# Inblourious Gasterds Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 8, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280 "2009-09-08T14:18:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/621 "2009-09-24T13:13:11Z")
> [@ColdPhoenix](#): > > Really? What exactly is the case against me? > > I’m not trying to be awkward, but I really don’t know. The accusations started from that one comment which was innocent and that I feel I’ve explained adequately, but let me know if I haven’t. Well, to start with: scum (especially scum who has played this game) is very very likely to sell out a fellow scum at the beginning of the game. So: the case you make to defend me is actually a fallacy (if we take the role reveals at face value, of course). ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/622 "2009-09-24T15:05:56Z")
> [@ColdPhoenix](#): > > There are 2 reasons why I think the role reveals are correct. > > 1. It would be totally unfair. There would be no way for town to win as they could never get solid information. > > 2. The following from our mod: Well, it would be unfair, but who knows? Maybe it’s still winnable. And as for two, he said roles would be revealed…just not which roles. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/623 "2009-09-24T15:31:28Z")
> [@DiggitCamara](#): > > Weelll… my foray into the depths of \*\*Hoopy \*\*cum \*\*NAF’s \*\*murky prose has yielded > > [spoiler]nothing. They’re both jerkfaces (made you look, though) > > [/spoiler] > > It seems to me that the whole misdirection (of roles) would actually be advantageous to scum. Think about it: They know who’s on their side, and should any of their number die, they’d know it. > > I don’t think our gasterdly moderators would do that. > > [spoiler]It wouldn’t be equal-opportunity jerkfacery. > > [/spoiler] There has been a bit of argument on the spoiler boards as to the points you may or may not have earned from the jerkface bonus in this post. Some say you didn’t call us out individually, but other say you did call both of us out in a creative fashion. I agree with the latter camp. 36 points to you! Nice work. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/624 "2009-09-24T15:43:52Z")
> [@BillMC](#): > > Foil, Epee or Sabre? Obviously they use claymores, for they were sharks drawing on their Scottish ethnicity. They’ve abandoned the kilts though. Too much drag in the water. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/625 "2009-09-24T17:41:09Z")
> [@ColdPhoenix](#): > > I’m hoping I don’t get lynched! 😃 > > While you may not agree with it from your point of view, do you agree with my logic on scum likelihoods from my perspective as town? If not, what is wrong with my argument? I think it really, really reeks of scummitude for you to reject what to me seems like a pretty obvious tip-off that there’s something hinky with the role reveals. Now, I assume that since the mods said it was a playable game that it’s somewhat balanced - maybe the scum also have a handicap - but if I were scum in this game I’d be throwing up smoke screens on the mod action too. Like you are. I think you’re acting like you know something we don’t. And I think you don’t want to role claim because in case you don’t get lynched you are not going to want to nail yourself down like that. I think you stink to high heaven of anti-Town actions and I am not going to let you FOS me for not voting for somebody who might not even be scum. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/626 "2009-09-24T18:26:02Z")
> [@ColdPhoenix](#): > > Admittedly one of **Bill** /\*\*Zeriel \*\*may be scum and have voted \*\*Mahaloth \*\*in the knowledge they’d remove it if he looked like being lynched. That would have been pretty clever of me, considering I voted him for a specific slip and then retracted that vote before anyone else voted for him because no one else who spoke up to that point thought it was a slip. ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/627 "2009-09-24T18:50:57Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > I think it really, really reeks of scummitude for you to reject what to me seems like a pretty obvious tip-off that there’s something hinky with the role reveals. I don’t think it is obvious that there’s a problem with the role reveals. My earlier post gives my reasons. > [@Zeriel](#): > > That would have been pretty clever of me, considering I voted him for a specific slip and then retracted that vote before anyone else voted for him because no one else who spoke up to that point thought it was a slip. Yeah, that’s why I think you’re probably town. As I said earlier. It’s looking pretty likely I’m getting lynched now. Would someone like to articulate the “strong” case against me? I’d just be interested to know before I go. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/628 "2009-09-24T19:13:23Z")
