# Incest is best at the Oscars?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 27, 2000, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309 "2000-03-27T19:28:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/21 "2000-03-28T14:29:00Z")

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AvenueB-Dude,

If you REALLY want to make a fool out of yourself again, I suggest you open another Pit Thread named **“Ignorance & Ethics: A Dangerous Combination”**.

See you there. Bye.

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**Coldfire**  
_Voted **Poster Most Likely To Post Drunk** _

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_ **"You know how complex women are"** _

- Neil Peart, **Rush** (1993)

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**Author:** ![Peter\_North](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Peter\_North](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_North)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/22 "2000-03-28T14:38:00Z")

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This reminds me of the “Home” episode of _The X-Files_.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/23 "2000-03-28T14:54:00Z")

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Ave nue- what else is Noone telling you?

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**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/24 "2000-03-28T16:17:00Z")

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A lot of siblings are close, it doesn’t mean they are bleeping each other.

My two neices are like that but they are from Hawaii. Maybe it’s a hawiian thing?

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/25 "2000-03-28T16:56:00Z")

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This isn’t a matter of “close” or “affectionate,” Handy. It’s downright creepy. I mean, they were Frenching each other at the Golden Globes! And the whole “in love with” and sobbing bit at the Oscars . . . I think family counseling is called for here.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/26 "2000-03-28T17:40:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Eve:  
> **This isn’t a matter of “close” or “affectionate,” Handy. It’s downright creepy. I mean, they were Frenching each other at the Golden Globes! And the whole “in love with” and sobbing bit at the Oscars . . . I think family counseling is called for here.**

## Whoa! I gotta start watching these awards shows… is there a site out there with pictures? 😃

–  
From an actual catalog: “Disco balls create an enchanting, dazzling effect of light shafts, adding movement and glamour to any occasion”  
_the Abrams’ bris was certainly memorable_  
O p a l C a t  
[www.opalcat.com](http://www.opalcat.com)

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**Author:** ![dwtno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@dwtno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dwtno)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/27 "2000-03-28T17:54:00Z")

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It gets better. Evidently they’re buying a house and plan to live and work together.

And this is from an interview with Charlie Rose. Charlie has just asked if it was true that her brother was her best friend:

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> \*\*AJ:\*\*Best friend. And uh yeah I had just–going through something the other d–some time ago and uh called my–my brother who I usually treat him like a baby but–I’m really protective and really crazy–but–uh I  
> called him and–came in stood up for me and I ended up falling in his arms crying he just–held me but–was just so strong–so good–

Are they doing each other? Who knows. But if they’re not they’d have to be complete morons to not realize how this looks to us.

Bottom line–they don’t care what we think! Their prerogative, but helluva way to develop a career.

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**Author:** ![Cabbage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@Cabbage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabbage)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/28 "2000-03-29T06:40:00Z")

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> Ave nue- what else is Noone telling you?

If I had to guess, it would be:

There’s a kind of _hush_…  
All over the world…tonight  
All over the world  
you can hear the sounds  
of siblings in love

You know what I mean…

Or perhaps it’s:

Mum and dad you’ve got a lovely daughter…

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/29 "2000-03-29T06:44:00Z")

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Maybe I’m a little dense (I don’t have any sisters), but I’ve never understood why the brother-sister incest thing seems creepy to so many people. If you have a good-looking sibling around your own age, wouldn’t you be tempted?

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/30 "2000-03-29T06:54:00Z")

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Cabbage—Har! I’m old enough to have gotten the joke, luv.

Arnie—Maybe; but I don’t think I’d advertise it at awards shows! And judging by her Charlie Rose quote (is that verbatim?) the girl either has a few brain cells missing or took huge hits of heroin before going on the air.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/31 "2000-03-29T06:59:00Z")

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I got the joke, too… but dang it, I’m not old. I’m not!

