# Incredible powers discovered/revealed on Star Trek that are used once and dismissed forever

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**Created:** [April 7, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incredible-powers-discovered-revealed-on-star-trek-that-are-used-once-and-dismissed-forever/999963 "2024-04-07T01:17:30Z")\
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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> You would think that the TOS enterprise would carry some extra Dilithium crystals, eh?

Scotty ate those for lunch.

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Set to kill, a phaser will make you glow with a colored halo before you wink out of existence.

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> So, where does the mass from self-replicating mines come from?

> [@abcdefghij](#):
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> Subspace. It comes from subspace.

Obviously, the people who are phased out of existence are converted into mass for the self-repping mines and fuel for the starships.

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Why not use the transporter as a weapon? Just start transporting away important parts of the enemy vessel - such as tiny but important pieces of the main reactor, or key structural components, or the enemy captain’s aorta. It doesn’t even matter if you can’t rematerialise them, as long as you can do the dematerialising part.

And that seems to be the hard part of transporting through shields, anyway: You can do it, but the thing you’re transporting doesn’t stay intact. Which, if the object is just to break up the enemy hull, is as you say something you don’t even care about.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The Squire of Gothos

I thought Trelane’s machine was fake. It was all part of his game. He could move his planet at warp speed, after all. He’s Q-ish.\*

\*I alwys thought he literally was Q, hence his obsession with the Enterprise.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
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[They can power your starship. And make your breath as fresh as a summer ham.LINK](https://www.amazon.com/Unemployed-Philosophers-Guild-Dilithium-Crystal/dp/B074WGJ763)

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**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\
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Spock mentioned pon farr to a human woman (who looked like she would definitely be into it) in the season three episode _The Cloud Minders_

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**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
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I recall exactly that (swiping parts of a ship to get it to back off) happening in an _Enterprise_ episode, but I don’t recall if the Enterprise was doing it to another ship when things were particularly desperate or someone else did it to Enterprise. It might have been the episode with two Enterprises. 🙂

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The man was a menace

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
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McCoy is operating _at warp speed_!!!\*

\*on Spock’s brain.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Why not use the transporter as a weapon? Just start transporting away important parts of the enemy vessel - such as tiny but important pieces of the main reactor, or key structural components, or the enemy captain’s aorta.

One of the novels referenced something that was shown on screen: antimatter can only get beamed via transporter if it’s inside a very special container. This came up when an outgunned Scotty opted to beam just such a container off an enemy ship.

That’s right, just the container.

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What good did that do?

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I contained antimatter goes “BOOM!”

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But I thought he sent just the container…?

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Looks like he just retrieved the container.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> But I thought he sent just the container…?

No, the enemy was storing antimatter in a container. Scotty took, not sent, but took the container from them, leaving the antimatter behind. Enemy ship go boom.

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> …all of it may just be an elaborate simulation running inside a little device sitting on someone’s table.

… in their Mom’s basement.

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Are you talking about Enterprise: [E^2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%C2%B2)?

Since both ships are considered ‘friendlies’ so, different circumstances. Or [Damage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damage_(Star_Trek:_Enterprise)) which is directly referenced in E^2?

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> [@zimaane](#):
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> Spock mentioned pon farr to a human woman (who looked like she would definitely be into it) in the season three episode _The Cloud Minders_

She was a Stratos-ian humanoid. Not that such things ever mattered to Kirk and crew when it came to intimate relationships.

At least she wasn’t a mermaid…

[![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2658/5727703165_42f0678278_b.jpg) ](https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2658/5727703165_42f0678278_b.jpg)

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> No, the enemy was storing antimatter in a container. Scotty took, not sent, but took the container from them, leaving the antimatter behind. Enemy ship go boom.

Got it. That Scotty, what a prankster!

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> No, the enemy was storing antimatter in a container. Scotty took, not sent, but took the container from them, leaving the antimatter behind.

Presumably it was ionic-type antimatter, because the only way you could contain antimatter is with some sort of magnetic field. All you would then have to do is transport away enough of the containment field generator and the antimatter would touch the physical container (made of matter) and there you go.

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