# In Your Face Radical Right Happy Dance Gloating Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 16, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414 "2013-10-16T17:41:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/181 "2013-10-17T15:35:07Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> Living in the UK, I’m relieved. Since ‘when the American economy sneezes, we catch a cold’.
> 
> Thanks to Debaser for a decent apology. If only some politicians showed such class…
> 
> The Tea party was named after saving taxpayers extra expense. How do they reconcile that with this pointless waste of time and money?

Yes, that’s one of the things that pisses me off. This whole thing costs money-- shutting things down and then turning them back on again. And then we have people be paid for not doing their jobs… Makes me want to grab those fuckers by the throats and shake some sense into them (if that’s even possible).

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**Author:** ![Oliveritaly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oliveritaly/32/15233_2.png) [@Oliveritaly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oliveritaly)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/182 "2013-10-17T15:41:12Z")

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> [@sylmar](#):
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> Dibbs on the shuttleboard- henchman position pushing little tokens around the world map!

DT this is coming together nicely.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/183 "2013-10-17T15:52:41Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> My mistake. They did need all 60, but I thought they needed that Republican support rather than just wanting it. In that case **MsWhatsit** ’s version was more accurate.

No, it was not. As previous, the first half of your sentence was accurate.

The negotiations over the ACA were between the Democratic leadership and a few moderate Democrats from swing states (most notably Ben Nelson, IIRC) and Joe Leiberman.

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**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/184 "2013-10-17T16:18:32Z")

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Just a note on Ben Nelson, Nebraska isn’t a swing state. He, IMO, was trying to save his own ass in a very red state and he thereby pissed everyone off including Democrats who’d elected him. Then he turned around and didn’t even run for re-election, that asshole.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/185 "2013-10-17T16:24:35Z")

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> [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](#):
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> Just a note on Ben Nelson, Nebraska isn’t a swing state. He, IMO, was trying to save his own ass in a very red state and he thereby pissed everyone off including Democrats who’d elected him. Then he turned around and didn’t even run for re-election, that asshole.

Yup. Nebraska (Omaha specifically) is a big insurance hub, and Nelson was sucking up to the corporate moneymen while simultaneously undermining the Democratic plan. That he did this for no apparent reason really chapped my hide at the time.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/186 "2013-10-17T16:33:50Z")

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> [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](#):
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> Just a note on Ben Nelson, Nebraska isn’t a swing state. He, IMO, was trying to save his own ass in a very red state and he thereby pissed everyone off including Democrats who’d elected him. Then he turned around and didn’t even run for re-election, that asshole.

“THe food in this place is just terrible!”

“Yeah, and such small portions too …”

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/187 "2013-10-17T16:35:02Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Yup. Nebraska (Omaha specifically) is a big insurance hub, and Nelson was sucking up to the corporate moneymen while simultaneously undermining the Democratic plan. That he did this for no apparent reason really chapped my hide at the time.

I am $ure he had a rea$on.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/188 "2013-10-17T16:45:04Z")

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> [@Oliveritaly](#):
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> Der Trihs …  
> The people slamming you in this thread are all jerkfaces, total jerkfaces.
> 
> I’d just like to point out that when you do take over the world as a totalitarian dictator for life you’re going to need some "thugs’ and that I’m interested in applying for the ‘chief thug’ position. Alternately I might be of some value in the propaganda department.
> 
> I await your orders.
> 
> v/r  
> Oliveritaly

Ooh! Ooh! Can I be head of the Secret Police?!

Our motto: “Fighting ignorance . . . by any means necessary!” 😃

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/189 "2013-10-17T16:53:12Z")

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Ted Cruz’ hometown newspaper, the _Houston Chronicle,_ which endorsed him in 2012, [just un-endorsed him](http://www.chron.com/opinion/editorials/article/Why-we-miss-Kay-Bailey-Hutchison-4898405.php).

Oh, wait – [no, they didn’t!](http://blog.chron.com/chronopinion/2013/10/did-we-un-endorse-ted-cruz-no/)

But clearly they did **criticize** him.

> [@](#):
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> Does anyone else miss Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison?
> 
> \<snip\>
> 
> When we endorsed Ted Cruz in last November’s general election, we did so with many reservations and at least one specific recommendation - that he follow Hutchison’s example in his conduct as a senator.
> 
> Obviously, he has not done so. Cruz has been part of the problem in specific situations where Hutchison would have been part of the solution.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/190 "2013-10-17T17:04:05Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> :rolleyes: I haven’t so much as punched anyone since high school…

Yes, I’m sure you haven’t. No doubt you’ve convinced yourself that this is due to your deep moral convictions, too.

