# India on pace to be worst-hit Covid nation by end of 2021

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**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [July 17, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586 "2020-07-17T15:22:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/61 "2021-05-03T16:58:39Z")

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> How does India's caste system play out in the hiring practices of Silicon Valley? And what happens when dominant caste people in the U.S. grapple with their own inherited privilege for the first time?

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/62 "2021-05-03T18:15:30Z")

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> [@mandala](#):
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> . 'Tis the reason the Chinese block many Western news agencies:

The reason china blocks ALL news agencies, Western or otherwise, from publishing what they don’t want published is because they control it by force.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/63 "2021-05-03T20:22:32Z")

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This thread may also be of interest: [Tell me about India's caste system.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-me-about-indias-caste-system/533611)

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/64 "2021-05-03T22:58:41Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> The reason china blocks ALL news agencies, Western or otherwise, from publishing what they don’t want published is because they control it by force.

That’s _how_, not why.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/65 "2021-05-03T23:46:29Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> That’s _how_ , not why.

The “why” is to control anything they deem negative regardless of the truth.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/66 "2021-05-03T23:54:28Z")

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It’s amazing how thoroughly Modi and the B.J.P. have adopted Trumpism, right down to denouncing the credibility of “leftist” news organizations while lying left and right and stoking sectarian hatred to maintain political power. Of course, Trump, unlike Modi, isn’t a literal genocidaire. Including following the Trump plan of declaring victory over the pandemic and lifting precautions.

Lose in an election, send in the thugs …

> **[Yahoo Search - Web Search](https://in.search.yahoo.com/?fr2=inr)**
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> The search engine that helps you find exactly what you\\'re looking for. Find the most relevant information, video, images, and answers from all across the Web.

Of course, election-related violence is not unknown in India.

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**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/67 "2021-05-04T03:40:26Z")

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The BJP is at the [receiving end of the violence](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/11-killed-in-bengal-post-poll-violence-centre-seeks-report/articleshow/82378005.cms) in Bengal, as it usually is. Bengal is extremely notorious for election violence. The ruling TMC in Bengal is one of the most fearsomely violent political organizations in India. Ditto the Kerala communists. Countless innocent lives have been lost to these thugs.

Innocent BJP worker Avijit Sarkar was slaughtered Taliban style by your friendly Bengal goons less than 24 hours ago. He live-streamed the slaughter of his dogs minutes before he was similarly slaughtered.

The trigger for the latest election violence is that the Great Whore of Bengal who just won the election was defeated in her own constituency by a little-known BJP candidate.

> [@](#):
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> Former Rajya Sabha MP Swapan Dasgupta, who contested the Tarakeshwar seat on a BJP ticket but lost the poll, urged Union home minister Amit Shah to rush central forces for the safety of Hindu families at Nanoor in Birbhum district. “Alarming situation in Nanoor (Birbhum district) with more than a thousand Hindu families out in the fields to escape marauding mobs seeking to take it out against BJP supporters. Reports of molestation or worse of women. Amit Shah please rush some security to the area,” he tweeted.

“Decades in Western journalism” has taped your eyes wide shut.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/68 "2021-05-04T03:57:09Z")

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So…#MIGA!

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**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/69 "2021-05-04T03:57:51Z")

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A slight ray of hope: confirmed cases go down slightluy in worst-hit Delhi and Maharashtra. Too early to say if these gains will be sustained, but I have heard experts say the 2nd wave in India will peak between May 4-8.

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> The government, however, maintained that these were very early signs and continuous containment measures by states were required to sustain the gains. “It is important to have continued efforts of containment at district and state level so that we can preserve these gains and reduce cases further,” said Lav Agarwal, joint secretary in the Union health ministry.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/70 "2021-05-04T04:27:16Z")

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> [@mandala](#):
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> The trigger for the latest election violence is that the **Great Whore of Bengal** who just won the election was defeated in her own constituency by a little-known BJP candidate.

