# Inblourious Gasterds Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 8, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280 "2009-09-08T14:18:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/381 "2009-09-15T17:13:28Z")

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> [@Gryff](#):
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> I went to the original win conditions to see if our win condition specified getting all of mafia (as town’s usually does) but it says;
> 
> **You win when all threats to the town’s safety have been removed from the game.**
> 
> I really hope this is not the case, as it would remove the PIS element that most often betrays scum.

I’ve seen that kind of win condition in just about every game with a serial killer in it that I’ve played in–mostly because killing both the mafia and the serial killer is generally necessary.

Regarding the problem of finding serial killers, we do have cops. And as was said in Post 145,

[QUOTE=Hoopy Frood]  
[Gasterds’ Honest Truth]  
Well, by extrapolation the Cop will be told that the player is neither Mafia nor Town, won’t they? I would think the Cop is smart enough to figure the rest out.  
[/Gasterds’ Honest Truth]  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/382 "2009-09-15T17:31:29Z")

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NETA: we do potentially have cop(s).

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/383 "2009-09-15T20:03:02Z")

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Okay…DiggitCamara, DarthSensitive, BillMC, Nanook of the North Shore, TexCat, ColdPhoenix, come on down, guys. It’s been way too quiet, and you guys have to say something.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/384 "2009-09-15T20:29:52Z")

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Actually, Freudian, you echo my thoughts. I’m not opposed to considering the idea that the scum are sliding through silently.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/385 "2009-09-15T20:42:14Z")

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**Darth Sensitive** came in to note that, wow, you get slammed for a couple days at work and then people end up voting for you… fair enough, but then doesn’t say anything else? I’m not voting it, because I did the same thing either last game or the game before and then got lynched and I wasn’t scum, but FOS.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/386 "2009-09-15T20:45:44Z")

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I think it’s also unfair because people will end up looking at people who have posted and dissecting their posts all the more. Okay, obviously this is what we are meant to be doing. But if we have 12 people in a game and only three or four are posting a lot, then of course they will come under the most scrutiny. Even if they have said things that are fairly innocuous or even helpful.

So with that in mind, I’m going to…

**Unvote Zeriel**

And **Vote DarthSensitive**.

He wasn’t posting very much on our first day either, and I voted for him originally because of it. We need people to post so we’ll have something, anything, to go on. Frankly, the silence is really annoying, way more so than anything anyone has said.

And on preview I see the FOS from Zsofia.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/387 "2009-09-15T20:54:44Z")

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Yeah, you know what? I’m for it.

**Vote Darth Sensitive**

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/388 "2009-09-15T20:59:37Z")

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Sorry to post again but obviously I can’t edit but I just went back and found this post that you mentioned, **Zsofia**.

> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#):
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> Jaysus. I do school stuff for two days and the game jumps ahead 3 pages.
> 
> I don’t blame the voters, though I’m quiet when I’m both scum and town generally.

I think this is a weak justification for not speaking. Townies often are quiet (whether it’s because they’re busy off board or because they also fear getting lynched themselves mistakenly) but being quiet is pretty much always anti-town. None of his other posts are really screaming out anything to me but defending your quietness, especially in a game that’s been pretty slow with not that many posts really sticks out to me.

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**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/389 "2009-09-15T21:13:50Z")

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Silly me, I thought Night was two days – sounds mad doesn’t it - answers on the back of a mobius strip.

So two dead, so all we can conclude for certain is that there is at least one additional killing role in play.

I actually do find the comment that Zeriel hightlighted interesting, but for a different reason.

> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Someone was stopped, which is good…unless the role block stopped a scum kill, which would be unfortunate.

> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I meant that it would be unfortunate if the roleblock stopped a killing of a scum, like if a vigilante or serial killer tried to do that and got blocked.

What gets me here, is that if you were expecting 3 kills, why would you expect a roleblocker not to have had an equal chance of blocking the scum’s actual kill?  
Even with only two kills you seem to have assumed the scum’s kill went through.

[color=blue] **vote mahaloth**

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**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/390 "2009-09-15T21:14:50Z")

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ffs. **vote mahaloth** even

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/391 "2009-09-15T21:23:20Z")

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I should earn my keep a bit.

