# In which ways (if any) has Democratic strategy changed to prevent a repeat of 2016? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [July 2, 2024, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-ways-if-any-has-democratic-strategy-changed-to-prevent-a-repeat-of-2016/1003618 "2024-07-02T08:37:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 32
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-ways-if-any-has-democratic-strategy-changed-to-prevent-a-repeat-of-2016/1003618/32 "2024-07-03T13:53:27Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This is all basic US civics. He’s said health care is a right. With a fully Democratic congress willing to pass universal health care, he would sign the bill. …but there aren’t any signs that a fully Democratic congress would even support universal healthcare, let alone put together a bill. This isn’t on the agenda, right? Or if it is, can you point me to it? A universal plan that has universal backing? > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > To bring back Roe v Wade, congress would pass a bill making this law, and Biden would sign it. I don’t actually thing bringing back Roe vs Wade is enough, not that I believe a Democratic congress would do it anyway. But the Democrats for years have failed to codify this, even when they’ve had the executive, the senate and the house, so why would anyone imagine they’d do it next term? > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > To fix SCOTUS, congress would pass a bill expanding the size and Biden would sign it. When I said “give people something to vote for”, this is exactly the sort of thing I’m talking about. If expanding the court is on the agenda, then _let everybody know_. But is it actually on the agenda? If the people vote and give the Democrats everything they need, is this something they will actually do? Does Biden even support this? I’ve never heard a squeak out of him indicating this is on the cards. Outside of the progressive bloc, who supports this? More importantly, how many oppose it? > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Your criticisms are no different than the exact same things I’ve heard about Democrats for my entire life. And looking at the current state of the country, those criticisms are warranted, yes? I mean, how’s this looking? [https://thehill.com/homenews/pr/4695531-first-2024-forecast-from-the-hill-and-decision-desk-hq-projects-gop-has-edge-for-president-and-u-s-senate-closer-call-for-u-s-house/](https://thehill.com/homenews/pr/4695531-first-2024-forecast-from-the-hill-and-decision-desk-hq-projects-gop-has-edge-for-president-and-u-s-senate-closer-call-for-u-s-house/) The Democrats are running against Donald Fricken Trump. Why are they on the backfoot? Perhaps running on “not Trump”, “character”, and empty promises that nobody will actually commit to isn’t a winning strategy any more. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Yeah, sometimes we need to message better. If you think I’m just talking about “messaging” you are very mistaken. Because all the messaging in the world won’t save you if people no longer believe you. I don’t think universal healthcare, expanding the court, or bringing back Roe vs Wade is actually on the cards. And if they are on the cards, but the Democratic strategy is to keep those cards secret, then I don’t understand the strategy at all. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > But you’re offering nothing but extremely vague criticisms I’ve offered a very specific criticism. One that people in this thread disagree with. My very specific recommendation is that if you plan to expand the court, then you _campaign_ on that. And if you need a certain number in the house and the senate to pass it because you know that it will be opposed by people in your own party, then tell us where resources need to be focused to get enough people through so they can pass their legislative agenda. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > and coming from an apparent lack of understanding of how the US government works. “Listen to the people and then give them something to vote for” isn’t a thing that is predicated on “understanding how the US government works.” It isn’t exactly an outlandish, left-field suggestion. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-which-ways-if-any-has-democratic-strategy-changed-to-prevent-a-repeat-of-2016/1003618)._