Oh for fuck’s sake. Can you please take this shit out of the Quarantine Zone and put it somewhere else? The Pit would be a nice place.

In the meantime, since the BJP’s farts smell like unicorns…

Perhaps the BJP has some insight into dealing with the coronavirus:

> **[Coronavirus: Assam BJP MLA claims cow urine, dung can cure the illness](https://scroll.in/latest/954992/coronavirus-assam-bjp-mla-claims-cow-urine-dung-can-cure-the-illness)**
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> Suman Haripriya added that these two substances can be used to cure cancer too.

> **[No Need To Worry About Coronavirus If You Overcome Mental Stress: Yogi...](https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/yogi-adityanath-on-coronavirus-no-need-to-worry-about-covid-19-if-you-overcome-mental-stress-2188731)**
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> Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath on Sunday said that life-threatening health issues like heart attack and Coronavirus can be avoided if a person overcomes mental stress.

[An actual governmental press release](https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1600895) (hey, it was early on, so why not throw shit at the wall):

> Advisory for Corona virus
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> Homoeopathy for Prevention of Corona virus Infections
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> Unani Medicines useful in symptomatic management of Corona Virus infection

I don’t think “Western journalism” is the problem here.

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**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/71 "2021-05-04T12:18:27Z")

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You are right, this thread has gone off on a massive tangent.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/72 "2021-05-04T13:05:42Z")

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> [@mandala](#):
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> The BJP is at the [receiving end of the violence](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/11-killed-in-bengal-post-poll-violence-centre-seeks-report/articleshow/82378005.cms) in Bengal, as it usually is. Bengal is extremely notorious for election violence. The ruling TMC in Bengal is one of the most fearsomely violent political organizations in India. Ditto the Kerala communists. Countless innocent lives have been lost to these thugs.
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> Innocent BJP worker Avijit Sarkar was slaughtered Taliban style by your friendly Bengal goons less than 24 hours ago. He live-streamed the slaughter of his dogs minutes before he was similarly slaughtered.
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> The trigger for the latest election violence is that the Great Whore of Bengal who just won the election was defeated in her own constituency by a little-known BJP candidate.
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> > [@](#):
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> > Former Rajya Sabha MP Swapan Dasgupta, who contested the Tarakeshwar seat on a BJP ticket but lost the poll, urged Union home minister Amit Shah to rush central forces for the safety of Hindu families at Nanoor in Birbhum district. “Alarming situation in Nanoor (Birbhum district) with more than a thousand Hindu families out in the fields to escape marauding mobs seeking to take it out against BJP supporters. Reports of molestation or worse of women. Amit Shah please rush some security to the area,” he tweeted.
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> “Decades in Western journalism” has taped your eyes wide shut.

@mandala i am stepping in until @colibri is available, because this is an egregious case of bringing politics into the quarantine zone. Please feel free to discuss this stuff over in p&e, but this category is NOT the place for it.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/73 "2021-05-04T13:06:46Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> Oh for fuck’s sake. Can you please take this shit out of the Quarantine Zone and put it somewhere else?

Preferable to just report it.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/74 "2021-05-04T13:15:24Z")