Current Vote Count:

\*\*Darth Sensitive (2) \*\*- Freudian Slit, Mahaloth  
\*\*Zeriel (1): \*\* - Gryff  
**Mahaloth (1)** - BillMC

**Not Voting:** - Zsofia, DiggitCamara, DarthSensitive, Nanook of the North Shore, TexCat, ColdPhoenix, Zeriel, Allwalker

Right now Darth is on the block. Sucks to be him.

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**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/392 "2009-09-15T21:27:20Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> I should earn my keep a bit..

Does gastard mod sidekick pay well?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/393 "2009-09-15T21:32:17Z")

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> [@BillMC](#):
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> What gets me here, is that if you were expecting 3 kills, why would you expect a roleblocker not to have had an equal chance of blocking the scum’s actual kill?  
> Even with only two kills you seem to have assumed the scum’s kill went through.
> 
> [color=blue] **vote mahaloth**

😕 Well, isn’t the likelihood of blocking much lower? If you want to kill someone, you just choose someone to kill. If you want to role block you have a much lower chance because not everyone has a power role.

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**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/394 "2009-09-15T21:40:19Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> 😕 Well, isn’t the likelihood of blocking much lower? If you want to kill someone, you just choose someone to kill. If you want to role block you have a much lower chance because not everyone has a power role.

my point is that the assumption/assertion maholoth seems to have made is that the blocker blocked a non-scum killer.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/395 "2009-09-15T22:06:05Z")

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> [@BillMC](#):
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> Does gastard mod sidekick pay well?

Better than you would expect.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/396 "2009-09-15T22:50:43Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Better than you would expect.

Yeah, but I should dock you pay for missing the fact that Freudian didn’t put her vote in blue. So right now, she’s not voting for anyone. Which means, Zeriel is still on the block, since he was the first to 1 vote, and no one has gone over one vote.

Correct vote count:

\*\*Zeriel (1): \*\* - Gryff  
\*\*Darth (1): \*\* - Mahaloth  
\*\*Mahaloth (1): \*\* - BillMC

**Not Voting:** - Zsofia, DiggitCamara, DarthSensitive, Nanook of the North Shore, TexCat, ColdPhoenix, Zeriel, Allwalker, Freudian Slit

As of now **Zeriel** will by lynched at Dusk.

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/397 "2009-09-15T22:57:36Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Okay…DiggitCamara, DarthSensitive, BillMC, Nanook of the North Shore, TexCat, ColdPhoenix, come on down, guys. It’s been way too quiet, and you guys have to say something.

I’ve been kinda swamped, as of late (personal life, don’tcha know) but I’ve been wondering if anyone has been keeping up on post-counts and such.

I think\*\* Freudian Slit\*\* and **Mahaloth** are on to something, concerning post counts, at least.

It’s not one of the more popular ways to get the vote out, but still:

**Vote TexCat**

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/398 "2009-09-15T23:04:38Z")

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Sorry, my liege.

**Vote DarthSensitive**

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/399 "2009-09-15T23:08:08Z")

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Now we can count Freudian as a Darth Voter (not to be confused with a Darth Vader):

Current vote count:

\*\*Darth (2): \*\* - Mahaloth, Freudian Slit  
\*\*Zeriel (1): \*\* - Gryff  
\*\*Mahaloth (1): \*\* - BillMC  
\*\*TexCat(1): \*\* - DiggitCamara

**Not Voting:** - Zsofia, DarthSensitive, Nanook of the North Shore, TexCat, ColdPhoenix, Zeriel, Allwalker

As of now **Darth** will by lynched at Dusk.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/400 "2009-09-15T23:08:32Z")

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> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> Yeah, but I should dock you pay for missing the fact that Freudian didn’t put her vote in blue. So right now, she’s not voting for anyone. Which means, Zeriel is still on the block, since he was the first to 1 vote, and no one has gone over one vote.
> 
> Correct vote count:
> 
> \*\*Zeriel (1): \*\* - Gryff  
> \*\*Darth (1): \*\* - Mahaloth  
> \*\*Mahaloth (1): \*\* - BillMC
> 
> **Not Voting:** - Zsofia, DiggitCamara, DarthSensitive, Nanook of the North Shore, TexCat, ColdPhoenix, Zeriel, Allwalker, Freudian Slit
> 
> As of now **Zeriel** will by lynched at Dusk.

Wow, good eyes man. I totally didn’t catch that. This is why you are top dog…er, well, top Gasterd or something. Zuma is top dog, it’s not really fair to give away his title like that.

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