# India, and Indians. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 4, 2002, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-and-indians/122283 "2002-08-04T09:20:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Teelo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@Teelo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teelo)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2002, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-and-indians/122283/181 "2002-08-31T07:10:20Z")
Oh yes, and anything you don’t prove wrong, I will take it as a “Teelo is right.” Because you have a knack for not posting good responses when I have a solid argument. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2002, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-and-indians/122283/182 "2002-08-31T23:13:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Twerp eh? Yep. You appeared here and started with mouthing prejudices and not being interested in facts. In case it’s escaped your notice, this particular site is kind of big on facts. > [@](#): > > Assertations eh? Yep. An assertion is something you claim to be a fact. Once you assert it, it’s incumbent on you to prove it. You’ve yet to do that. > [@](#): > > Fine. You wanted it, I want nothing from you other than you to cease and desist being a damn liar. > [@](#): > > This refers to how you treated me with disrespect, while Beeblebrox, London Calling, Tsarnia, MrO and Anthracite (to name a few) treated my post with maurity and showed their point of view, without insulting me. Showing, yes respect. Unlike you. Incorrect. I was not disrespectful to you until you posted something regarding me you knew to be false when you posted it. > [@](#): > > 1. You never agreed that you started it, you did. See above. Bullshit. You sent the first salvo here. Had you told the truth and not mouthed prejudices, there’d’ve been no issue. > [@](#): > > 1. How you call me an anti-semite, and somehow you jump to that conclusion because I say the word Jewish. NO, you little shithead. I didn’t jump to the conclusion. As yet another poster has indicated to you, your usage of the word is what brands you an anti-semite. > [@](#): > > You were wrong, I explained it and you ignored it so you weren’t proved wrong. As usual. You’ve yet to prove me wrong. > [@](#): > > 3.You call me a liar, Well, you admitted to posting something you knew was not true. Saying something’s true that you know isn’t is telling a lie. A liar is someone who tells lies. You are therefore a liar. > [@](#): > > and I have not lied, Except, of course, for that nifty bit where you admitted telling a lie. > [@](#): > > you have yet to tell me where I lied. (Unless of course you actually believe that I lied and said you were socking, which I wasn’t, it was an assumption not a lie. There is a difference.) > (Oh yes, and when someone makes a statement and it is wrong, it is NOT considered a lie, see thats where English class pays off) That’s exactly what I’m talking about, you little shithead. For one thing, you admitted that you had no proof. For another, you lied regarding your e-mail to me. > [@](#): > > 4.You have never stepped back and admitted you are being a jerk. Could be because I’m not. You, on the other hand, being a bigot, liar, and fool are rapidly becoming the quintessential jerk. Oh, and let’s not forget your admission to trolling above. > [@](#): > > 1. Not once have you realised that you yourself are a bigot. CARE TO FUCKING PROVE THAT LIE, JACKASS? > [@](#): > > You keep calling me that, when (again) not once have you seen my point of view, on anything. I call you that based on the evidence of your posts here. > [@](#): > > Again, “What’s wrong with you?” Don’t like liars. Don’t like bigots. Have little, if any, sympathy for fools. BTW, here’s another of your lies: you tell me that my posting directed towards Wearia was directed towards you. It wasn’t and just because you were using someone else’s username to make the post doesn’t mean that the response to it was directed towards you. Since at the time, I trusted the username to the left of the post to be an indication of exactly who posted it, I responded, as I indicated above, to Wearia. > [@](#): > > 1. You say I have a bad understanding of reality, what is yours? A far cry better than yours. For one thing, I don’t live in a world of lies. > [@](#): > > Insults will get you very little in life, I doubt very seriously you have enough life experience to know this for a fact. I, on the other hand, do. > [@](#): > > maturity and respect will. Then try showing some of both. A mature person doesn’t tell lies. A person who shows respect to another person doesn’t tell that person lies. You tell lies; therefore, you neither have maturity nor show respect. > [@](#): > > I didn’t pick a fight with you. Another lie. > [@](#): > > You picked it with me, and that is why this started. Yet another one. > [@](#): > > Realise this. If you think otherwise, prove me wrong, and please use the correct timeline. Get off your lazy ass and read everything posted in this thread. > [@](#): > > But wait! You think that you never proving yourself wrong when you said something to me, is an inane and invalid assertation, so prove me wrong. Already done that. Again, get off your lazy ass and read what’s been posted in this thread. > [@](#): > > Of course, if you don’t I will of course assume I am right. I’m not interested in the lies you tell yourself. > [@](#): > > And when you say this: > > > [@](#): > > > > _Origanally posted by Monty_ > > For one thing, you are not all newbies. No matter how important you think you are, you are still one person. > > What the hell does this mean? You say not everyone is a newbie, and