# In Your Face Radical Right Happy Dance Gloating Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 16, 2013, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414 "2013-10-16T17:41:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Karrius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/221 "2013-10-17T18:48:46Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > Hey, Jon Huntsman isn’t total scum (and thus had to withdraw in January). How bad is it that if you asked me what year he ran, I would have said 2008? He had to withdraw from the race so early so people like Donald Trump could run I seriously thought it was a different race until I double-checked. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/222 "2013-10-17T18:54:16Z")
> [@Karrius](#): > > How bad is it that if you asked me what year he ran, I would have said 2008? He had to withdraw from the race so early so people like Donald Trump could run I seriously thought it was a different race. Pretty bad. Point is, there are non-scum Republicans (I voted for Andy Barr for the House and haven’t lost sleep over it, though [he didn’t cover himself with glory during the budget crisis](http://www.kentucky.com/2013/10/16/2880208/andy-barr-opposes-debt-deal-says.html) and is something of a yes-man for the party) out there, they’re just on the margins, waiting to reclaim leadership of the party when the radicals lose power (or so I hope, otherwise I’ll have to start voting Democrat). ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/223 "2013-10-17T18:57:42Z")
By all indications, the radicals are _gaining_ power. Until recently they were eunuchs, frothing ineffectively about Benghazi and forcing Boehner to schedule endless futile votes to repeal Obamacare. This month they shut down most of the federal government. That’s… well, not an achievement, but certainly an impact. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/224 "2013-10-17T18:59:57Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > By all indications, the radicals are _gaining_ power. Until recently they were eunuchs, frothing ineffectively about Benghazi and forcing Boehner to schedule endless futile votes to repeal Obamacare. This month they shut down most of the federal government. That’s… well, not an achievement, but certainly an impact. This could well be their high-water mark, though, [based on polling data:](http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/poll-gop-tea-party-98409.html) > [@](#): > > The tea party’s approval rating is spiraling downward — and that’s just among Republican voters. > > The conservative group’s favorability has fallen a dramatic 20 percentage points among moderate and liberal Republicans, down to 27 percent from 46 percent in June, according to a new Pew poll released on Wednesday. Time will tell, of course. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/225 "2013-10-17T19:13:30Z")
> [@Oliveritaly](#): > > Der Trihs … > The people slamming you in this thread are all jerkfaces, total jerkfaces. > > I’d just like to point out that when you do take over the world as a totalitarian dictator for life you’re going to need some "thugs’ and that I’m interested in applying for the ‘chief thug’ position. Alternately I might be of some value in the propaganda department. > > I await your orders. > > v/r > Oliveritaly > [@Tee](#): > > Good thinking. I would like to apply for Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty **Elucidator.** > [@sylmar](#): > > Dibbs on the shuttleboard- henchman position pushing little tokens around the world map! > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Ooh! Ooh! Can I be head of the Secret Police?! > > Our motto: “Fighting ignorance . . . by any means necessary!” 😃 You fools! You’re committing to something before the _most important question_ has been answered: What do the **uniforms** look like???!!!??? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/226 "2013-10-17T19:14:43Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > It wouldn’t be much of a fight. From my reading of the bill, the debt ceiling gets automatically raised unless Congress disapproves (both houses) and Obama can veto it even if it does pass. So there won’t be any more hostage-taking over default. Budget battles galore, but not “burn down the country” shenannigans. > [@elucidator](#): > > Now, this particular wrinkle I had not gathered, despite an obsession level of attention. Not to suggest doubt, but could I get that nailed down, for the sheer joy of it? A cite for sore eyes, if you will. > [@jasg](#): > > I agree with silenus. [page 24, Section 1002](http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/senate-bill-government-shutdown-98411.html)"Default Prevention Act of 2013". I think McConnell came up with this during the 2011 Debt Follies… [Ezra Klein](https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/390842114453827584) says this only holds until Feb 7. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/227 "2013-10-17T19:24:52Z")
I think he’s wrong. Page 25 says _…February 8, 2014, the limitation in section 3101(b) of title 31, United States Code, as increased by sec- tion 3101A of such title and section 2 of the No Budget, No Pay Act of 2013 (31 U.S.C. 3101 note), is increased to the extent that– (A) the face amount of obligations issued under chapter 31 of such title and the face amount of obligations whose principal and in- terest are guaranteed by the United States Gov- ernment (except guaranteed obligations held by the Secretary of the Treasury) outstanding on February 8, 2014, exceeds (B) the face amount of such obligations outstanding on the date of enactment of this Act._ ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/228 "2013-10-17T19:25:38Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > John Boehner’s total and utter failure of leadership during this entire crisis has been beyond belief. I don’t feel sorry for him at all. He essentially put the country on the chopping block in order to save his own pathetic skin. If the voters of this country were not so damn stupid and so willing to drink the Repub/TeaParty/Limbaugh/Beck Koolaid, I would say this should end his “career” and the “career” of many others. Just a bunch of two year olds, who were screaming NO NO NO and breaking shit - to the tune of hundreds of thousands of jobs possibly lost and billions of dollars wasted, all to throw a bitch fit. To hell with ALL of them. