# Inblourious Gasterds Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 8, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280 "2009-09-08T14:18:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 25

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/481 "2009-09-18T21:13:10Z")

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You sure how to make for a bloody death!

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/482 "2009-09-18T21:29:22Z")

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I don’t even know what to say now - I don’t feel like we have a damned thing to go on, and maybe it IS time to consider role claims.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/483 "2009-09-18T22:00:59Z")

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> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> I give them the spoiler info automatically in the death PM.
> 
> I’m a giver like that. (Good Cop, ya know.)

AH HA! So that’s why I haven’t been able to lure anyone onto my fake spoiler board yet. Harumph good sir.

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/484 "2009-09-18T22:16:42Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> I don’t even know what to say now - I don’t feel like we have a damned thing to go on, and maybe it IS time to consider role claims.

I’m with you on that one, but I for one haven’t figured out a good way to go around the caveats others have raised thus far.

Especially since we’ve mainly lost Vanilla Townies thus far. How can we find out whose claim is valid and whose isn’t?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/485 "2009-09-18T22:26:13Z")

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I’m stumped on that, too.

Is it safe to assume that we only have a vig and scum in terms of killers, then?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/486 "2009-09-18T22:29:51Z")

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Well. HAD a vig.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/487 "2009-09-18T22:49:11Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Who wants spoilers?

I’ll take some spoilers, NAF.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/488 "2009-09-18T23:39:06Z")

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You still want onto my spoiler board? Even after I told everyone that my board only has fake spoilers?

Eh, ok I guess. Now I suppose I actually have to go make a fake spoiler board.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/489 "2009-09-18T23:56:24Z")

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Sidenote. Is **Nanook** even playing at this point? I don’t think he’s posted in days.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/490 "2009-09-19T00:27:46Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Sidenote. Is **Nanook** even playing at this point? I don’t think he’s posted in days.

He’s been quite active, actually, on the rest of the board. He posted and hour and a half ago. Weird.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/491 "2009-09-19T00:38:08Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> He’s been quite active, actually, on the rest of the board. He posted and hour and a half ago. Weird.

I did a search for all his posts and it said the last time he posted was in this thread on the 14th…where did you see his latest one?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/492 "2009-09-19T00:40:56Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> I did a search for all his posts and it said the last time he posted was in this thread on the 14th…where did you see his latest one?

The rest of the board(SDMB), I said, not in the game.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/493 "2009-09-19T00:43:32Z")

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No, I mean, I did a search for all his posts in general, and the last one I found was a post from this thread from days ago.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/494 "2009-09-19T01:32:36Z")

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Just look at his profile.

[Nanook of the North Shore](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)

"Nanook of the North Shore Nanook of the North Shore is offline  
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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/495 "2009-09-19T01:34:09Z")

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Weird. It still says that his last post was on the 14th when I search for all his posts.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/496 "2009-09-19T01:56:40Z")

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Anyway, all that side, Nanook hasn’t posted here in a seriously long time, which makes me think he’s either lost interest or has nothing to say. I hate to say lynch the non talker yet AGAIN…but I don’t know.

You and I are speaking a lot. A few others have, too, but nothing all that seemingly scummy. Other than that, it seems like a lot of people have gone for you as scum, mostly because it seems like the easy way out. **Zeriel** seemed very eager to vote because of how you phrased something:

> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Uh-huh. Stopping the scum kill is UNfortunate. Right.
> 
> **vote Mahaloth**

(Bleached)

But a lot of other people who voted for you have ended up being townies. Hmm.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/497 "2009-09-19T01:59:31Z")

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Yes, a game like this almost seems to be encouraging silence, actually.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/498 "2009-09-19T02:12:38Z")

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Bill’s reasoning for suspecting you, **Maha** , seems a bit suspect. It is very nitpicky. I mean, I get what he’s saying–I just have no idea why it’s at all a reason to vote for someone.

> [@BillMC](#):
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> You said you were expecting three kills: vig, sk, scum. But there were only two.
> 
> You said “unless the role block stopped a scum kill”.
> 
> Zeriel read this as you saying the blocker stopped the scum making a kill.
> 
> If there are three killers, and a blocker, then the blocker would have had an equal chance of blocking vig, sk, scum. The blocker could have have stopped a scum kill, so Zeriel’s viewpoint is ok, but doesn’t strike me as odd either way.
> 
> But you said you meant the blocker stopped a scum being killed.
> 
> Out of three equally likely kill-block pairings, you appear to have assumed that the scum kill was not blocked. That’s what I find odd.

The only other “big conflict thing” that I can think of was this. I’d think that if Zeriel and Bill were both scum they’d have gunned harder for you, but who knows. Both of them seemed to be nit picking. I respect Bill a little more for sticking with his position, though, because he had some reasoning at least.

Which takes me to: Nanook of the North Shore, ColdPhoenix, Zeriel all didn’t vote for anyone at all yesterDay though which pings me as really bad. A vote for no one is a vote for a random kill. It’s like you clearly just don’t care enough to take a stand. It’s like being dead weight. So, my FOS on all of these players at this point.

What are our collective thoughts on how many killers we have? Clearly we have scum and we had a vigilante. We also had two kills the night before (though there was some debate on whether more than one person had targeted peeker). However that whole peeker getting killed by someone or someones could have been just color, meaning we have no serial killer, and just had scum and a vig. If it wasn’t color, and more than one person went after peeker, then we presumably have/had 3 killers: scum, serial killer, and vig. Which would mean that last night, either the vig couldn’t kill because he was killed last night, or someone was blocked. The wishful side of me says we should just focus on what we do have.

I’m also afraid that we don’t have that many power roles because there have been SO many vanillas dead. The only power role we’ve come across was vigilante. Here’s hoping there’s a cop or a doctor out there.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/499 "2009-09-19T02:20:39Z")

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NETA: Ok, Zeriel did vote for Mahaloth and then took that vote off when no one else was going along with it. But Zeriel didn’t bother to change to anyone else.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/500 "2009-09-19T02:31:14Z")

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Well, let’s just ask.

What was the strategy in NOT voting yesterDay?

???

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