# Inblourious Gasterds Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 8, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280 "2009-09-08T14:18:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 31

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**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/601 "2009-09-24T00:08:27Z")

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> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> Current vote count:
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> **ColdPhoenix (2):** Zeriel, Freudian Slit, Zsofia  
> **Freudian Slit (1):** ColdPhoenix
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> **Not Voting:** DiggitCamara, BillMC
> 
> As of now **ColdPhoenix** will by lynched at Dusk.

Is the vote count correct? or does Zsofia’s vote not count?

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**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/602 "2009-09-24T00:11:45Z")

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I do agree with some of ColdPhoenix’s argument against Freudian - some of the interaction with Mahaloth can be viewed as blatant snuggling – indeed, possibly too blatant if they knew each other were scum.

Zeriel, you seem to be suggesting that the flips are lies – the flipside is that the roles we have been given are lies, and we don’t know who we are. It would explain why Nanook thought he was SK, and that FS was a Doc – Nanook’s “kill” action on FS may have actually been a protect.

**Are the card flips the gastard truth?**

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/603 "2009-09-24T00:54:39Z")

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Sure, why not say yes? Just because we haven’t answered any of your questions up until now means nothing. Totally Gasterd Truth there.

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/604 "2009-09-24T01:45:57Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> I did sharks with frakkin’ lasers in the Pirate mafia and I didn’t want to repeat myself (also, I sort of assumed that Hoopy would just understand that they were sharks with frakkin’ lasers, but what are you going to do?). Go check it out. It was a very similar scene but with lasers instead of a sword duel.

Dude: I suggested the frakkin’ lasers for that death scene.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/605 "2009-09-24T01:46:54Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> I did sharks with frakkin’ lasers in the Pirate mafia and I didn’t want to repeat myself (also, I sort of assumed that Hoopy would just understand that they were sharks with frakkin’ lasers, but what are you going to do?). Go check it out. It was a very similar scene but with lasers instead of a sword duel.

Hey, I would have understood them to be sharks with frakkin’ lasers except you specified that they were to challenge the lynchee to a sword fight. Why would sharks with frakkin’ lasers even bother with swords? Huh, smart guy? Care to answer that one? They’d just shoot the frakker with their frakkin’ lasers, not challenge him to a duel first. So the lasers got left out.

So if you wanted sharks with frakkin’ lasers and were disappointed because you didn’t get sharks with frakkin’ lasers you can all blame NAF for that one.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/606 "2009-09-24T01:48:52Z")

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> [@DiggitCamara](#):
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> Dude: I suggested the frakkin’ lasers for that death scene.

Well sure, but clearly you forgot or you wouldn’t have been asking.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/607 "2009-09-24T01:49:54Z")

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> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> Hey, I would have understood them to be sharks with frakkin’ lasers except you specified that they were to challenge the lynchee to a sword fight. Why would sharks with frakkin’ lasers even bother with swords? Huh, smart guy? Care to answer that one? They’d just shoot the frakker with their frakkin’ lasers, not challenge him to a duel first. So the lasers got left out.
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> So if you wanted sharks with frakkin’ lasers and were disappointed because you didn’t get sharks with frakkin’ lasers you can all blame NAF for that one.

They went for the sword fight because it was more sporting and they were bored. Sheesh, I thought we went over this.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/608 "2009-09-24T01:50:34Z")

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> [@BillMC](#):
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> Is the vote count correct? or does Zsofia’s vote not count?

It counts. The previous vote count was an error that was all NAF’s fault.

The corrected count:

**ColdPhoenix (3):** Zeriel, Freudian Slit, Zsofia  
**Freudian Slit (1):** ColdPhoenix

**Not Voting:** DiggitCamara, BillMC

As of now **ColdPhoenix** will by lynched at Dusk.

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**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/609 "2009-09-24T02:56:54Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> They went for the sword fight because it was more sporting and they were bored. Sheesh, I thought we went over this.

Foil, Epee or Sabre?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/610 "2009-09-24T03:27:00Z")

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How about the sharks that ride elephants, stamping and eating everything in their path? With lazers in their SHARK BUTTS?!