> [@](#):
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> I see no reason to take such blatantly silly accusations seriously.

This just rated a 9.2 on my Irony Richter Scale.

Anyway, the point is that one does not, as you suggested, have to be anti-liberal or anti-atheist to consider you a hate-filled lunatic.

> [@](#):
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> EDIT: And people accusing me of being insulting and _then_ calling me a wannabee mass murderer are being rather hypocritical

I never complained about you being insulting, I complained that you regularly engage in a level of mindless prejudice not normally seen outside of a Westboro Baptist rally.

Kind of a different thing.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/191 "2013-10-17T17:04:38Z")

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I don’t see any of this as a victory for anyone other than a few spoiled brats in Washington who have abused their positions at the expense of their constituencies. And make no mistake: they’re going to do it again in January/February and again and again, while we all watch our country go to hell because these employees of the American taxpayers can’t seem to function in their jobs. Our country lost billions of dollars: does anybody think that there won’t be fallout from this? Does anybody really think that assholes like Cruz won’t be reelected? Our enemies are laughing at us and likely plotting to move against us while we apparently can’t get out of our own way. What a debacle.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/192 "2013-10-17T17:17:08Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> For now. The law calls for a budget committee that could change that - which was something the Democrats have wanted for months and that Republicans have been avoiding.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but whatever comes out of the budget committee gets to skip the House or something right? That’s why Republicans have been avoiding it?

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**Author:** ![Karrius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/193 "2013-10-17T17:23:15Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I never complained about you being insulting, I complained that you regularly engage in a level of mindless prejudice not normally seen outside of a Westboro Baptist rally.

As much as I don’t like Der Trihs’s opinions on some issues, there’s really a huge difference between hating republicans and the Westboro shit, and yes, he goes overboard but this is really just kind of disgusting, especially because you are minimizing the hate and violence that people face that actually effects them. No republicans are actually going to be hurt because DT said a few mean words, unlike when say Fox News spreads lies about transgender kids for no reason than pure bigotry.

Republicans are bitching that the poor have refrigerators and air conditioners, say that atheists don’t deserve to be counted as real Americans, force people to be raped in order to receive live-saving medical care, and recently just shut down the government and risked putting the country into default and caused a lot of problems for a lot of people, all in an attempt to help make sure poor people don’t get basic medical care.

Jumping on his back for not feeling sympathetic to the people who have openly stated I don’t deserve to count as an American and who’s propaganda arm is now going on about how it’s unfair poor people have air conditioners when Heat Waves kill people is just fucking ridiculous.

Maybe attack him in a thread where he does deserve it, but seriously - _republican actions are openly trying to hurt people_. They deserve all the responsibility and lack of sympathy that it causes. They’ve shown they themselves have no sympathy for others on this board - why should anybody have any sympathy for them, when they support jackasses?

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/194 "2013-10-17T17:29:48Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Obama is the man Reagan pretended to be. Trouble is, didn’t much like Reagan…

> [@bobot](#):
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> Thank you President Obama and Congressional Democrats for not backing down! Too many times in recent years have Democrats shown a sickening spinelessness. Not this time, and apparently not this guy- Obama.  
> As when he was poking fun of Donald Trump, while at the same time bin laden was being taken out, try to bluff Obama at your own risk.

I sighed yesterday afternoon and issued a whispered “Finally” when reading Huffpost’s headline about Obama:

**Backbone!**

This was much more pleasant, obviously, than their headline last year about the latest (at the time) in a series of Obama needlessly giving in to the Republicans yet again:

**Cave!**

Obama stuck to his guns this time, thank goodness …a little late, but better late than never.

> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I don’t see any of this as a victory for anyone other than a few spoiled brats in Washington who have abused their positions at the expense of their constituencies. And make no mistake: they’re going to do it again in January/February and again and again, while we all watch our country go to hell because these employees of the American taxpayers can’t seem to function in their jobs. Our country lost billions of dollars: does anybody think that there won’t be fallout from this? Does anybody really think that assholes like Cruz won’t be reelected? Our enemies are laughing at us and likely plotting to move against us while we apparently can’t get out of our own way. What a debacle.

