# Inblourious Gasterds Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 8, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280 "2009-09-08T14:18:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/141 "2009-09-10T21:44:58Z")

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Well, I suppose if someone pops up Tomorrow and says something like, “Hey guys, I tried to kill Normal Phase and she turned me into a newt! (I got better)”, then I should definitely worry about dishonest PMs.

(Sorry, too much Monty Python exposure lately.)

I think the role-changing thing that was also mentioned could be an interesting possibility, but I can’t even begin to guess how they might implement it.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/142 "2009-09-10T21:55:09Z")

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Yeah, I was mainly trying to figure out what we could be 100% Gasterd’s-Honor sure of, which comes down to:

1 - No Scum Power Roles

and

2 - No third party roles besides SKs (so no bombers or jesters or other things I personally haven’t heard of because I don’t know all that much).

I thought at first we could 100% rely on Cop investigations, and I still think those are likely, but I can’t 100% discount the possibility of dishonest role PMs, which means there might be hidden failure rates or other similar problems.

Anyway, I’m not sure what any of that means for strategy.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/143 "2009-09-10T22:00:59Z")

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I’m trying to think of the most gasterdly thing I can think of. What about totally hidden factions that we know nothing about? I just keep thinking that since others have pointed out that there may be other roles, why not an entirely new faction that’s neither town nor scum?

Also, an invisible green alien that only certain roles can see. 😃

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/144 "2009-09-10T22:01:49Z")

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Strategy, what strategy? 🙂

You mention cops, so I went back and read that PM with your post in mind. Indeed no failure rate mentioned, and no Millers or Godfathers, but:

> [@Hoopy Frood](#):
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> I will tell you whether that player is Mafia or Town.

What about Serial Killers?

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/145 "2009-09-10T22:15:27Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Strategy, what strategy? 🙂
> 
> You mention cops, so I went back and read that PM with your post in mind. Indeed no failure rate mentioned, and no Millers or Godfathers, but:
> 
> What about Serial Killers?

[Gasterds’ Honest Truth]  
Well, by extrapolation the Cop will be told that the player is neither Mafia nor Town, won’t they? I would think the Cop is smart enough to figure the rest out.  
[/Gasterds’ Honest Truth]

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/146 "2009-09-10T22:18:35Z")

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> [@BillMC](#):
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> I like the colour 😃

We aim to please. If you like that, just wait until dusk!

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/147 "2009-09-10T22:19:11Z")

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I agree with **NAF** ; honest mods are boring.

(Thanks.)

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/148 "2009-09-10T22:21:02Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Also, an invisible green alien that only certain roles can see. 😃

Oh, sure! “Green”. Aliens are always “green”. Xenoracist!

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/149 "2009-09-10T22:23:24Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> I agree with **NAF** ; honest mods are boring.
> 
> (Thanks.)

Just playing my Good Cop role.

I’m your friend. I will never steer you wrong.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/150 "2009-09-10T22:32:42Z")

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All this speculation about what’s gastard should be giving NAF excellent notes about roles to put in the next Gastard Arena game.

Aliens, Newts, Ghosts, Multiple Scum Teams (wait, you already did that in the first one, although we were multiple teams of one, and I had it pretty much figured out by Day 2 but in my relative mafia inexperience at the time was too afraid to mention it to the rest of the scum, a mistake I would not make again, but I digress), a can of worms (open, of course), BillMCs…

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/151 "2009-09-10T22:45:49Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Note that I never post with Gastard Truth quotes. Don’t listen to me at all. I am mostly here to distract you and taunt you.

You’re french?

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/152 "2009-09-10T23:29:17Z")

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Yes. Now go away or I will taunt you a second time.

Oh, and there are tons of great ideas in this game that I need to steal for the next Gastard arena game.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/153 "2009-09-10T23:51:02Z")

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yaknow what if all this stuff we are coming up with ends up being the gasterd rules. kind of like ghostbusters when the sta puft marshmallow dude was conjured up by ackroyd.

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**Author:** ![BillMC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@BillMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BillMC)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/154 "2009-09-11T00:08:31Z")

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> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#):
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> All this speculation about what’s gastard should be giving NAF excellent notes about roles to put in the next Gastard Arena game.
> 
> Aliens, Newts, Ghosts, Multiple Scum Teams (wait, you already did that in the first one, although we were multiple teams of one, and I had it pretty much figured out by Day 2 but in my relative mafia inexperience at the time was too afraid to mention it to the rest of the scum, a mistake I would not make again, but I digress), a can of worms (open, of course), BillMCs…

There’s more than one of me? :dubious: I really need to meet me!

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**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/155 "2009-09-11T00:22:48Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> yaknow what if all this stuff we are coming up with ends up being the gasterd rules. kind of like ghostbusters when the sta puft marshmallow dude was conjured up by ackroyd.

OK. I see you have been gastardized.

I guess that clears up the question whether anyone had additional restriction imposed on their roles.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/156 "2009-09-11T00:29:33Z")

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> [@BillMC](#):
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> There’s more than one of me? :dubious: I really need to meet me!

A game with multiple yous would be epic. Hence, why I pluralized it.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/157 "2009-09-11T00:31:13Z")

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> [@DiggitCamara](#):
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> OK. I see you have been gastardized.
> 
> I guess that clears up the question whether anyone had additional restriction imposed on their roles.

i’m glad i was able to clear that up, then.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/158 "2009-09-11T00:32:34Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> I’m trying to think of the most gasterdly thing I can think of. What about totally hidden factions that we know nothing about?

Bit of a small game size(15 players) for a sizable third party, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/159 "2009-09-11T00:34:58Z")

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Time for the first vote count!

Current Votes:

**[Random.org](http://Random.org) (15)**: peekercpa, Tom Scud, Zsofia, Normal Phase, Mahaloth, DiggitCamara, DarthSensitive, BillMC, Nanook of the North Shore, Zeriel, TexCat, AllWalker, ColdPhoenix, Gryff, Freudian Slit

**Not voting** : peekercpa, Tom Scud, Zsofia, Normal Phase, Mahaloth, DiggitCamara, DarthSensitive, BillMC, Nanook of the North Shore, Zeriel, TexCat, AllWalker, ColdPhoenix, Gryff, Freudian Slit

We need a yawn smiley.

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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inblourious-gasterds-mafia/509280/160 "2009-09-11T01:16:11Z")

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Geez, that makes me feel pressured into voting…

In regards to the Gasterd elements of this game, it is hard to speculate on what they are until something really weird happens. I’m waiting for a player who only posts in riddles or a lynch where the vote results are inverted or something, but until then I’m reluctant to guess. Then again, I have never played or watched a Gasterd Mafia game before, so my guesses would probably be wildly off anyway.

In short, I got nothing.

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