# increasingly sophisticated sex dolls for men

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 1, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258 "2010-02-01T16:39:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![ginman999](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@ginman999](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ginman999)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/21 "2010-02-01T20:09:48Z")

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For 7K can I get one that does’nt look like Lisa Lampanelli?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/22 "2010-02-01T20:25:39Z")

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Actually, I could see custom celeb-look-alikes as being a successful option.

On a much darker and seedier note, I wonder if making dolls that look like children could provide an outlet for pedophiles and keep them from offending.

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**Author:** ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/23 "2010-02-01T20:30:36Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Sex is one of the things men want from women. And if that could be provided elsewhere, that particular motivation is less. There are already guys out there that spend more time with prostitutes than they do with other women. If you make it cheaper, it’s gonna become much easier to go mainstream.

I don’t know about that. Men haven’t been replaced by vibrators and women haven’t been replaced by fleshlights. I think there is way too much involved in a relationship to say that a man or woman could be replaced by a robot. A prostitute could absolutely be replaced with a sex bot. A wife? Not so much. I think Roxxxy will give men who are social outcasts and men who want only sex with none of the emotional component a way to get laid without dealing with the dating world but those people aren’t really actively searching for a relationship now without having a robot fellating them either. I think it will change very little about our society and the way we approach love and dating.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/24 "2010-02-01T20:38:33Z")

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> [@pbbth](#):
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> A prostitute could absolutely be replaced with a sex bot.

I would even disagree with this. A prostitute is still a person with a pulse, a breath, and working limbs.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/25 "2010-02-01T20:49:40Z")

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> [@pbbth](#):
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> Until a sex bot can console you while you mourn the loss of a loved one or bear your children and help raise your family they don’t present any kind of threat to women. Besides, you can’t damage a live woman’s circuits by jizzing on her fuse box. 😛

The functional uterus is what makes it a seller’s market - otherwise I figure that over the years I’ve been a net exporter of emotional comfort as well as material wealth. And I’m willing to bet that modern consumer electronics can be made a lot lower-maintenance than flesh and blood, literally as well as metaphorically.

/advocatus diaboli

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**Author:** ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/26 "2010-02-01T21:08:07Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> The functional uterus is what makes it a seller’s market - otherwise I figure that over the years I’ve been a net exporter of emotional comfort as well as material wealth. And I’m willing to bet that modern consumer electronics can be made a lot lower-maintenance than flesh and blood, literally as well as metaphorically.
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> /advocatus diaboli

So you’re saying your wife uses you for comfort and financial gain and gives you nothing in return? That she could very easily be replaced with a sex bot and that would be considered trading up in your world?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/27 "2010-02-01T21:57:06Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> The functional uterus is what makes it a seller’s market - otherwise I figure that over the years I’ve been a net exporter of emotional comfort as well as material wealth. And I’m willing to bet that modern consumer electronics can be made a lot lower-maintenance than flesh and blood, literally as well as metaphorically.
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> /advocatus diaboli

If it uses a Windows operating system all bets are off.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/28 "2010-02-01T22:27:51Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> At the end of the day, it’s still just masturbation. It can’t replace a real human relationship, and it can’t even replace real sex.

Well, it can’t replace a good relationship. I see no reason why such a device couldn’t provide sex just as good as the real thing though.

All in all I think that a really humanlike sexdroid would be a good thing. It would give men who just want sex and nothing else a better outlet, and keep them from bothering women. And it would require women to bring more to a relationship than a pretty face and female sex organs. Or to put it another way, if a sex toy can replace a woman, then you are better off without her, and if a man can be satisfied with just a sex toy, you are probably better off without him.

And what about men who put up with a woman who is nasty or crazy simply because they are desperate for sex? A mindless machine may not be able to provide a real relationship, but there are plenty of relationships that are worse than nothing. A machine may not be able to provide you with children, but it isn’t going to divorce you, get custody of the kids and raise them to hate you, either.

To sum up, I think that it isn’t a bad idea for women to have to at least leap the bar of “better than a sex doll” in order to attract a man. The vast majority can I’m sure, and the rest men are better off avoiding.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/29 "2010-02-01T22:37:59Z")

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> [@TGWATY](#):
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> It will have social consequences.

Nope, it’s just another sex toy. And if it’s not easily hidden, they’ve scared away a huge percentage of their target audience because the only thing more pathetic than using a blow-up girlfriend is being caught with your blow-up girlfriend.

> [@TGWATY](#):
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> It won’t just be something that a few people do in the privacy of their homes and the rest of us can ignore.

1. What? They’re going to take their blow-up girlfriends to the movies?
2. Yes, we can just ignore them. Just like I ignore the millions of men who masturbate every night.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/30 "2010-02-01T22:46:53Z")

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Didn’t we just have a sex doll post with all the same comments, and at least one other within the past two months? Blah blah ‘Ha ha where’s the mute button?’ blah blah ‘Women must be shaking in their boots – now guys don’t need them for anything except babies!’ blah blah ‘Man, they’re ugly.’

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/31 "2010-02-01T22:52:20Z")

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> [@Cat\_Fight](#):
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> Didn’t we just have a sex doll post with all the same comments, and at least one other within the past two months? Blah blah ‘Ha ha where’s the mute button?’ blah blah ‘Women must be shaking in their boots – now guys don’t need them for anything except babies!’ blah blah ‘Man, they’re ugly.’