I generally agree with your sentiment, but there’s no way the Republicans are going to do this again in January, much less February, not with elections looming mere months away.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/195 "2013-10-17T17:38:08Z")

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> [@Karrius](#):
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> As much as I don’t like Der Trihs’s opinions on some issues, there’s really a huge difference between hating republicans and the Westboro shit, and yes, he goes overboard but this is really just kind of disgusting, especially because you are minimizing the hate and violence that people face that actually effects them. No republicans are actually going to be hurt because DT said a few mean words, unlike when say Fox News spreads lies about transgender kids for no reason than pure bigotry.
> 
> Republicans are bitching that the poor have refrigerators and air conditioners, say that atheists don’t deserve to be counted as real Americans, force people to be raped in order to receive live-saving medical care, and recently just shut down the government and risked putting the country into default and caused a lot of problems for a lot of people, all in an attempt to help make sure poor people don’t get basic medical care.
> 
> Jumping on his back for not feeling sympathetic to the people who have openly stated I don’t deserve to count as an American and who’s propaganda arm is now going on about how it’s unfair poor people have air conditioners when Heat Waves kill people is just fucking ridiculous.
> 
> Maybe attack him in a thread where he does deserve it, but seriously - _republican actions are openly trying to hurt people_. They deserve all the responsibility and lack of sympathy that it causes. They’ve shown they themselves have no sympathy for others on this board - why should anybody have any sympathy for them, when they support jackasses?

I endorse this post, fully.

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**Author:** ![Oliveritaly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oliveritaly/32/15233_2.png) [@Oliveritaly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oliveritaly)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/196 "2013-10-17T17:43:53Z")

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> [@Karrius](#):
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> As much as I don’t like Der Trihs’s opinions on some issues, there’s really a huge difference between hating republicans and the Westboro shit, and yes, he goes overboard but this is really just kind of disgusting, especially because you are minimizing the hate and violence that people face that actually effects them. No republicans are actually going to be hurt because DT said a few mean words, unlike when say Fox News spreads lies about transgender kids for no reason than pure bigotry.
> 
> Republicans are bitching that the poor have refrigerators and air conditioners, say that atheists don’t deserve to be counted as real Americans, force people to be raped in order to receive live-saving medical care, and recently just shut down the government and risked putting the country into default and caused a lot of problems for a lot of people, all in an attempt to help make sure poor people don’t get basic medical care.
> 
> Jumping on his back for not feeling sympathetic to the people who have openly stated I don’t deserve to count as an American and who’s propaganda arm is now going on about how it’s unfair poor people have air conditioners when Heat Waves kill people is just fucking ridiculous.
> 
> Maybe attack him in a thread where he does deserve it, but seriously - _republican actions are openly trying to hurt people_. They deserve all the responsibility and lack of sympathy that it causes. They’ve shown they themselves have no sympathy for others on this board - why should anybody have any sympathy for them, when they support jackasses?

Spot on. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/197 "2013-10-17T17:44:04Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> I endorse this post, fully.

Thirded.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/198 "2013-10-17T17:48:54Z")

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Before this love-in gets too sloppy, I will just say that **DT** ’s post that I was responding to at the start of this whole sidetrack was:

> [@Der Trihs](#):
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> Given that not feeling sympathetic to other people is a central part of their worldview, there’s no circumstances under which I’d feel sympathetic to a Republican. They wouldn’t care about me even if I was burning alive; I see no reason to feel any sympathy over anything that happens to them.

This kind of bullshit strawman is ridiculous and nowhere near conducive to any kind of useful or legitimate debate. It is nothing more than demonizing the other side because he thinks they are evil. I don’t feel that way and neither do a lot of other liberals, and I’m tired of hearing it from him.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/199 "2013-10-17T17:50:41Z")

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> [@Rachellelogram](#):
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> Gesundheit!

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Karrius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/200 "2013-10-17T17:56:06Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
>
> Before this love-in gets too sloppy, I will just say that **DT** ’s post that I was responding to at the start of this whole sidetrack was:
> 
> This kind of bullshit strawman is ridiculous and nowhere near conducive to any kind of useful or legitimate debate. It is nothing more than demonizing the other side because he thinks they are evil. I don’t feel that way and neither do a lot of other liberals, and I’m tired of hearing it from him.

[A fox news host is complaining that the poor have air conditioners.](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/10/fox-news-hasselbeck-calls-air-conditioning-the-ugly-side-of-welfare/)

[Severe weather is the leading cause of death via natural hazards.](http://www.ij-healthgeographics.com/content/7/1/64)

I’m not sure how what he said was untrue.

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