# Inconceivable!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 18, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454 "2019-09-18T20:09:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/41 "2019-09-19T18:24:43Z")

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The name has to be changed to reference Mace Windu’s light saber color. I thought everyone knew that!

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/42 "2019-09-19T19:27:17Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I DO NOT WANT
> 
> but I like my casting choices:
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> Zak Efron as Westley  
> Hugh Jackman as Humperdink  
> Samuel L Jackson as Indigo Montoya  
> Dwayne Johnson as Fezzik  
> Tom Hanks as Vizzini  
> Melissa McCarthy as Buttercup  
> Patrick Stewart as the Grandfather
> 
> any mode good ones?

Chris Hemsworth (or Evans) as Westley  
Cary Elwes as Humperdink  
Jude Law as Count Rugen  
Diego Luna as Inigo Montoya  
Dwayne Johnson as Fezzik  
Michael Pena as Vizzini  
Zendaya as Buttercup  
Robert Downy Jr. as Miracle Max  
Alyson Hannigan (or Marisa Tomei) as Valerie  
Willie Nelson as the Grandfather

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/43 "2019-09-19T19:43:32Z")

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> [@ExTank](#):
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> Chris Hemsworth (or Evans) as Westley  
> Cary Elwes as Humperdink  
> Jude Law as Count Rugen  
> Diego Luna as Inigo Montoya  
> Dwayne Johnson as Fezzik  
> Michael Pena as Vizzini  
> Zendaya as Buttercup  
> Robert Downy Jr. as Miracle Max  
> Alyson Hannigan (or Marisa Tomei) as Valerie  
> Willie Nelson as the Grandfather

I thought of Zendaya but with Zak I thought I had too much Greatest Showman.

I like Chris Hemsworth!

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/44 "2019-09-19T19:47:11Z")

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> [@ExTank](#):
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> Chris Hemsworth (or Evans) as Westley  
> **Cary Elwes as Humperdink**  
> Jude Law as Count Rugen  
> Diego Luna as Inigo Montoya  
> Dwayne Johnson as Fezzik  
> Michael Pena as Vizzini  
> Zendaya as Buttercup  
> Robert Downy Jr. as Miracle Max  
> Alyson Hannigan (or Marisa Tomei) as Valerie  
> Willie Nelson as the Grandfather

The irony in that -

“It’s really the name that matters…”

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/45 "2019-09-19T19:52:52Z")

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Look, a remake would be a disaster. A sequel would almost definitely be a disaster, but imagine this: Fifty years or so have passed, and the mantle of Dread Pirate Roberts has been passed on a few times. Our story begins with an opening shot of the new Dread Pirate Roberts…

Leslie Jones.

Hey, with good writing, there’s a small chance it might work.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/46 "2019-09-19T20:21:09Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> The irony in that -
> 
> “It’s really the name that matters…”

Bond Girl: Oh, thank you for saving me, the world, and killing the evil criminal mastermind! But you never told me your name.  
JB: Bond. James Bond.  
BG: Wait! My mother worked for Hugo Drax. She was there when they launched all those space shuttles back in the 80s. She told me that some British secret agent stopped Drax and saved the world. His name was James Bond.  
JB: Yes, it was.  
BG:That can’t have been you! And my grandfather worked for this guy named No, before he realized he was bent on world domination, and he told us how this British agent stopped No’s nefarious scheme. His name was James Bond, too.  
JB: Yes, that sounds right.  
BG: But, it couldn’t have been you! You’d have to be over 70!  
JB: I’m not.  
BG: But then, how can it be?  
JB: Well, you see, I am not really secret agent Bond, 007. My name is Colin and I inherited the name from the previous 007. The man I inherited it from was not the real James Bond, either. He inherited the name, or, as he puts it, “assumed the mantle” from the previous Bond. The original Bond has been retired for years and is living like a king in Scotland.  
BG: What?  
JB: And actually, his name was not Bond, either. There never really was any agent named James Bond. MI-6 borrowed the name from some book about birds. They found out long ago that it’s the name that instills fear in the enemy. All new 007’s go by the name Bond. No one would be scared of agent Colin.  
BG: How long will you be Bond? Do you do this forever?  
JB: It’s fun for a while, but, well, you try to get out before you get killed. The reputation is both a help and a hindrance. People always trying to kill you for things the other guy did. And one guy got married on the job, but his wife was killed. He never worked again, poor bloke.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/47 "2019-09-19T20:28:26Z")

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Wait, I’ve got it:

Digitally alter the video game the kid is playing in the opening scenes of the framing story, so it’s something modern on a Playstation 5 or Xbox 0 or whatever.

