# Independence Day: Resurgence trailer is out **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 14, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428 "2015-12-14T17:40:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/1 "2015-12-14T17:40:43Z")
And I hadn’t a clue they were filming a new movie. I moderately like the original, though I know it’s kind of hokey and full of plot holes. At any rate: [Here’s the new trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbduDRH2m2M). I may see it in the theater, depending on how the reviews go. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/2 "2015-12-14T18:16:59Z")
We watch the original every 4th (if we aren’t too busy grilling). It is one of those movies that I’ll stop on if I see it when I’m surfing. I did not know a sequel was in the making. I do not see Will Smith in the trailer. That can’t be good. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/3 "2015-12-14T18:20:01Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I did not know a sequel was in the making. I do not see Will Smith in the trailer. That can’t be good. Depending on who you listen to, he either wanted too much money or didn’t want to do anymore sci-fi films or wanted his son in the movie and they said no. ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/4 "2015-12-14T18:31:32Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > . . . I do not see Will Smith in the trailer. That can’t be good. Yes, Will Smith was one of the main reasons I liked the original, though I also liked Jeff Goldblum and Brent Spiner. Hey, is Brent Spiner also in _Resurgence_? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/5 "2015-12-14T18:33:58Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Depending on who you listen to, he either wanted too much money or didn’t want to do anymore sci-fi films or wanted his son in the movie and they said no. Well, he does have to look out for his son seeing as how the boy is really stupid. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/6 "2015-12-14T18:47:49Z")
> [@teela\_brown](#): > > Hey, is Brent Spiner also in _Resurgence_? Not unless it’s his twin (Lore, hee hee hee.) Spiner’s character got strangled by the alien. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/7 "2015-12-14T19:13:12Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Not unless it’s his twin (Lore, hee hee hee.) Spiner’s character got strangled by the alien. [IMDB lists him as playing the same character](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1628841/) as he did in [the first film](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116629/). [The Wikipedia page also lists him as the same character and mentions that he is reprising the same role](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day:_Resurgence). It also states (with sources) that Will Smith is not in the film because “he’s too expensive”. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/8 "2015-12-14T19:13:19Z")
I didn’t know there was a sequel in the works. I didn’t know we needed a sequel. The interesting thing about earth-changing movies is that they exist in our real world, and diverge. What happens afterwards isn’t really important. We know the whole world will be different, we just don’t know how. World government? People getting over their difference, and facing the new threat together? Or, peoples with long-standing grievances finally settling them, with swords if necessary, now that they no longer are being watched over by the first world? Sequels to these movies, especially ones that are set 20 years later, are no longer in our world. The world that the characters are living in in the sequel is as alien to our world as Star Trek. The movie can’t have its characters reference anything that happened since, because their would would have diverged so far from ours. No 9/11, no Obama, no American Idol. Tech will be different. No smart phones are we know them - they’ll exist, probably, but they’ll use alien tech. EVERYTHING will use alien tech. There will be a difference in attitude as well. With definite proof of alien life, will religion change? Will people become fearful? Or overly aggressive? What of all the people killed on ID4? Millions and millions. Whole cities wiped out, gone forever. Will everyone just be depressed? So, can they make a movie that will work? Can they make the movie accessible to a wide audience, and not bog it down explaining all the differences in the world? And not make it just fighter battles for two hours? I hope so. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/9 "2015-12-14T19:21:36Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [IMDB lists him as playing the same character](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1628841/) as he did in [the first film](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116629/). > > [The Wikipedia page also lists him as the same character and mentions that he is reprising the same role](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day:_Resurgence). It also states (with sources) that Will Smith is not in the film because “he’s too expensive”. Must be a flashback. Don’t make me go all _Misery_ on this…his character died in the first move. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/10 "2015-12-14T19:21:43Z")
I like how the site - [http://www.warof1996.com/](http://www.warof1996.com/) - says “Fictional Experience”… yeah - because otherwise we might have thought this actually happened. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/11 "2015-12-14T19:34:14Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Not unless it’s his twin (Lore, hee hee hee.) Spiner’s character got strangled by the alien. I thought he just got mind-raped. Goldblum, Spinner, President Lone Star and Judd Hirsch and Vivica A Fox are all in the IMDB credits. If you go to the “War of 96” companion site, they tell you what happened to Will Smith’s character Col Hiller was blow’d up testing alien tech. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/12 "2015-12-14T19:34:26Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Must be a flashback. Don’t make me go all _Misery_ on this…his character died in the first move. Nah,he just looked dead,and he wasn’t breathing- : for a while. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/13 "2015-12-14T19:42:52Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Nah,he just looked dead,and he wasn’t breathing- : for a while. So, only mostly dead. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/14 "2015-12-14T20:00:06Z")
I’d rate the trailer a solid _ehhhhhhhhh_. The CGI looks good (though it’s nowhere near as impressive as it was 20 years ago), and it’s nice to see that the world has adapted some of the alien technology, but from what we see in this trailer I’m not really feeling that there’s been much societal change as the result of _all the major world cities being melted and hundreds of millions of people dying_. 9/11 was a world-altering moment for my generation and it was WAY smaller than what happened in Independence Day. Unless there’s a subsequent trailer that shows more than just bare snippets of CGI action sequences, I’ll probably wait until this one is available for streaming. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/15 "2015-12-14T22:49:01Z")
Looks like dumb fun and explosions. Based on the trailer I’m in - far more than for the new Star Trek film. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/16 "2015-12-14T23:06:00Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > If you go to the “War of 96” companion site, they tell you what happened to Will Smith’s character > > Col Hiller was blow’d up testing alien tech. I heard he got recruited by a guy with a Texas accent and some black sunglasses. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/17 "2015-12-15T03:07:30Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Must be a flashback. Don’t make me go all _Misery_ on this…his character died in the first move. I could be wrong, but I don’t think it made clear whether he actually died no or not. It could be a flashback though; he was a major character in the prequel novel. Personally I don’t care if the plot is utter nonsense; I am _so_ seeing this in IMAX 3D. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/18 "2015-12-15T03:34:15Z")
The first movie wasn’t that good. It had plot loopholes the size of starships, and the alien threat had no personality. It was, and is, good dumb fun. If this one’s good dumb fun that’s all anyone can ask. Most of the people returning could use the work, frankly. Bringing back Brent Spiner’s character is a lot easier than bringing back Randy Quaid’s. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/19 "2015-12-15T03:54:52Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Nah,he just looked dead,and he wasn’t breathing- : for a while. He was breathing - the alien was using his breath to communicate. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428/20 "2015-12-15T04:02:18Z")
So, I assume that the aliens have a firewall or something this time. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-day-resurgence-trailer-is-out/740428.md?page=2)