# Inaccuracies that bother you most and least

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**Created:** [June 28, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inaccuracies-that-bother-you-most-and-least/967050 "2022-06-28T16:04:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
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Long time ago, i was a campanologist. No-one does that right

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**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\
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Were you high camp, or low?

Dan

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
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I ran the whole gamut, from treble to tenor !

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
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Military hardware doesn’t bother me if it’s wrong (I wouldn’t know the difference between a Sherman and a Panzer). If you’re positing a world where corpses get up, walk around and eat people, I have no problem believing the military timeline would be different in this alternate universe and maybe the helicopter sitting in the parking lot is correct for this world, after all.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inaccuracies-that-bother-you-most-and-least/967050/105 "2022-06-29T21:41:09Z")

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> [@Cayuga](#):
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> n a cool note, my 15-year-old taught me that this is called _diagesis_. Music (or anything else) that is supposed to be in the scene is diagetic, while stuff that is part of the film but not actually present in the scene is non-diagetic. I love it when my kid teaches me things.

Archer, season four, episode 12 Cheryl Tunt tells herself to ignore the music that it’s not diegetic. I think that may be where I first heard it.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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> [@pjd](#):
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> Long time ago, i was a campanologist.

I know I’ve heard that word before. At least, it rings a bell.

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> [@Bill\_Door](#):
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> Archer, season four, episode 12 Cheryl Tunt tells herself to ignore the music that it’s not diegetic. I think that may be where I first heard it.

The old gypsy woman was right!

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inaccuracies-that-bother-you-most-and-least/967050/108 "2022-06-29T22:04:55Z")

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This only bothers me because I think people really should be encouraged to learn CPR and it would take little effort to do it appropriately. I have run many hundreds of codes and have never really heard someone complain it wasn’t like a TV show, though, even if outcomes probably are not as portrayed.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inaccuracies-that-bother-you-most-and-least/967050/109 "2022-06-29T22:15:05Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> The British quiz show QI claimed that it’s not true and that the earliest documented account of the story is from 1981. But this [historian interviewed in The Evening Standard](https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/historian-obsessed-with-napoleon-spills-the-beans-on-bonaparte-s-sex-life-and-reveals-the-truth-about-not-tonight-josephine-10309683.html) says it is true.

Well, I have now read like four articles claiming this, but suspiciously, none give a date of the so called letter. Here are all his letters to her.

> **[The Project Gutenberg's eBook of Napoleon's letters to Josephine, by Henry...](https://www.gutenberg.org/files/37499/37499-h/37499-h.htm)**

> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> The other is when “The Government” is portrayed as a monolithic, hive-mind, thoroughly evil entity where everyone is in on the conspiracy. I don’t mean some futuristic storyline, but supposedly present-day dramas. Cheap, convenient plot device but _soooooooo_ not even close. I worked for DoD for 37 years (uniformed and civilian) and for the most part, it’s not much different from society at large, since all the employees come from society at large. Even in highly classified jobs (which I held at one point) you didn’t find all the employees in lockstep with, well, anything.

Yep, Treasury agent for 20 years, and that sort of stuff is only possible if kept to two people…assuming one is dead.

> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> And yeah, the tediousness with which people complain about gun inaccuracies bores the shit out of me. They just go on and on with what sounds like a series of random numbers and makes and models. Who the fuck cares.

And yeah, the tediousness with which people complain about music inaccuracies bores the shit out of me. They just go on and on with what sounds like a series of name-that-tune trivia. Who the fuck cares.

Each person has something that floats their boat. With me, if the music is cool and not terribly wrong period (with an exception for _A Knights Tale_), I am cool with that.

But it’s cool if you care, you are not wrong.

> [@Asuka](#):
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> Mainly because 1. Even casual pistol users would notice the difference in weight between an empty and fully loaded gun.

In a revolver it is _really_ obvious.

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> [@Esprise\_Me](#):
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> > [@ZonexandScout](#):
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> > Pretty irritating and usually inaccurate: Women sleeping in bras.
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> It’s either that or the L-shaped sheet! (Seriously, though, why can’t the blanket just cover both of them? Men’s torsos are rarely that interesting.)