then say we are just one person? What does this mean? You bring in 2 topics which have no relevance to each other? Yet again, you fucked up and missed the point standing right in front of your face. You asserted that I’m disrespectful to all newbies. I’m not. I refuse to show you respect because you showed up here and started telling lies to me. > [@](#): > > Amazing, you aren’t good at this argument thing. Actually, I’m damn good at it. Well, not if you count telling lies as being good at it. You’re the king of that particular method. [qutoe]Then you say, > [@](#): > > Origanally posted by Monty > Damn liars don’t deserve respect Now lets see here… (again, you suck at this argument thing) you treat me with disrespect because you think I lie. Well, since you are unaware: I got your rude post before you “think” I lied. That makes no sence. Good try though. 😛 [/quote] NO, I know you lie. Heck, you even admitted it once. > [@](#): > > So lets review, you think I am a liar, bigot and fool. > Wow, good job backing those up…NOT! Actually, you almost got that one write–until your last word. > [@](#): > > You lie about not saying you weren’t wrong about many things, see above. Incorrect. > [@](#): > > You never see my point of view, and you have moronic responses. You have yet to make a valid point. My responses are backed up with the actual posts to which I referred in them. > [@](#): > > Basically, you are a liar, bigot and a fool Monty. CARE TO FUCKING PROVE (VALID PROOF) THAT ASSERTION ABOUT ME BEING A BIGOT, YOU LITTLE SHITHEAD? > [@](#): > > So, my reality is twisted, how have you backed this up? Didn’t really have to back that one up on my own–your posts in this thread have done that admirably. > [@](#): > > Can you do it without me showing (again) that your reality is shit? It’s not possible to do again that which you haven’t done even once. > [@](#): > > I’d also like to point out, that while you call my posts pathetic, by pathetic you mean of course: long, factual and true. No, I mean: you lie. > [@](#): > > While your posts and short, mild, and obvisouly lacking any good argument. Except, of course, for that whole proof thing. > [@](#): > > Monty, you know I have a better argument than you, and you cannot admit that. Incorrect twice. > [@](#): > > I know this is true, Again, I’m not interested in the lies you tell yourself. > [@](#): > > I have met people like you, they just need to make friends, and learn these things as time goes on. > One day you will understand. I’ve plenty of friends. As I mentioned earlier, they are of good character. You might recall that’s why that rules you out as “friend material.” > [@](#): > > Jeez, it hurts when you don’t care about my feelings Monty… > (how you don’t care about me being happy) Don’t care. Try telling the truth if you want someone to care about you or your concerns. > [@](#): > > Plus: When I wanted you to make a good argument, I was serious. Again, get off your lazy ass and read (this time, for comprehension) what’s been posted in this thread. > [@](#): > > (By the way, are you like 13 years old, or what? If you were, then this would make alot of sence to me.) Nope. It’s still irrelevant. Yet again, you’ve managed to insult a goodly number of people on this site who are of that age but yet manage to make valid assertions with proof, not lie, and not be bigots. > [@](#): > > Oh yes, and anything you don’t prove wrong, I will take it as a “Teelo is right.” I’m still not interested in the lies you tell yourself. > [@](#): > > Because you have a knack for not posting good responses when I have a solid argument. That particular assertion has a data set of null. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Wen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Dr.Wen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Wen)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2002, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-and-indians/122283/183 "2002-09-01T19:01:40Z")
Well, it looks like the **“Who’s the Bigger Idiot”** contest is still going strong! Monty took an early lead and continues to pull away. Teelo has made a good effort to stay in the running to be sure, but he is just no match for Monty’s superior ability… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2002, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-and-indians/122283/184 "2002-09-02T04:02:28Z")
And winning by a nose (stuck where it doesn’t belong), we have…DR WEN! ---
**Author:** ![Teelo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@Teelo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teelo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2002, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-and-indians/122283/185 "2002-09-02T05:16:48Z")
/\ Haha, you made me laugh…again. Anyway Monty, that whole post was pathetic, and do I sence a hint of anger Monty? Rawr, Down boy. Your arguments are all flawed. You say things you know your self are not true, which makes you a…(cough)… liar. You don’t seem to understand that when someone says something wrong, that does not make them a liar that makes them wrong, not a liar. Again, there is a difference. So stop calling me that. (Also, I was **not** wrong in my previous post) Look pal, I’m not going to call you a shit head, or whatever the hell you called me. I’m just impressed that you held off this long with such…horrible responses. For that I am unsure to be disgusted or shocked. But seriously, what were you thinking, I read that thing again and it was horrible! Gah! I am not a liar! I have yet to lie to you or anyone! And you still call me one? Yike… I also have yet to insult anyone but you ,and whoever decided to insult me! Also, I never aimed the OP at you. You came along and gave your rude response, (which is rude, ask anyone with half a brain,) and don’t even care. You try and put the blame back on me, which is **ridiculous**. In case you haven’t noticed this is the Pit, and I treated it like what it is. I wasn’t being prejudice, I was simply talking about how the average Joe would consider India at first glance like I do…, did. Yeah, I got a little nuts with it. But that is how I felt at the time. Oh whoops, you don’t care about feelings…right… And its great you have friends, do you boss them around and always have to win in an argument? I would bet on that one. And are these friends all internet pals? Or what? Or do you live an alter ego of a nice person whilest off the internet? Oops, bad one for me…thats IR-RE-LE-VENT. Anyway, …gosh…I don’t know what to say…_horrible post!!