# Inblourious Gasterds Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 8, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280 "2009-09-08T14:18:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/581 "2009-09-23T08:37:37Z")
Okay, I’ve just gone through the first days voting. Took longer than I thought (and I’m supposed to be working!) so I might do the other days later but I’m not promising anything. People who voted for Mahaloth: Peeker Tom Scud \* Normal Phase \* Diggit Nanook AllWalker \* People with an \* voted for him at a stage where it was looking like he’d be lynched. Unfortunately only Diggit is still alive. In my opinion he looks like town. Also, FOS on Freudian for a late day vote swith to ensure Mahaloth’s safety, quote: "Yes–if it’s coming down to you (_meaning Mahaloth: added by CP_) and Tom Scud, I’ll go with him. Unvote Darth Sensitive Vote Tom Scud" ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/582 "2009-09-23T08:39:29Z")
Annoyed that I didn’t format my last post very well… > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Yes–if it’s coming down to you and Tom Scud, I’ll go with him. > > **Unvote Darth Sensitive** > \*\* > Vote Tom Scud\*\* This is the post I mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/583 "2009-09-23T08:43:13Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Things we now know: > > 1. We have at least one doc who knows what he’s doing, since we had two kills before the vig died and two kills afterwards. > > Things I wish I knew: > > 1. Why did Nanook lie and say he was a serial killer? Or was he telling the truth (and did he have incentive not to do so?) and the reveals are inaccurate? > 2. Related to 1), does the fact that Mahaloth is supposedly a scum goon in the reveal indicate a) that he was actually a scum goon or b) that the mods are screwing with us. > > Also, pending an explanation from ColdPhoenix, his comment sounds an awful lot like “I’m happy the doc lied about being an SK and then got lynched!” > **vote ColdPhoenix**. Not so sure about the doc being correct or if we have one. Scum/vigs/SKs may have targetted the same person. Why did \*\*Nanook \*\*lie? My WAG is that he was annoyed at being (in his opinion) unfairly lynched when he’d pc troubles and tried to stir things. ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/584 "2009-09-23T08:52:25Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Pointing out that there are fluff posts. It’s a good point that there are a lot of fluff posts at night, but at the same time, I think most of the people who were posting at night were also the ones doing most of the day time posting. This comes off as defensive to me–a way of defending the fact that he hasn’t contributed all that much. You don’t have to post fluff–you can post suspicions, ideas, strategy, anything. Just don’t be dead weight. > > A solid “me too.” I mean, he basically admits he’s just going along with the crowd. Which is what scum tries to do but usually are smart enough not to call attention to it. They try to slip by, voting people they clearly know are town, and often they don’t have good reasons and they just jump on a bandwagon. Here’s a guy TELLING US HE’S VOTING BAND WAGON. > > As for not voting **Darth** , he didn’t vote for anyone else that day either. > > Making or agreeing with the points that others have made. A lot of “me toos,” no real substance. It’s like his play strategy is don’t make waves. Someone who’s town might be afraid of getting lynched erroneously but a townie would also try to open up discussion. I think he’s scum who’s just trying to float on by. > For those reasons, **Vote ColdPhoenix.** I think I have added to the thread as much as anyone else. My saying it was a “me too” vote was my attempt at transparency. You’ve jumped on more bandwagons that I have. I did the “me too” vote as I still had no strong suspicions but got questioned on not voting by \*\*Mahaloth \*\* before! ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/585 "2009-09-23T08:55:22Z")
> [@BillMC](#): > > Well nice to see I (and Zeriel) was right about Mahaloth’s slip on Day 2. > > So we either have another vig, or an sk in play; and looks like Nanook chose well on N1, and N2 to prevent additional kills. > > I’m not quite seeing the case against ColdPhoenix, I’ll need to have a re-read later tonight. I didn’t get that far in the thread. If what you say’s true then it will be nice to have a couple more people that I feel are likely(ish!) to be town. I’ll have a look for it later. ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/586 "2009-09-23T09:01:24Z")