And then keep absolutely everything else exactly the same.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/48 "2019-09-19T20:39:35Z")

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**[Moderating]**  
Oh, and I didn’t notice this:

> [@Jasmine](#):
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> I find it pathetic that many of the people who are up in arms about this and are actively protesting it don’t even blink an eye over the latest lie told by that sack of shit in the Oval Office.

This has nothing at all to do with the movie, nor with anything else in Cafe Society. Leave the politics for the political forums.

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/49 "2019-09-20T00:05:16Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> I’m sure that the point is that someone in Hollywood is convinced that a remake would make a crapton of money. Pure and simple.

They do remakes of Shakespeare all the time. The stories are strong enough to provide the framework for multiple versions. Some people feel the same way about films.

Say you were an actor, or a director. Would you be up for a remake of Princess Bride?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/50 "2019-09-20T01:11:06Z")

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And to think it was once considered a travesty when Ted Turner started colorizing old movies!

> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> What would be the point of remaking it? I’m not being snarky here - I honestly don’t see the point.

The same as all the rest of these reboots: $$$$$$$$

Seriously, I haven’t even SEEN The Princess Bride, I’m just so tired of everyone wanting to remake everything.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/51 "2019-09-20T01:14:08Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> And to think it was once considered a travesty when Ted Turner started colorizing old movies!
> 
> The same as all the rest of these reboots: $$$$$$$$
> 
> Seriously, **I haven’t even SEEN The Princess Bride** , I’m just so tired of everyone wanting to remake everything.

_vapors_

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/52 "2019-09-20T02:01:26Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> And to think it was once considered a travesty when Ted Turner started colorizing old movies!
> 
> The same as all the rest of these reboots: $$$$$$$$
> 
> **Seriously, I haven’t even SEEN The Princess Bride** , I’m just so tired of everyone wanting to remake everything.

**Inconceivable!**!

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**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/53 "2019-09-20T02:10:28Z")

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What if they do a reverse Disney and remake it as animation?Of course it won’t be, but that way they could amp up the fantasy while not straining the believability.

I’d watch that.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/54 "2019-09-20T02:23:22Z")

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How about remaking it not as a movie but as a limited series? Perhaps six or eight episodes.

But as I said in another thread, why remake a movie or TV show that worked? Instead, they should remake one that didn’t.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/55 "2019-09-20T03:40:31Z")

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I don’t really think a remake is a good idea. But the fire swamp scenes could use some freshening up. Maybe they could just get George Lucas in there to do a little re-hab?

> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> There is no replacement for andre the giant.

The Rock (Dwayne Johnson), or the Mountain (Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson), or The Hound (Rory McCann.)

> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Look, a remake would be a disaster. A sequel would almost definitely be a disaster, but imagine this: Fifty years or so have passed, and the mantle of Dread Pirate Roberts has been passed on a few times. Our story begins with an opening shot of the new Dread Pirate Roberts…
> 
> Leslie Jones.
> 
> Hey, with good writing, there’s a small chance it might work.

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/56 "2019-09-20T04:04:27Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> The Rock (Dwayne Johnson), or the Mountain (Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson), or The Hound (Rory McCann.)  
> …

Morons. [/Vizzini]

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/57 "2019-09-20T04:12:28Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Morons. [/Vizzini]

Andre tG did a great job in the role, but Mr Rock has acting chops, and excellent comic timing. He would not be worse, and probably would be better. However, he would be different.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/58 "2019-09-20T04:24:17Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Andre tG did a great job in the role, but Mr Rock has acting chops, and excellent comic timing. He would not be worse, and probably would be better. However, he would be different.

The Rock is 6’5", Andre was 7’4"

There’s simply no comparison.

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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/59 "2019-09-20T04:30:04Z")

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Like none of you would be lining up at Taco Bell to order a Rodents of Unusual Size Chalupa.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/inconceivable/840454/60 "2019-09-20T07:11:47Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> The Rock is 6’5", Andre was 7’4"
> 
> There’s simply no comparison.

Agreed.

Andre the Giant (7’4") was taller than Shaq (7’1"), but Andre’s posture was kind of stooped so figure them roughly the same height. Now compare Johnson and Shaq in [this picture](https://twitter.com/therock/status/335194419500290048) to see just how very tiny Dwayne Johnson is next to giants.

The guy who played The Mountain in the later seasons is 6’9", so he’s closer but still noticeably smaller. While the guy who played The Mountain outweighs Shaq by 100 pounds (420 vs 320 lbs) Andre the Giant outweighed him by another 100 pounds, 520 vs 420 lbs. 100 pounds and 7 inches on The Mountain…oh my.

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