# Independence Movements in the U.S.A.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-movements-in-the-u-s-a/277368>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 30, 2004, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-movements-in-the-u-s-a/277368 "2004-11-30T19:28:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![rippingtons\_fan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rippingtons_fan/32/11767_2.png) [@rippingtons\_fan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rippingtons_fan)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2004, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-movements-in-the-u-s-a/277368/1 "2004-11-30T19:28:21Z")

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It seems that there are more than a few independence movements going on in the USA. One of them I know of in my own area (the Pacific Northwest), is called the Republic of Cascadia (combining the states of Washington and Oregon), and it’s NOT one of those neo-facist/neo-nazi ideas of a separate nation.

How many new nations would be carved-out of the USA if these independence movements achieved their goals of breaking-away from the USA?

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**Author:** ![vl\_mungo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc8723/32.png) [@vl\_mungo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vl_mungo)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2004, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-movements-in-the-u-s-a/277368/2 "2004-11-30T22:10:36Z")

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I think The Republic of Cascadia is also supposed to include British Columbia

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**Author:** ![JerH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@JerH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JerH)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2004, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-movements-in-the-u-s-a/277368/3 "2004-11-30T22:26:58Z")

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It could be a large number, depending on how broadly you define a movement. You also run into some problems because some of the territories would overlap (for example, the Southern secessionists would incorporate Texas, infuriating the Republic of Texas folks).

Besides the southerners and Texans, I also know of [The Conch Republic](http://www.conchrepublic.com/) in the Florida Keys.

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**Author:** ![rippingtons\_fan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rippingtons_fan/32/11767_2.png) [@rippingtons\_fan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rippingtons_fan)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-movements-in-the-u-s-a/277368/4 "2004-11-30T23:30:37Z")

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> [@vl\_mungo](#):
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> I think The Republic of Cascadia is also supposed to include British Columbia

I went to their website, and it only covered Washington and Oregon, however there are other independence movements that do include parts of Canada.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-movements-in-the-u-s-a/277368/5 "2004-12-01T00:06:35Z")

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[Join the Sasquatch Militia!](http://zapatopi.net/bsa/militia.html)

🆒😃

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**Author:** ![Doobieous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Doobieous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doobieous)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-movements-in-the-u-s-a/277368/6 "2004-12-01T00:34:50Z")

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and the California Republic:

[http://calrepublic.tripod.com/](http://calrepublic.tripod.com/)

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**Author:** ![dqa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dqa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dqa)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2004, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/independence-movements-in-the-u-s-a/277368/7 "2004-12-01T00:45:08Z")

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[Alaska](http://www.akip.org/)

[Hawaii](http://www.hawaii-nation.org/)

[Puerto Rico](http://www.independencia.net/)