I’ll go through and give my opinions the postulated theories on \*\*Nanook’s \*\*claim and potential gastardlyness later today. I’ve been staring at this screen for too long… ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/587 "2009-09-23T12:48:01Z")
> [@ColdPhoenix](#): > > Okay, I’ve just gone through the first days voting. Took longer than I thought (and I’m supposed to be working!) so I might do the other days later but I’m not promising anything. > > People who voted for Mahaloth: > Peeker > Tom Scud \* > Normal Phase \* > Diggit > Nanook > AllWalker \* > > People with an \* voted for him at a stage where it was looking like he’d be lynched. > > Unfortunately only Diggit is still alive. In my opinion he looks like town. > > Also, FOS on Freudian for a late day vote swith to ensure Mahaloth’s safety, quote: > > "Yes–if it’s coming down to you (_meaning Mahaloth: added by CP_) and Tom Scud, I’ll go with him. > > Unvote Darth Sensitive > > Vote Tom Scud" In response to this, in all honesty, I didn’t think Mahaloth was a threat. And after that it just seemed like people were on him so much b/c he was an easy lynch. Ppl wanted to get him first day and it was just easy to pile on a bandwagon. I never saw that case–in retrospect I wish I had, but it seemed like he was one of the only players who was pro-town…very few others were posting all that much and I thought for sure he was town. ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/588 "2009-09-23T15:20:22Z")
Apologies in advance for the long post… Rereading with knowledge that \*\*Mahaloth \*\*was scum. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Diggit, are you banned from responding or explaining yourself or something? > > Vote DigitCamera > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Self-defense vote: > > Vote DiggitCamera\*\* \*\*Diggit \*\*looks town to me. > [@Zeriel](#): > > Uh-huh. Stopping the scum kill is UNfortunate. Right. > > vote Mahaloth \*\*Zeriel \*\*looks good. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > 1. He is essentially asking town to give him two free passes on voting for Bill and ColdPhoenix, since he can just list them as other “bandwagoners” toMorrow. Looks mildly good for me and **Bill** > [@BillMC](#): > > ffs. **vote mahaloth** even Looks better for **Bill**. > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Yes–if it’s coming down to you and Tom Scud, I’ll go with him. > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > I assumed **Mahaloth** meant killing a scum. Not blocking a scum from killing. > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > 😕 Well, isn’t the likelihood of blocking much lower? If you want to kill someone, you just choose someone to kill. If you want to role block you have a much lower chance because not everyone has a power role. > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > As opposed to a vig kill? > > I don’t really see how that’s a scummy assumption to make. > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Bill’s reasoning for suspecting you, **Maha** , seems a bit suspect. It is very nitpicky. I mean, I get what he’s saying–I just have no idea why it’s at all a reason to vote for someone. > > Which takes me to: Nanook of the North Shore, ColdPhoenix, Zeriel all didn’t vote for anyone at all yesterDay though which pings me as really bad. A vote for no one is a vote for a random kill. It’s like you clearly just don’t care enough to take a stand. It’s like being dead weight. So, my FOS on all of these players at this point. \*\*Freudian’s \*\*repeated defence of Mahaloth looks suspect. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Well, let’s just ask. > > What was the strategy in NOT voting yesterDay? > > ??? This plus the last of my quoted \*\*Freudian \*\*posts are why I did the “bandwagon” vote. I had no suspicions of anyone until now. In my opinion: \*\*Freudian \*\*looks scum \*\*Diggit, BillMC and Zeriel \*\*do not look scum (though one may be an SK). \*\*Zsofia \*\*I believe may well be scum as I think 2 (\*\*Maha \*\*plus **FS** ) is too small a number and I know I’m not scum. So **Vote Freudian** ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/589 "2009-09-23T16:27:03Z")
I don’t understand why you’re assuming that Mahaloth is scum when it seems most people agree that there’s something, we don’t know what, screwy with the role reveals. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/590 "2009-09-23T16:28:03Z")
