# Inblourious Gasterds Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 8, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280 "2009-09-08T14:18:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Gryff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gryff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gryff)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/221 "2009-09-11T20:01:53Z")
God what a day, time to hunt some scum! … Oh, no one is pinging very scumly to me, in fact the scummiest action I can see would be coming the closest to a no lynch vote you can in this game i.e talking about leaving it to the following day for more info. As always we can’t let the scum get the initiative and let them get a free kill. Weak, but better than nothing vote: **Nanook of the North Shore** ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/222 "2009-09-11T20:14:00Z")
> [@BillMC](#): > > I’m confused by your response. **AllWalker** found the case against you (Texcat) weak, yet you attack him? Yep. AllWalker lied about my voting record. I’m definitely of the lynch-the-liars school. Especially on day 1 with not so much else to go on. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/223 "2009-09-11T20:31:55Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Ok I’m going to take a different route and vote for the first voter of the Day, because of how long we went with no votes at all – I know from experience that sort of situation gives Scum an itchy trigger finger. They have more people to worry about than the rest of us do (as we have no Masons). So that would be **texcat**. > > . What? 1. I don’t think we went very long at all with no votes. I mean, it’s only a 3 day Day if I am remember correctly. 2. I don’t think voting for the first person who votes on those grounds alone makes much sense at all. 3. I get the idea of Scum getting nervous about being bombarded with votes at the end of the day after having a Day of no votes, but this is far from that situation and most scum would be careful to not to fabricate a weak first vote. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/224 "2009-09-11T20:52:52Z")
OMG I have just reread everything. And I now realize I totally misunderstood AllWalker. I thought he was saying that the case against me was that I had made the first vote on Normal Phase and that I had voted peeker as a joke vote and that I had voted diggit as a self-defense vote. But he was talking about who voted for me. I need to pick up that wooden rabbit and slap myself against the head more than once. **Unvote: AllWalker**! ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/225 "2009-09-11T21:26:09Z")
> [@Gryff](#): > > God what a day, time to hunt some scum! > > … Oh, no one is pinging very scumly to me, in fact the scummiest action I can see would be coming the closest to a no lynch vote you can in this game i.e talking about leaving it to the following day for more info. As always we can’t let the scum get the initiative and let them get a free kill. > > Weak, but better than nothing > > vote: **Nanook of the North Shore** I have no idea what you’re trying to say with this vote. I didn’t say anything about leaving things for the following Day, and I have an honest to goodness vote in for a person. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/226 "2009-09-11T21:34:25Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > What? > > 1. I don’t think we went very long at all with no votes. I mean, it’s only a 3 day Day if I am remember correctly. > > 2. I don’t think voting for the first person who votes on those grounds alone makes much sense at all. > > 3. I get the idea of Scum getting nervous about being bombarded with votes at the end of the day after having a Day of no votes, but this is far from that situation and most scum would be careful to not to fabricate a weak first vote. I never said it was a strong case, but the one against **DiggitCamara** was just wrong from my perspective — based on nothing and threatening to develop into a bandwagon that would stifle discussion for the rest of the day. I didn’t want that, and went to see if anything else caught my eye. You mis-characterize my vote when you say it was based on first-vote status alone – that’s not what I wrote at all. There was also **ColdPhoenix** stepping in to correct **peeker** ’s misapprehension about the newt/Frenchman thing, on which he based his own vote for **texcat**. Why the defense? It was obviously a joke vote, no harm done (at that point). It might just be random altruism, or it might be a reflex to protect a teammate (and there are no Masons in this game). The two things together prompted my comment. So yes, it was admittedly a very thin case, but it’s not like anyone has presented a stronger, yet, unless there are in fact Scum in the original **DiggitCamara** bandwagon (and I see no way of picking any of you above the rest, if so). It was not based on just that one thing. And in any case, it did spark what appears to have been a rather strong reaction based on a hasty misread of **AllWalker** ’s comment, so for now my vote stays where it is. NETA: All kinds of mis-reads going on, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/227 "2009-09-11T22:51:20Z")
Updated vote count: Current Votes: **DiggitCamara (4)**: Zeriel, Freudian Slit, ColdPhoenix, Mahaloth **texcat (4)**: peekercpa, Normal Phase, DiggitCamara, Zsofia **Nanook (1)**: Gryff **Mahaloth (1)**: Nanook **BillMC (1)**: Tom Scud **Not voting** : DarthSensitive, AllWalker, BillMC, TexCat As of now **DiggitCamara** will be lynched at dusk. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/228 "2009-09-11T23:05:55Z")
> [@BillMC](#): > > Thanks for the explanation. > > **Unvote Diggit** > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Yes, well I was really trying to tell him that I am more than willing to hear him/her out. > > I was trying to nudge him and will unvote him if he responds and I think it is reasonable. > [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > He has responded, top of this page. Well, at least **BillMC** and **Normal Phase** don’t skim the thread. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/229 "2009-09-11T23:14:21Z")