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/611 "2009-09-24T04:09:04Z")

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Weelll… my foray into the depths of \*\*Hoopy \*\*cum \*\*NAF’s \*\*murky prose has yielded

[spoiler]nothing. They’re both jerkfaces (made you look, though)

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It seems to me that the whole misdirection (of roles) would actually be advantageous to scum. Think about it: They know who’s on their side, and should any of their number die, they’d know it.

I don’t think our gasterdly moderators would do that.

[spoiler]It wouldn’t be equal-opportunity jerkfacery.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/612 "2009-09-24T04:27:15Z")

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Well, they’re doing SOMETHING - I just don’t think Nanook lied. I just honestly don’t believe he would, or see why.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/613 "2009-09-24T04:28:31Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> Well, they’re doing SOMETHING - I just don’t think Nanook lied. I just honestly don’t believe he would, or see why.

Yeah. If he was fed up, wouldn’t he just say, “Lynch me, whatever?” And if he wanted us to genuinely NOT LYNCH him, claiming what he really was (doctor) would make sense. That’s a useful role. But claiming to be SK is like a straight ticket to being killed.

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**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/614 "2009-09-24T08:27:50Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> “why exactly are you assuming that Mahaloth was, in fact, scum”?

> [@Zsofia](#):
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> I don’t understand why you’re assuming that Mahaloth is scum when it seems most people agree that there’s something, we don’t know what, screwy with the role reveals.

There are 2 reasons why I think the role reveals are correct.

1. It would be totally unfair. There would be no way for town to win as they could never get solid information.

2. The following from our mod:

> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> [Gasterds’ Honest Truth]  
> Role-reveal will occur upon death of a player.  
> [/Gasterds’ Honest Truth]

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**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/615 "2009-09-24T08:36:55Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> NETA - I just saw up above where you think I may be scum now, but not Diggit, Bill, and Zeriel. Why, exactly? Know something I don’t?

I only think you’re possible scum through the process of elimination based on \*\*Mahaloth \*\*being scum.  
\*\*Diggit \*\*looks good dues to \*\*Mahaloth \*\*trying to get him lynched.  
\*\*Bill \*\*and \*\*Zeriel \*\*look good due to them voting for **Mahaloth**.  
That (from my perspective) leaves just you and **Freudian**.

Admittedly one of **Bill** /\*\*Zeriel \*\*may be scum and have voted \*\*Mahaloth \*\*in the knowledge they’d remove it if he looked like being lynched.

> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Yeah. If he was fed up, wouldn’t he just say, “Lynch me, whatever?” And if he wanted us to genuinely NOT LYNCH him, claiming what he really was (doctor) would make sense. That’s a useful role. But claiming to be SK is like a straight ticket to being killed.

Potentially. I don’t know \*\*Nanook \*\*but it could also be an annoyed person having an amusing (for them) goodbye joke to screw with us.

Zeriel, does my explanation of the comment that caused you to vote for me not seem fair?

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/616 "2009-09-24T12:45:55Z")

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So are you going to offer an HONEST role claim before your lynch, as requested?

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/617 "2009-09-24T12:54:46Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> So are you going to offer an HONEST role claim before your lynch, as requested?

Good point.

**C.P.** , the only reason why I haven’t voted for you yet is because I’m kind of a procastrinator. The case against you is pretty strong. So: Do you have a good reason I shouldn’t vote for you?

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**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/618 "2009-09-24T12:58:12Z")

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I’m hoping I don’t get lynched! 😃

While you may not agree with it from your point of view, do you agree with my logic on scum likelihoods from my perspective as town? If not, what is wrong with my argument?

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**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/619 "2009-09-24T13:00:28Z")

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> [@DiggitCamara](#):
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> **C.P.** , the only reason why I haven’t voted for you yet is because I’m kind of a procastrinator. The case against you is pretty strong. So: Do you have a good reason I shouldn’t vote for you?

Really? What exactly is the case against me?

I’m not trying to be awkward, but I really don’t know. The accusations started from that one comment which was innocent and that I feel I’ve explained adequately, but let me know if I haven’t.

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**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/620 "2009-09-24T13:02:41Z")

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> [@DiggitCamara](#):
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> Do you have a good reason I shouldn’t vote for you?

My best reason is my argument against \*\*Freudian \*\*who I believe is very likely scum.

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