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/229 "2013-10-17T19:28:17Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > That’s the point. The lunatics tried to hold the country hostage and got told: > > “You get NOTHING! You LOSE! Good day, sir!” This, in droves, plus **over 9000** ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/230 "2013-10-17T19:36:24Z")
I feel no need to gloat, but I wouldn’t mind a lap dance from Michele Bachmann. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/231 "2013-10-17T19:42:52Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > I feel no need to gloat, but I wouldn’t mind a lap dance from Michele Bachmann. Never [del]stick[/del] get your dick [del]in[/del] anywhere near the crazy. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/232 "2013-10-17T19:47:30Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > Bolding mine. This is my problem. Some Republicans expressed a reprehensible opinion. Therefore all Republicans are evil/crazy/want to rape people/etc. Spewing hyperbole towards a rather large group of people who, believe it or not, frequently express ideas that are not crazy, do not involve wanting to burn people alive or rape them, and are worth consideration, is not helpful. This is all I’m saying. > > Edit: I am feeling really cranky that you people are making me actually defend Republicans today. Come ON. No true Scotsman? Something like that? Why don’t they (the supposedly sane moral ones) do something about it? Why do/should they support them in elections, or even allow them to run on the party name? Why not disavow them? Inaction and indifference can be kinds of evil too. And, they are more insidious than outright lunactic “bad guys”. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/233 "2013-10-17T19:49:05Z")
Somewhat surprised at the number of Republicans voting to end the clusterfuck. I figured they would count up the number they were going to need and let at least some of their Reps off the hook so they wouldn’t have to vote for it and wouldn’t have to explain it back home. Assuming, of course, that they expected that vote to be unpopular back home. So, I expected them to have just enough Pubbies voting to get over that 217 number. But that’s not what happened, the vote was 285 with 87 Pubbies voting for it. I’m wondering why. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/234 "2013-10-17T19:51:43Z")
Based on the way this is being reported I’m pretty sure Klein is right. If the debt ceiling thing was effectively gone forever, that would be getting more attention. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/235 "2013-10-17T19:56:04Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > I feel no need to gloat, but I wouldn’t mind a lap dance from Michele Bachmann. Not likely. Better chance of getting one from her husband. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/236 "2013-10-17T20:04:39Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > Well aren’t you quite the naive one. I’m sure no one ever found a way to abuse an EBT card to buy something that wasn’t intended with it. I’m sure everyone does it, too! Or at least, most people. Screw them welfare queens. ---
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/237 "2013-10-17T20:14:32Z")
I really only breezed through this thread 'cause I don’t have a dog in the fight, but I did have the good fortune to be asked to interview University of MD Economist Peter Morici yesterday and ended up having a very interesting conversation. My station agreed to put the whole interview (minus the stutters & let me start agains) on the web. [Here it is.](http://www.wusa9.com/video/2750796326001/1/Peter-Morici-talks-about-economy-Obamacare) I found it to be a fascinating conversation and I offer it for the discussion. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/238 "2013-10-17T20:15:01Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > But that’s not what happened, the vote was 285 with 87 Pubbies voting for it. Yeah, well, that still leaves 144 Republicans who basically clearly stated with their ‘no’ votes that they had far less concern about possibly collapsing the world economy than whatever the hell their objections were to the ACA. Regarding another ever-popular subject in this thread, I promise you I roll my eyes every time **DT** posts another of his monotonous, pro forma “all Republicans are evil” screeds, but hey, when I see stuff like the above I can’t help thinking at least 144 Republicans may be evil. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/239 "2013-10-17T20:17:58Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Based on the way this is being reported I’m pretty sure Klein is right. If the debt ceiling thing was effectively gone forever, that would be getting more attention. That’s what I’m feeling too, but I want to know what I’m missing in the text. Obviously it’s **something** , but what? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414/240 "2013-10-17T20:19:02Z")
> [@](#): > > …they had far less concern about possibly collapsing the world economy… Well, no, not really, once they decided that the bill would pass, all they really had to do was to supply whatever number of Pubbie votes was required, then that consequence became moot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-your-face-radical-right-happy-dance-gloating-thread/671414.md?page=13)