# Incel: Involuntary Celibacy! (and cray-cray)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 25, 2013, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332 "2013-02-25T08:17:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/21 "2013-02-25T18:09:31Z")

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> [@Mississippienne](#):
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> While this could be a troll, the “incel” movement is real and this guy is very involved with it. My gut feeling is that y’all are being too hopeful for calling troll on this. I think he’s sincere. And creepy.

Sooo, when you guys going out? 😃

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/22 "2013-02-25T18:20:46Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> How about the rest of the movement? Is it basically another flavor of the profoundly fucked-up manosphere?

I wouldn’t want to shake his hand of fate.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/23 "2013-02-25T18:43:03Z")

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Ryan Gosling movies aside, isn’t this basically what realdolls are for?

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/24 "2013-02-25T18:58:16Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> The real problem? Actual several, and we’ll start with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement and a woeful lack of empathy for others.

Well, at least for this gentleman in particular, I’d say the biggest problem is that he’s utterly certifiable. When you admit to begging your mother for sex — not to mention calling her a whore when she doesn’t comply — you’ve gone far beyond an average MRA’s sense of entitlement; you’ve hit Time Cube Guy-level insanity.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/25 "2013-02-25T19:23:04Z")

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You can’t put rational explanations on irrational behavior.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/26 "2013-02-25T20:05:11Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> Just a troll - although some parts are probably true (like not getting laid).

You’ve never heard of Chris Chan, I take it?

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**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/27 "2013-02-25T20:32:47Z")

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Could you PM me the forum? Sounds awesome.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/28 "2013-02-25T21:08:44Z")

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My skin started crawling just from the proposition his mother quote so I skipped to the end of the OP. I hope that dude is nuts because even if it’s satire I’m not sure I want to believe that a normal mind is capable of coming up with that.

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/29 "2013-02-25T21:13:45Z")

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> [@rogerbox](#):
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> Could you PM me the forum? Sounds awesome.

I don’t know about the OP, but this dude’s been featured on reddit recently.

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**Author:** ![cuberdon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cuberdon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuberdon)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/30 "2013-02-25T21:14:01Z")

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> [@rogerbox](#):
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> Could you PM me the forum? Sounds awesome.

The original nutcase:

[http://governmentsgetgirlfriends.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/a-letter-on-the-anniversary-of-my-last-arrest/](http://governmentsgetgirlfriends.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/a-letter-on-the-anniversary-of-my-last-arrest/)

The forum:

[http://bo-ne.ws/forum/read.php?7,180539,181194](http://bo-ne.ws/forum/read.php?7,180539,181194)

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**Author:** ![pope\_hentai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@pope\_hentai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pope_hentai)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/31 "2013-02-25T21:30:08Z")

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Wow… i can understand the idea of incel… i could say im a sufferer… but its not going to cause me to proposition relatives, suggest that i be guaranteed sex, or insist i’ll snap if i dont get laid. I just dont meet people i click with irl very often for some reason or another.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/32 "2013-02-26T02:54:12Z")

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I cried because I had no sex, until I met a man who had no dick. That cheered me up for a while.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/33 "2013-02-26T03:56:13Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I cried because I had no sex, until I met a man who had no dick. That cheered me up for a while.

You wacky liberals cheer any unfortunate cause.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/34 "2013-02-26T06:10:46Z")

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Cripes, **Fois** , I had no idea that anybody here actually…shit, man, I’m totally sorry!

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/35 "2013-02-26T07:13:26Z")

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Does he offer any reason why he doesn’t pay for sex? It’s not like he appears to have any moral qualms about how he gets laid.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/36 "2013-02-26T07:21:13Z")

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I have qualms about his getting laid, as I have a hard time imagining him doing anything that isn’t pretty disgusting.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/37 "2013-02-26T07:32:11Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I cried because I had no sex, until I met a man who had no dick. That cheered me up for a while.

Dateless or Dickless, that is the question.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/38 "2013-02-26T07:41:26Z")

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If you can’t go fishing because you have no bait, doesn’t really matter if there’s no fish. Got to be philosophical about these things.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/39 "2013-02-26T07:49:15Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> If you can’t go fishing because you have no bait, doesn’t really matter if there’s no fish. Got to be philosophical about these things.

Right, but when I come back from 8 hours at sea, all sun-burned and exhausted, with no fish, I’m not sure how much solace I’ll be taking from the baitless wonder’s predicament.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incel-involuntary-celibacy-and-cray-cray/651332/40 "2013-02-26T08:36:33Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> Right, but when I come back from 8 hours at sea, all sun-burned and exhausted, with no fish, I’m not sure how much solace I’ll be taking from the baitless wonder’s predicament.

He should be called Master Baitless!

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