# Incubus is douchebag

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 28, 2014, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247 "2014-07-28T15:20:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/261 "2014-07-30T21:42:30Z")

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> [@chiroptera](#):
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> **monstro** said it beautifully, as usual.

Your White Knight suit is looking a little thin here.:dubious:

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/262 "2014-07-30T22:31:25Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Your White Knight suit is looking a little thin here.:dubious:

And then, shit got real.

ETA: no “poke with a stick” smilie? Seriously?

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/263 "2014-07-30T22:50:15Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> **Incubus** , I’m going to assume that your post is sincere and that your wife actually did post here. I’m a little skeptical of both, but it’s just easier to take everything at face value.
> 
> I am perfectly willing to downgrade your douchebag title to something else. But a heartfelt post isn’t enough, not for me. I’m going to be looking for real change going forward. These are the things I will be looking for as evidence that you have really matured:
> 
> 1. You stop this “hugbox” nonsense. Assuming your come-to-Jesus moment is real, do you now see why this macho posturing is potentially damaging? The internet fails if we’re all hiding our feelings behind tough-guy personas. You’re lucky that you have a wife to turn to when you’re sad and angry. _Not everyone is so fortunate._ Perhaps if you had made yourself vulnerable here earlier and let people know that you’re dealing with insecurities, we would have been able to give you the love and the assurances that you obviously need (and there is nothing wrong with having this need. We ALL have needs).
> 
> So if you make one more disparaging reference to the internet “hugbox”, I’m going to conclude you’re yanking our chains right now.
> 
> 1. You stop this “spergy” nonsense. Maybe you know a lot of people who are “spergy”, so you feel you have unique insight into this. But the word is a horrible insult. A few years ago I got my diagnosis when I wasn’t even looking for it. I’ve rejected it, though. Mainly because of the stigma. For 30-something years, my identity was constructed on being a strong black woman of the same ilk as Claire Huxtable and Serena from “28 Days Later”. And that label threatened to take all of that away from me. But you know what? I can afford to be so cavalier about a diagnostic label because I really am more quirky than handicapped. Other people aren’t so fortunate. When you denigrate the “spergs” and other people dealing with social difficulties, you keep these people from getting the help they need. You keep them isolated and depressed. And you suck for doing this.
> 
> So if you don’t stop doing this, I’m going to conclude you’re yanking our chains right now.
> 
> 1. You stop with the fat-bashing nonsense. I don’t even have to tell you why, because I think you already get it. Just stay away from all fat-related threads for awhile.
> 
> If you make one more snide remark about a fat person, I’m going to conclude you’re yanking our chains right now.
> 
> Finally, instead of telling us how interesting your life is, show us. Why not start a “Ask the Transit Bus Driver” thread? I know I have some questions I’d ask. (Like where do ya’ll go to the bathroom!!!) And when you post in IMHO, try not to mention what your wife thinks. Doing so will make you seem less like a character and more like a real person.
> 
> Anyway, I hope you aren’t yanking our chains and that this isn’t some elaborate stunt.

Agree with this post 100%.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/264 "2014-07-30T23:12:41Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Your White Knight suit is looking a little thin here.:dubious:

Help me out with this Doc. [I’m not saying I’ve ridden a bus in SF.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB_Ajfe1H2w) Still…

Just where in his posts did he say he was a MUNI operator? The internet gives the impression that there are CA bus drivers who work in SF but who are not MUNI operators (not that he wouldn’t jump on to your post with a warm wet kiss).  
So, whose got a thin white knight suit here again? :dubious:  
(maybe they rent them… like tuxedos…)

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/265 "2014-07-30T23:20:10Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> Help me out with this Doc. [I’m not saying I’ve ridden a bus in SF.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB_Ajfe1H2w) Still…
> 
> Just where in his posts did he say he was a MUNI operator? The internet gives the impression that there are CA bus drivers who work in SF but who are not MUNI operators (not that he wouldn’t jump on to your post with a warm wet kiss).  
> So, whose got a thin white knight suit here again? :dubious:  
> (maybe they rent them… like tuxedos…)

Muni is just one example. Oakland has similar highly paid bus drivers. In the bay area, with OT, his claimed wages are not in any way improbable.

So Monstro was wrong in calling him a liar.

And “White Knighting” is a thing where you rush to the support of a female poster, 'cuase they are delicate damsels who need your manly protection. :rolleyes:

Mind you, I am not weighing in on whether or not **Incubus** is a douchebag for other reasons, I think his posts speak for themselves. 😃 But wages as a bus driver around here? Quite possible.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/266 "2014-07-30T23:22:17Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Somehow I missed your apology for calling him a liar about how much he made as a bus driver.:rolleyes:

Please fuck off. I didn’t call **Incubus** a liar. I posted a link to salary statistics so that **Ambivalid** could make his own conclusion.