_ I’d like to quote everything you said, but…ugh… I think I would exceed the character limit or something…ugh… _\<2 minutes later\>_ Cripes I read it again…horrid response Monty… just horrid… And nothing you can say will make me think otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2002, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-and-indians/122283/186 "2002-09-02T15:00:00Z")
I challenge you to show where I lied. Your demonstrated lack of cognitive ability in written English, btw, is not a valid basis for describing by proofs as horrid. As for this: > [@](#): > > And nothing you can say will make me think otherwise. I’ve noticed already that you have no inclination towards thinking period. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Wen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Dr.Wen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Wen)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2002, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-and-indians/122283/187 "2002-09-02T18:56:56Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Monty:_ > **And winning by a nose (stuck where it doesn’t belong), we have…DR WEN!** My apologies for the intrusion, Monty. I didn’t realize that you were the owner of my nose or the thread into which I should care to stick it. Please, carry on with your idiocy… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-and-indians/122283/188 "2002-09-03T01:04:19Z")
Actually, Wen, I was referring to your nose being inserted where it obviously is based on your apparent anal-cranial inversion. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Wen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Dr.Wen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Wen)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-and-indians/122283/189 "2002-09-03T02:13:19Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Monty_ > **Actually, Wen, I was referring to your nose being inserted where it obviously is based on your apparent anal-cranial inversion.** Monty, the quality of your work is really going downhill. Perhaps you should rethink your position on criticizing others for a demonstrated lack of cognitive ability in written English until you get your own sorted out. Tisk. ---
**Author:** ![Teelo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@Teelo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teelo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2002, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-and-indians/122283/190 "2002-09-05T03:19:15Z")
Okay Monty, I think I am done with this thread. It is pretty stupid… Now, I want to do this as nicely as possible, seriously! K, look… I took a few minutes to look at your posting history. And, well (remember, I don’t consider this an attack on you) you don’t seem like a very, happy person… Lots of your posts were so negative to people. I was rather shocked. I did see posts, with neutral comments, and the odd “thanks” and what not. But the negatives really stood out. When we got to arguing, I thought you were just mad at me, And only me, I thought that was okay, since people argue and such… But, I looked, and your mad at several more people. You don’t just call me a liar, and this isn’t the only thread you have come in, and been rude with. Look, I don’t know much about you, other than the reputation you have given many people, but look you seem like a mad person. Now, I can see when you say your mad when you saying I was “lying” and that ticked you off, but look Monty, I’m not the only one you consider a liar. How many people have “lied” to you? Do you think us dopers would really want to lie? Me thinks not. K, now _without jumping to a conclusions,_ perhaps you have bad days and decided (involuntarily) to take it out on the SDMB? Can you consider this? Look, I’ve been having bad days myself, and I try my best not to take it out on anyone cuz a frown spreads like wildfire. Anyways, this may not be the way it is, but whatever it is, seriously consider what I have said okay? Geez, if you are mad at someone just talk to someone! I hate to sound like a dork, but hey, talking can help. Alright, I’m done here I won’t be posting here anymore. Um, and for whats its worth, I had fun toying with your mind! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2002, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-and-indians/122283/191 "2002-09-05T03:39:28Z")
You are a proven liar, Teelo. I point out the fact. Don’t like being called a liar? Don’t tell lies. You say you’re 16. That’s certainly old enough to know this little tidbit of life. There’s no way for me to seriously consider what you say. You might wonder why. The answer is simple: you are a proven liar and you’ve admitted to trolling. Actually, you have admitted twice in this thread to trolling. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-and-indians/122283.md?page=9)