t be trying to reach out to that person.

Strawman.

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