Well, I think your insistence that the roles are what they say they are (Maha=scum, and his defenders are also scum) is bad playing. We know we’re in a gastard set up plus with Nanook…why are you so insistent on that? I also think that you played with very little commital, just trying to squeak by without really making waves, which is how scum often plays. You haven’t really done anything to try to encourage discussion. You’ve just floated, in my opinion. I posted my analysis which you obviously disagreed with. Will you at least agree to tell us what you genuinely are right before you die? ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/629 "2009-09-24T19:28:41Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Well, I think your insistence that the roles are what they say they are (Maha=scum, and his defenders are also scum) is bad playing. We know we’re in a gastard set up plus with Nanook…why are you so insistent on that? > > I also think that you played with very little commital, just trying to squeak by without really making waves, which is how scum often plays. You haven’t really done anything to try to encourage discussion. You’ve just floated, in my opinion. I posted my analysis which you obviously disagreed with. > > Will you at least agree to tell us what you genuinely are right before you die? That’d be nice. But I don’t see him cooperating too much from now on. **Vote ColdPhoenix** ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/630 "2009-09-24T20:09:19Z")
Current vote count: **ColdPhoenix (4):** Zeriel, Freudian Slit, Zsofia, DiggitCamara **Freudian Slit (1):** ColdPhoenix **Not Voting:** BillMC As of now **ColdPhoenix** will by lynched at Dusk. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/631 "2009-09-24T20:40:29Z")
He’s not going to role claim, because he’s scum and he thinks keeping the setup obscured will help his side. ---
**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/632 "2009-09-24T21:38:19Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > He’s not going to role claim, because he’s scum and he thinks keeping the setup obscured will help his side. Well with the numbers against him, I would have expected a claim. But since he hasn’t, may as well make it unanimous **vote coldphoenix** ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/633 "2009-09-25T00:56:41Z")
Current vote count: **ColdPhoenix (5):** Zeriel, Freudian Slit, Zsofia, DiggitCamara, BillMC **Freudian Slit (1):** ColdPhoenix As of now **ColdPhoenix** will by lynched at Dusk. ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/634 "2009-09-25T07:22:41Z")
I have always planned to honestly claim, just as I have always told the truth in this thread. I didn’t answer the questions on whether I would claim in case a statement that I would honestly claim would encourage my lynch to get information. Obviously that strategy didn’t work very well. 😉 I truly believe that my theories on who is likely scum and not are true, hopefully people will remember them after my lynch and role reveal. If things stay as they are I’ll be claiming before the day’s out. I obviously have a lot to learn about this game! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/635 "2009-09-25T10:17:11Z")
> [@ColdPhoenix](#): > > I have always planned to honestly claim, just as I have always told the truth in this thread. > > I didn’t answer the questions on whether I would claim in case a statement that I would honestly claim would encourage my lynch to get information. Obviously that strategy didn’t work very well. 😉 > > I truly believe that my theories on who is likely scum and not are true, hopefully people will remember them after my lynch and role reveal. > > If things stay as they are I’ll be claiming before the day’s out. > > I obviously have a lot to learn about this game! 🙂 If you think your claim will change opinion, then it is better to claim sooner rather than later, and give folks the opportunity to evaluate your claim. Too many times have folk claimed at the last minute, and still get lynched coz folk aren’t around to change their vote. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/636 "2009-09-25T12:52:59Z")
Agreed. I’d rather see a role claim now than later. ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/637 "2009-09-25T18:04:32Z")
I’d prefer town to win than scum, so I was trying to catch them with my post \*\*Mahaloth \*\*analysis. I know I killed **Normal Phase** and **TexCat** , but I also killed **Mahaloth** so I wasn’t all bad! Heck, what am I saying, I’d have killed you all if I’d the chance!!! Mwahahahahahah! My name’s **ColdPhoenix** , and I’m a Seriel Killer. ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/638 "2009-09-25T18:05:43Z")
Enjoy the rest of the game. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/639 "2009-09-25T18:26:30Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Obviously they use claymores, for they were sharks drawing on their Scottish ethnicity. They’ve abandoned the kilts though. Too much drag in the water. And being good scottish sharks they had nothing on under their kilts ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/640 "2009-09-25T18:27:01Z")
This is odd to say the least. Were Nanook and CP lied to vis a vis being SKs? Is one of them in fact an SK? Are they both? Are there more? That is, Nanook’s “reveal” was that he was a Town Doctor. Was he given the SK role in PM but in actuality he was really town? Or is he actually an SK and is the reveal a lie? I’m assuming you, CP, got the SK PM. I’m just wondering if you’ll come up Town and if you do come up Town, what that even means. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280.md?page=33)