Yeah, pretty much.

As for the doll in the OP, I’m supposed to be worried about competing with a frightening looking hunk of plastic? Isn’t that like saying I should be worried about competing with…I don’t know, Gumby? (The first sexless thing that came to mind.) I mean, even if it were the hottest doll on the block, do guys really want to have sex with a hot corpse? I can think of a lot of guys I find attractive but a doll version that lies there and stares into space and maybe plays some prerecorded messages /= sexy.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/32 "2010-02-01T22:54:25Z")

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> [@pbbth](#):
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> So you’re saying your wife uses you for comfort and financial gain and gives you nothing in return? That she could very easily be replaced with a sex bot and that would be considered trading up in your world?

Dear me, I must sound dreadfully disloyal and unappreciative, mustn’t I? Don’t worry, I won’t be trading in Mrs M for a mechanical substitute any time soon. But is it really so hard to believe that there are men out there who’ve been the major breadwinner from almost the moment the ink was dry on the marriage certificate, who give a darn sight more than they get (or need) in return as far as emotional comfort goes, and whose sexual needs could hardly be worse met if it was by a robot? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/33 "2010-02-01T23:12:59Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I think if a man would rather have a doll than me, I’d rather he had a doll, too.

Well said.

Why would a woman feel threatened by a sex doll? It’s like a steak house feeling threatened by a McDonalds. It’s 2 different markets.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/34 "2010-02-01T23:34:31Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> As for the doll in the OP, I’m supposed to be worried about competing with a frightening looking hunk of plastic?

Nope. They won’t be competition until they can get a reaction from men of “Wow, that’s sexy” instead of "AHHHH! Robot zombie! Kill it with _fire!!"_

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/35 "2010-02-01T23:48:23Z")

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I just love the disconnect between “all many/alot/most men want is sex and will do just about anything to get some” and “a machine that just fucks realistically? But real women offer sooooo much more”.

So, which is it? Are many men just wanna fuck something machines and a fair number of real women will be outa business so to speak or are just a tiny fraction of men just wanna fuck something machines?

You can’t have it both ways.

And lets not forget that recent “will men rape if they can get away with it?” poll and its implications.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/36 "2010-02-01T23:54:10Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> I just love the disconnect between “all many/alot/most men want is sex and will do just about anything to get some” and “a machine that just fucks realistically? But real women offer sooooo much more”.
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> So, which is it? Are many men just wanna fuck something machines and a fair number of real women will be outa business so to speak or are just a tiny fraction of men just wanna fuck something machines?
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> You can’t have it both ways.

If you find the same people saying both things, you have an argument.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/37 "2010-02-01T23:56:06Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> So, which is it? Are many men just wanna fuck something machines and a fair number of real women will be outa business so to speak or are just a tiny fraction of men just wanna fuck something machines?
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> You can’t have it both ways.

Actually, you can. The desire for sex and the desire for a relationship are two largely separate agendas. Depending on mood and personality, a man can just be looking for sex; or he could be looking for a relationship, children, etc. The women who risk being “put out of business” by some hypothetical sex droid are the ones who offer only the former.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/38 "2010-02-02T00:23:02Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Actually, you can. The desire for sex and the desire for a relationship are two largely separate agendas. Depending on mood and personality, a man can just be looking for sex; or he could be looking for a relationship, children, etc. The women who risk being “put out of business” by some hypothetical sex droid are the ones who offer only the former.

Really, I did not know that :rolleyes:

Are all women gonna be out a “job” and out on the street? heh. No

Are there a small but significant portion of men that other than the sex, the woman is pretty much something to be endured? Yes, IMO.

Those kinda women are gonna have to step things up a notch or be single. Which means other, more tolerable women will now have competition so THEY will have to step it up a notch. Which means the good women will now have competition so THEY will have to step it up a notch. And so on up the partner market competition chain.

Don’t get me wrong, IMO the percentage of “good gawd, why does he put up with that woman?” women is about the same as “what the hell does she see in him?” men. Or if you think my observations are irrelevant replace that with men or women that complain endless about how much their partner suck and how miserable they are because of them.

If its a fraction of a percentage of men that just want fuckbots, then its probably not going to have any real social impact, besides some new TV sitcoms. If its something like 10 percent, give or take or more, then IMO its going to have some social impact.

Folks can pontificate about what men really want and what women bring to the table and all that jazz, but IMO I think we are just going to have to see how this actually shakes out down the road.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/39 "2010-02-02T01:02:34Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Those kinda women are gonna have to step things up a notch or be single. Which means other, more tolerable women will now have competition so THEY will have to step it up a notch. Which means the good women will now have competition so THEY will have to step it up a notch. And so on up the partner market competition chain.

Yeah, that’s what they said when they introduced sperm banks: Hell, women won’t need men for ANYTHING any more. You can see how much fitter, stronger, and faster prospective male suitors have gotten as a result of their new competition.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/increasingly-sophisticated-sex-dolls-for-men/527258/40 "2010-02-02T01:28:59Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> Yeah, that’s what they said when they introduced sperm banks: Hell, women won’t need men for ANYTHING any more. You can see how much fitter, stronger, and faster prospective male suitors have gotten as a result of their new competition.

Sperm generally don’t bring their own paychecks along.

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