NETA - I just saw up above where you think I may be scum now, but not Diggit, Bill, and Zeriel. Why, exactly? Know something I don’t? ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/591 "2009-09-23T16:59:03Z")
Current vote count: **ColdPhoenix (2):** Zeriel, Freudian Slit **Freudian Slit (1):** ColdPhoenix **Not Voting:** Zsofia, DiggitCamara, BillMC As of now **ColdPhoenix** will by lynched at Dusk. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/592 "2009-09-23T17:21:01Z")
To respond to your claims, **CP** , I reiterate that I genuinely though **Maha** was a townie. I was wrong. Your posts though strike me as someone who has just gotten by saying or doing very little, having no suspicions, and is only now posting an analysis to get out of being lynched. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/593 "2009-09-23T17:40:58Z")
Right now, until I get an explanation I’m going to **vote ColdPhoenix** not as an OMGUS vote, since he didn’t even vote me, but as a “why exactly is it supposed to be me who might be scum?” and also “why exactly are you assuming that Mahaloth was, in fact, scum”? ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/594 "2009-09-23T19:01:37Z")
I’ll be the first to agree that I think unless we have more information about the role reveals vs. what people think they are, it’s impossible to determine the veracity of the role reveals. I’d like everyone to consider claiming truthfully immediately before lynch if they are to be lynched–unless you are a PFK this will benefit you directly (by helping your team, scum or town, determine what’s actually going on) and if you’re PFK, you’ve just lost anyway when you’re lynched, so why hold back? =) I realize it’s late in the game for this kind of strategy, but one data point (combined with Nanook’s claim vs. the reveal) would go a long way. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/595 "2009-09-23T19:30:05Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > I’d like everyone to consider claiming truthfully immediately before lynch if they are to be lynched–unless you are a PFK this will benefit you directly (by helping your team, scum or town, determine what’s actually going on) and if you’re PFK, you’ve just lost anyway when you’re lynched, so why hold back? =) I realize it’s late in the game for this kind of strategy, but one data point (combined with Nanook’s claim vs. the reveal) would go a long way. This I think I could get on board with. It’s the only chance we really have of unraveling what’s going on. I wish **AllWalker** had role claimed before he got killed. He was suggesting that we role claim, but I’m not sure if that was a subtle way of saying he had a power role or if that was him genuinely asking others to come forward. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/596 "2009-09-23T19:42:59Z")
Current vote count: **ColdPhoenix (2):** Zeriel, Freudian Slit, Zsofia **Freudian Slit (1):** ColdPhoenix **Not Voting:** DiggitCamara, BillMC As of now **ColdPhoenix** will by lynched at Dusk. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/597 "2009-09-23T21:41:37Z")
I’m sorry if I’ve kinda simmered down. At-work issues. But I’ll have to delay my vote until I have at least analyzed a bit more of our esteemed mod’s interactions; there has to be some clue about the “gastard” part of the game. I want to focus especially on the color commentary. I hope to be able to do it before Night falls. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/598 "2009-09-23T22:52:30Z")
Good good, do pay extra attention to anything involving sharks, those were mine.\* \*Technically they were all written by Hoopy, but the sharks were my idea. I like sharks. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/599 "2009-09-23T23:28:01Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Good good, do pay extra attention to anything involving sharks, those were mine.\* > > \*Technically they were all written by Hoopy, but the sharks were my idea. I like sharks. Why don’t they have frakkin’ lasers then? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/600 "2009-09-23T23:35:02Z")
> [@DiggitCamara](#): > > Why don’t they have frakkin’ lasers then? I did sharks with frakkin’ lasers in the Pirate mafia and I didn’t want to repeat myself (also, I sort of assumed that Hoopy would just understand that they were sharks with frakkin’ lasers, but what are you going to do?). Go check it out. It was a very similar scene but with lasers instead of a sword duel. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280.md?page=31)