# Inblourious Gasterds Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 8, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280 "2009-09-08T14:18:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 37

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/721 "2009-09-30T20:13:19Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Heh, I hate three-way ties anyway.

It would have been a fifteen-way tie. I had my “Everybody wins! _ **GROUP HUG** _” post all ready, too.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/722 "2009-09-30T20:18:04Z")

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For the record, my strategy in the betrayal was to assume the trend of ‘one kill a night’ would continue, then be here and ready to snipe the vote–I’d surmised (incorrectly) that the particular tie-breaking mechanics would allow a one-vs-one showdown to boil down to “who voted first”.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/723 "2009-09-30T20:23:25Z")

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In retrospect, I’m not sure WHY I thought there was a trend of one kill a night.

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**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/724 "2009-09-30T20:25:28Z")

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lol - good game

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/725 "2009-09-30T20:34:11Z")

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I have NEVER won a Mafia game before! Not as town, not as scum… I feel so warm and happy inside.

**Normal Phase** , in a way your slip made it more interesting.

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/726 "2009-09-30T20:37:06Z")

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Fun game, but I think it’s time to lynch the gasterds. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/727 "2009-09-30T20:41:32Z")

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Amusing, so **Zeriel** ’s double-cross ended up ensuring that she would lose, while, if she had dealt honestly, she would have won.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/728 "2009-09-30T20:43:35Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Amusing, so **Zeriel** ’s double-cross ended up ensuring that she would lose, while, if she had dealt honestly, she would have won.

He. Click through to his profile and read his signature.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/729 "2009-09-30T20:45:19Z")

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> I have NEVER won a Mafia game before! Not as town, not as scum… I feel so warm and happy inside.

On the contrary, you were one of the winners in [Munchkin Mini Mafia](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10911851&postcount=968) (which I just looked up to double-check whether the CG winner was you or **Zeriel** ).

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/730 "2009-09-30T21:07:22Z")

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I was? I have no memory of that.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/731 "2009-09-30T21:29:15Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Congrats! But wait, I’m confused. If Zeriel double crossed and killed Diggit, and so did Zsofia, then why did Zeriel die, too?
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> Diggit got two votes, Zeriel got one, and Zsofia got zero. Or were you just doing the top two?

The general idea was to do the top two every Night, except for one Night of one kill only.

But the final night was always going to be three players with two kills unless they circle killed, in which case everyone is dead, and everyone wins. (It’s all explained in the setup on the spoiler board, though, the final color gives a good synopsis of it.)

Incidentally, the color I had for an all death scenario was similar, though, rather than the explanation coming out of conversation, it was almost all narrative except for the cameos by NAF and I which were going to happen regardless of the outcome.

Hope you all had fun!

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**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/732 "2009-09-30T21:29:52Z")

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I’m not surprised:

> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> “See…” Hoopy explained. "You’ve been a part of an experiment that itself is part of a larger experiment and psychological study. You volunteered for it, even. Though, you probably don’t remember, since most of your memory of the events was wiped. In fact, almost all your memories were wiped.

Nice color and congrats on your win! Half-way through the game my guess-at-the-gastard was that everyone would flip vanilla town :).

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/733 "2009-09-30T21:35:34Z")

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> [@Natlaw](#):
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> Nice color

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/734 "2009-09-30T21:36:32Z")

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> [@Natlaw](#):
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> I’m not surprised:  
> Nice color and congrats on your win! Half-way through the game my guess-at-the-gastard was that everyone would flip vanilla town :).

Hah. Read the spoiler board. A couple days in, Hoopy was bitching about how nobody had lynched or killed anyone but vanilla town yet. It would have been fun if one of the “scum” had flipped earlier.

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/735 "2009-09-30T21:44:59Z")

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Sad thing is, just befor **Normal Phase** ’s slip I was starting to figure the thole thing out (especially since **Cold Phoenix** had claimed he’d killed every Night.).

At first I’d thought maybe every psycho had an alternate role which would trigger every second Night or so but I think I might have guessed the setup as soon as **Cold** ’s card had been flipped.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/736 "2009-09-30T21:51:21Z")

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Everything on the spoiler boards is open now. You should be able to go read and post there.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/737 "2009-09-30T21:59:57Z")

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Thanks for the explanation, **Hoopy**.

> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Hah. Read the spoiler board. A couple days in, Hoopy was bitching about how nobody had lynched or killed anyone but vanilla town yet. It would have been fun if one of the “scum” had flipped earlier.

Heh. Actually, I remember hoping at one point that **Mahaloth** wouldn’t flip to being scum because of all my vigorous defenses. Though by the time **Maha** did die, no one seemed to attack me because of it except for one person, I think. If **Maha** and I had died earlier on and we’d both flipped scum and people were still playing as though it were a normal scum game, I think they would have been congratulating themselves and then trying to look for whoever had agreed with us. It made for an interesting dynamic.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/738 "2009-09-30T22:39:13Z")

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The spoiler boards still require registration and approval.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/739 "2009-09-30T22:41:14Z")

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Really? I must have missed something. Give me a second.  
Ok, try it now.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/740 "2009-09-30T22:45:12Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Thanks for the explanation, **Hoopy**.
> 
> Heh. Actually, I remember hoping at one point that **Mahaloth** wouldn’t flip to being scum because of all my vigorous defenses. Though by the time **Maha** did die, no one seemed to attack me because of it except for one person, I think. If **Maha** and I had died earlier on and we’d both flipped scum and people were still playing as though it were a normal scum game, I think they would have been congratulating themselves and then trying to look for whoever had agreed with us. It made for an interesting dynamic.

As I pointed out in the spoiler board, every single “scum” voted to lynch me on turn 1. Too bad that never made much of a difference.

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