ok. **unovte texcat** missing the french connection is not enough at this point. crap. **vote texcat** voting someone defending you is bad. unless you know something we don’t which is worse. shit. **unvote texcat** the scales have fallen from his eyes. in all seriousness. **vote mahaloth** jumpy on getting the votes early. jumpy on getting **dc** to respond. and as **dc** has pointed out. not jumpy when it comes to unvoting when conditions have been met without something else. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/230 "2009-09-12T00:14:17Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > ok. > > **unovte texcat** > > missing the french connection is not enough at this point. > > crap. > > **vote texcat** > > voting someone defending you is bad. unless you know something we don’t which is worse. > > shit. > > **unvote texcat** > > the scales have fallen from his eyes. > > in all seriousness. > > **vote mahaloth** > > jumpy on getting the votes early. > > jumpy on getting **dc** to respond. > > and as **dc** has pointed out. not jumpy when it comes to unvoting when conditions have been met without something else. You know? Weird as you are (or seem to be), when you’re right you’re right. **unvote texcat** **vote mahaloth** It might not be the best for me, but it seems to be the best way to go for town. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/231 "2009-09-12T00:18:15Z")
Oh, yes, your self-sacrifice is moving. 🙂 I think these are good points and am considering changing my vote, but will see what he has to say for himself. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/232 "2009-09-12T00:19:41Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > **vote mahaloth** > > jumpy on getting the votes early. > > jumpy on getting **dc** to respond. > > and as **dc** has pointed out. not jumpy when it comes to unvoting when conditions have been met without something else. I was pressing dc to respond, but I wasn’t jumpy on getting the votes early…or I have no idea what you mean by that. However, I thought I had unvoted “DC” in a later post, but apparently I haven’t. Anyway, I’ll give peeker credit for his last point, which makes sense. Unvote DiggitCamera ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/233 "2009-09-12T00:20:45Z")
Make that: **Unvote DigitCamera** By the way, his vote for me was simulpost and doesn’t affect my unvote/vote. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/234 "2009-09-12T01:24:58Z")
Updated vote count: Current Votes: **DiggitCamara (3)**: Zeriel, Freudian Slit, ColdPhoenix **Mahaloth (3)**: Nanook, peekercpa, DiggitCamara **texcat (2)**: Normal Phase, Zsofia **Nanook (1)**: Gryff **BillMC (1)**: Tom Scud **Not voting** : DarthSensitive, AllWalker, BillMC, TexCat, Mahaloth As of now **DiggitCamara** will be lynched at dusk. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/235 "2009-09-12T01:58:11Z")
I note we have one piece of information that will be very helpful–apparently when there is a tie, the first person to be voted in is the lynchee. At least judging by the “as of now X will be lynched at dusk”. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/236 "2009-09-12T02:17:54Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > I note we have one piece of information that will be very helpful–apparently when there is a tie, the first person to be voted in is the lynchee. At least judging by the “as of now X will be lynched at dusk”. unless it’s alphabetical. in which case you ought to be doing a little jig. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/237 "2009-09-12T03:17:34Z")
Before I look at the vote leaders, **Gryff** ’s [vote](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11544848&postcount=221) against **Nanook** seems strange. He is accusing Nanook of talking about not voting, but Nanook voted for **Mahaloth**. If Gryff could elaborate on this point - or someone who knows what he is talking about, if he is too busy - that would help. In the meantime, colour me confused. On looking at things closer, Nanook is confused as well (#225). Glad to see it’s not just me. All right, so it seems as though of the 3 vote leaders - **DC** , **texcat** and **Mahaloth** - there is the typical Day 1 spread caused by no one having anything to vote on. The case against **DC** seems to have mostly collapsed in the wake of his explanation. **texcat** seems a little, er, highstrung, what with voting early and misreading my arguments. This _might_ just be a factor of playing style, I don’t know - I am unfamiliar with **texcat**. The case against **Mahaloth** , though, is based on decisions made in game. A player’s actions count for a lot in this game, more than their style. I’d make a case, but you can’t beat this justification: > [@peeker](#): > > jumpy on getting the votes early. > > jumpy on getting dc to respond. > > and as dc has pointed out. not jumpy when it comes to unvoting when conditions have been met without something else. **Vote Mahaloth** though I will probably change my vote to **Gryff** if no one can explain his vote on **Nanook**. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/238 "2009-09-12T03:25:22Z")
I still don’t get what Allwalker quoted: 1. I didn’t jump on anyone for getting votes early. 2. I wasn’t “jumpy” on getting DC to respond. 3. I unvoted DC, realizing he explained his comment. I mean, why not the other people voting for DC? I’m confused about what I’ve done. I’ve tried to explain. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/239 "2009-09-12T05:03:52Z")
There were 3 posters who voted for **DC** with little explanation and after a bandwagon was established - **BillMC** , **ColdPheonix** , **Mahaloth**. Add this to [#187](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11542905&postcount=187) where Mahaloth supposes a post restriction on DC - this point I am ambivalent on. In my eyes it looks like DC thought he was explaining himself when he wasn’t, and this could look like a post restriction, but it also looked like Mah was aggressively leaping on DC for not explaining himself clearly. (That last sentence doesn’t quite make sense, but I hope I am being clear. If not I will try again when not so tired). Then there was the lack of unvoting after DC clarified his arguments, which Mah later said he simply forgot to do. In short, I think Mah has addressed these points, but I can still see a Scum angle behind it. A Town angle, too, but when isn’t that the case? ---
**Author:** ![Gryff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gryff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gryff)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/240 "2009-09-12T08:21:41Z")
Sorry for the delay in replies, I am UK based and been asleep for most of your conversations. > [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > Sorry, I’m here. I just didn’t see the point in adding yet more worthless speculation on what may or may not be Gasterd about this game. **It just seems to me we should wait until one Day has passed so we have something at least resembling actual information with which to speculate**. > > …snip… This is the snippet I was referring to. While Nanook votes in this post he also says he would prefer to wait until the results of night 1 before doing anything. This mildly anti-town, and if we weren’t forced to lynch I would expect a person saying that to vote no-lynch. Like I said it is weak, but this is day 1. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280.md?page=13)