This is one of those complaints that is more annoying that any kind of “inaccuracy”: People making jokes about “L-shaped sheets.” What kind of shitty piece of hard plastic do you sleep under that you can’t understand that sheets are pliable and can be twisted into any shape?? I really really do not understand why people have such a problem with this. 🤷

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
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Well, ignorance fought. I should have been suspicious when the Wallace Clan had nothing about that in [The Intimate Sex Lives of Famous People](https://books.google.com/books?id=FNTFJ1aqXcwC&pg=PA310&lpg=PA310&dq=The+Intimate+Sex+Lives+of+Famous+People+napoleon&source=bl&ots=74smvXTyWA&sig=ACfU3U3EvEta0-ojXMCys25p9s9MUYR3_A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiMluau2dP4AhVODEQIHXMWC9EQ6AF6BAgXEAI#v=onepage&q=The%20Intimate%20Sex%20Lives%20of%20Famous%20People%20napoleon&f=false). Elsewhere I’ve read that Napoleon performed the deed like a fireman attacking a housefire; more consistent with a “just get it over with” approach.

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**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\
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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Of course. But I can’t imagine getting clean using pebbles

The neck of a goose comes highly recommended.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Each person has something that floats their boat. With me, if the music is cool and not terribly wrong period (with an exception for _A Knights Tale_), I am cool with that.

I saw an interview with someone associated with that film and they said that the orchestral stuff they usually played over those types of moves was 500 years removed from the events pictured, and complaining over another couple hundred years was quibbling.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inaccuracies-that-bother-you-most-and-least/967050/114 "2022-06-29T22:49:35Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> In _Freaks and Geeks_ one of the main characters had a beat up looking 1979 Firebird, which only would have been 2-3 years old when the show takes place

Eh. Maybe, maybe not. I know of some rednecks who’ve trashed their new-ish (2-3 y/o) pick-up trucks…and still have four more years of payments to make. And I know some Good Ol’ Boys with 10-15 y/o trucks that almost look like they could have driven off the showroom floor yesterday.

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I don’t “have such a problem with” the L-shaped sheets; I just find it amusing. It’s one of those things I can’t unsee since it was pointed out. Of course it’s possible that a sheet could be twisted into that shape; it just isn’t usually in real life (women don’t obsessively cover their breasts; men don’t compulsively expose their navels when they’re in bed together), while it’s nearly universal in bedroom scenes in film and television. But I wouldn’t say it bothers me. Certainly not in the way brown eyebrows on supposedly natural blondes do.

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I’m not sure who would be complaining, I suppose. As the topic implies, it’s a personal annoyance, and an effect I’ve often wondered about. I know that in my own experience, family members who happen to see part of the code, or the messy aftermath, tend to be less inclined to push for continued full code status. I should look into if an effect on code discussions has been affected by the media portrayal. And just looked: yes, and the answer is maybe.

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> [@2\_More\_Bits](#):
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> There’s a scene in the recent Dune where Paul Atreides asks his mother “you good?,” as a modern teen might. Gawd, that bothered me!

Huh, modern slang in period or fantasy / SF movies doesn’t bother me at all. Presumably, everything we’re hearing is a “translation” anyway, so they may as well render it as contemporary, idiomatic English.

But if the scriptwriters are trying to make the language sound old-timey, _for God’s sake get the grammar and usage right._ I gave up on _Green Knight_ after about ten minutes because they got it so stupidly wrong. It’s one thing to have a character call the king “thou” (annoying if you understand the social nuances of when to use “you” vs. “thou,” but understandable that most people wouldn’t know that), it’s a totally different level of wrongness to call him “thy.” As in, using a _possessive_ pronoun as a term of address.

Drives me crazy. And there are hundreds and hundreds of grad students in medieval and Renaissance literature who know the idiom thoroughly and would be thrilled to do a bit of film script consulting for a pittance, by Hollywood standards. There’s really no excuse for not getting it right.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> In _Freaks and Geeks_ one of the main characters had a beat up looking 1979 Firebird, which only would have been 2-3 years old when the show takes place.

Maybe he (she?) bought it from Jim Rockford? 🤨

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I know I’ve heard that word before. At least, it rings a bell.

Shame on you.

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I had a hunch someone would say that.

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