You’re trying to stir up shit. But we already done flushed the toilet.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/267 "2014-07-30T23:26:13Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> Please fuck off. I didn’t call **Incubus** a liar. I posted a link to salary statistics so that **Ambivalid** could make his own conclusion.
> 
> You’re trying to stir up shit. But we already done flushed the toilet.

Which are bogus, since he has told us the area he is in, and costs of living and wages there are different. So, your little "link to salary statistics " was a damn lie. Either you knew that or were ignorant. Which is it? Either way, you should apologize and admit you were wrong.

Next time- flush _before_ you post shit, OK?

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/268 "2014-07-30T23:51:22Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> And “White Knighting” is a thing where you rush to the support of a female poster, 'cuase they are delicate damsels who need your manly protection. :rolleyes:

You know, _I never knew that!_ For 25 years I thought Hans shot Ellis because Mc Clane wouldn’t give him the detonators. Thank You!

**Ignorance Fought**

😃

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/269 "2014-07-31T00:05:02Z")

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**DrDeth** , are you jealous because **Incubus** is getting all the attention and you want some now? Poor baby. I’m sure one day your Pit will come. You just have to try harder, that’s all.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/270 "2014-07-31T01:26:45Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> I have a bit of a crush on her and her sister.

Same here (although I know nothing about her sister).

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/271 "2014-07-31T03:22:06Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Same here (although I know nothing about her sister).

TWINS, man! _waggles eyebrows_

It’s actually kind of hard to figure out which Doper is her sister. I’m not going to tell, it’ll be a fun kind of game for you 🙂

I find it ironic that this thread is becoming a bit “hugbox”-y. hahaha

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/272 "2014-07-31T05:02:49Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> And “White Knighting” is a thing where you rush to the support of a female poster, 'cuase they are delicate damsels who need your manly protection. :rolleyes:

Uh huh. Everyone knows that it’s totally white knighting to agree with a post, esPECially if you include a compliment about its clarity and eloquence. But only if that poster is a chick. If it’s a dude, you’re obviously just agreeing and giving props like people do every day. ¬\_¬

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/273 "2014-07-31T05:13:46Z")

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Just in case people want a quick refresher on the post of **monstro** ’s that **DrDeth** is talking about:

> [@What are your thoughts RE: Fat people in tight clothes](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/175):
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> According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, [$60,960](http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes533021.htm) is the 90th percentile annual salary for a transit bus driver in CA.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/274 "2014-07-31T05:31:47Z")

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Incubus:

Given the amount of cruelty and filth you’ve spread across this board recently, it is going to take a lot more than a cheap apology to raise my remarkably low opinion of you.

You are a pathetic liar, a disgusting human being, and a detriment to this board.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/275 "2014-07-31T11:16:56Z")

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> [@zweisamkeit](#):
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> Uh huh. Everyone knows that it’s totally white knighting to agree with a post, esPECially if you include a compliment about its clarity and eloquence. But only if that poster is a chick. If it’s a dude, you’re obviously just agreeing and giving props like people do every day. ¬\_¬

IIRC, **chiroptera** is a woman. The defender must be a guy for it to be real [white knighting](https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=white+knighting).

I could pit **DrDeth** over such lameness, but it wouldn’t be half as interesting as this thread has been. Unless he has his own HMW™.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/276 "2014-07-31T11:24:03Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Next time- flush _before_ you post shit, OK?

Just FYI, but that’s not how you use a toilet.

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**Author:** ![chiroptera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@chiroptera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chiroptera)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/277 "2014-07-31T11:47:29Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> And “White Knighting” is a thing where you rush to the support of a female poster, 'cuase they are delicate damsels who need your manly protection. :rolleyes:
> 
> .

Ah. I was scratching my head until I read this.  
I’m indeed a female poster and probably not much good at “manly protection.”

Carry on.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/278 "2014-07-31T11:48:49Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Just FYI, but that’s not how you use a toilet.

It’s not? Welp, now I know why my wife has been pissed for the last 5 years.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/279 "2014-07-31T12:03:57Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Incubus:  
> You are a pathetic liar, a disgusting human being, and a detriment to this board.

Apart from that though…

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/incubus-is-douchebag/694247/280 "2014-07-31T12:28:07Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Incubus:
> 
> Given the amount of cruelty and filth you’ve spread across this board recently, it is going to take a lot more than a cheap apology to raise my remarkably low opinion of you.
> 
> You are a pathetic liar, a disgusting human being, and a detriment to this board.

That may be true, but if we remove everyone who has expressed cruelty and filth, and who are pathetic liars and disgusting human beings, and detriments, from this board… Then we would have a more quiet Pit, for one thing.

And much less debates.

His negative things still amount to nothing (at least in my eyes) compared to what others spew on this board every day. And considering his status in real life, it bothers me even less. While others, with more influence, do say stuff that bothers me quite a lot more. And with their more real world influence, they’re more dangerous as well.

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