I’m not Henry the Eighth, either. 🙂

- Rick

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**Author:** ![dwtno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@dwtno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dwtno)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/32 "2000-03-28T19:46:00Z")

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Eve, yes the passage is a verbatim quote. Though the girl does seem a little empty-headed, I’d mark the odd phrasing up to breathless enthusiasm and inexperience. Ever see your own unpracticed conversation reduced to transcription? Not pretty.

And damn you, Cabbage! That was going to be my gag!

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2000, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/33 "2000-03-28T21:05:00Z")

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> If you have a good-looking sibling around your own age, wouldn’t you be tempted?

Ewwwwww! Arnold, if you had a sister, you wouldn’t be asking this question. I have a beautiful sister, close to my own age, but the very thought of incest gives me the shudders. Maybe it’s instinctive, or maybe society’s taboos have become fully ingrained in me, but either way…no way!

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/34 "2000-03-29T06:56:00Z")

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I’d have to back Arnold on this one. It may be culturally unacceptable, but who wouldn’t want to at least sneak a peak? (Come on, be honest here. Use your hormones, not your superego.)

I mean, don’t we have a wonderful concept called “Oedepus Complex”? What’s that about? **Incest**. At least the sister is closer in age. 😉

Though from a cultural aspect, yeah it’s creepy.

As for the confusion of the quote, it’s entirely possible it’s simply the effects of impromptu speaking, especially when excited. Try taping a conversation of your own some time, trying to answer impromptu questions on the fly, and see how well you fare.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/35 "2000-03-29T15:27:00Z")

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Do **you** have a sister, **Irishman**?

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**Author:** ![Ursa\_Major](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a88e57/32.png) [@Ursa\_Major](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ursa_Major)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/36 "2000-03-29T15:49:00Z")

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I think all you sister-less apologists for sibling incest should try replacing the word “sister” with “mother” and then see how you feel about it.

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**Author:** ![ThisYearsGirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@ThisYearsGirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisYearsGirl)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/37 "2000-03-29T15:50:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Irishman:  
> [B  
> I mean, don’t we have a wonderful concept called “Oedepus Complex”? What’s that about?  
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## Um, you do know that Oedipus murdered his father, blinded himself, and his wife/mother killed himself. I think the lesson in that story is not to sleep with familt members. Plus, the definition of “Oedipus complex” specifies that it’s a personality disorder.

“I was born in this town, I was raised in this town, and I’ll probably die in this town. Hell, I’ve already been hit by a car on this street, twice!”–if you recognize where this quote is from or who said it, please tell me.

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**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/38 "2000-03-29T17:01:00Z")

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> If you have a good-looking sibling around your own age, wouldn’t you be tempted?

I do. No.

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“I can’t think why fancy religions should have such a ghastly effect on one’s grammar.”  
– Dorothy L. Sayers

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**Author:** ![G.B.H.Hornswoggler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c67d28/32.png) [@G.B.H.Hornswoggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G.B.H.Hornswoggler)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/39 "2000-03-29T17:43:00Z")

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No sisters at all, so I can’t vote on how much I’m tempted…

But what you really want is _cousins_! Close enought to be almost incest, far enough away to keep you from being tarred and feathered. Oh yeah! (Can you tell I grew up with nearly a dozen older pretty female cousins? Thought so.)

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I’m your only friend  
I’m not your only friend  
But I’m a little glowing friend  
But really I’m not actually your friend  
But I am

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**Author:** ![Akatsukami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea666f/32.png) [@Akatsukami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akatsukami)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2000, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incest-is-best-at-the-oscars/15309/40 "2000-03-30T06:04:00Z")

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**ThisYearsGirl** writes:

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> I think the lesson in [the Oedipus] story is not to sleep with familt members.

Or perhaps it’s not to abandon your infant son on a hillside after spiking his feet?

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“I don’t just want you to feel envy. I want you to suffer, I want you to bleed, I want you to die a little bit each day. And I want you to thank me for it.” – What “Let’s just be friends” _really_ means

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