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In his/her defense, I kinda started it with a flippant remark. I wasn’t intending it to be overtly political, just more or less making a quick-take observation about how laxness led to a human disaster but I can see how it might have been perceived as a political snipe.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/75 "2021-05-04T13:21:38Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> > [@mandala](#):
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> > The BJP is at the [receiving end of the violence](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/11-killed-in-bengal-post-poll-violence-centre-seeks-report/articleshow/82378005.cms) in Bengal, as it usually is. Bengal is extremely notorious for election violence. The ruling TMC in Bengal is one of the most fearsomely violent political organizations in India. Ditto the Kerala communists. Countless innocent lives have been lost to these thugs.
> > 
> > Innocent BJP worker Avijit Sarkar was slaughtered Taliban style by your friendly Bengal goons less than 24 hours ago. He live-streamed the slaughter of his dogs minutes before he was similarly slaughtered.
> > 
> > The trigger for the latest election violence is that the Great Whore of Bengal who just won the election was defeated in her own constituency by a little-known BJP candidate.
> > 
> > > [@](#):
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> > > Former Rajya Sabha MP Swapan Dasgupta, who contested the Tarakeshwar seat on a BJP ticket but lost the poll, urged Union home minister Amit Shah to rush central forces for the safety of Hindu families at Nanoor in Birbhum district. “Alarming situation in Nanoor (Birbhum district) with more than a thousand Hindu families out in the fields to escape marauding mobs seeking to take it out against BJP supporters. Reports of molestation or worse of women. Amit Shah please rush some security to the area,” he tweeted.
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> > “Decades in Western journalism” has taped your eyes wide shut.
> 
> @mandala i am stepping in until @colibri is available, because this is an egregious case of bringing politics into the quarantine zone. Please feel free to discuss this stuff over in p&e, but this category is NOT the place for it.

I agree. While there are political aspects of this, this is way over the top. If you want to discuss Indian politics in these terms, take it to GD or the Pit. @ **mandala** , furthermore I am banning you from this thread.

Colibri  
QZ Moderator

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/76 "2021-05-05T13:08:15Z")

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Some definite supply-chain problems:

> **[The world sent India millions in Covid aid. Why is it not reaching those who...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/05/india/india-covid-foreign-aid-distribution-intl-hnk-dst/index.html)**
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> As India's Covid-19 crisis tipped past breaking point last month, dozens of countries pledged critical aid.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/77 "2021-05-05T13:21:23Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> > [@mandala](#):
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> > The trigger for the latest election violence is that the **Great Whore of Bengal** who just won the election was defeated in her own constituency by a little-known BJP candidate.
> 
> Oh for fuck’s sake. Can you please take this shit out of the Quarantine Zone and put it somewhere else? The Pit would be a nice place.
> 
> In the meantime, since the BJP’s farts smell like unicorns…
> 
> Perhaps the BJP has some insight into dealing with the coronavirus:
> 
> [Assam BJP MLA Suman Haripriya claims cow urine, dung can cure coronavirus, cancer](https://scroll.in/latest/954992/coronavirus-assam-bjp-mla-claims-cow-urine-dung-can-cure-the-illness)
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> [Yogi Adityanath On Coronavirus: No Need To Worry About COVID-19 If You Overcome Mental Stress](https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/yogi-adityanath-on-coronavirus-no-need-to-worry-about-covid-19-if-you-overcome-mental-stress-2188731)
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> [An actual governmental press release](https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1600895) (hey, it was early on, so why not throw shit at the wall):
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> > Advisory for Corona virus
> > 
> > Homoeopathy for Prevention of Corona virus Infections
> > 
> > Unani Medicines useful in symptomatic management of Corona Virus infection
> 
> I don’t think “Western journalism” is the problem here.

This post is inappropriate as well.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/78 "2021-05-05T13:22:51Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> It’s amazing how thoroughly Modi and the B.J.P. have adopted Trumpism, right down to denouncing the credibility of “leftist” news organizations while lying left and right and stoking sectarian hatred to maintain political power. Of course, Trump, unlike Modi, isn’t a literal genocidaire. Including following the Trump plan of declaring victory over the pandemic and lifting precautions.
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> Lose in an election, send in the thugs …
> 
> [Yahoo Search - Web Search](https://in.news.yahoo.com/post-poll-clashes-wb-several-184308976.html)
> 
> Of course, election-related violence is not unknown in India.

This post is inappropriately political as well.

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**Author:** ![Scotty\_the\_Kid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Scotty\_the\_Kid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotty_the_Kid)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/79 "2021-05-06T01:05:21Z")

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Ok, if you so strongly caution against getting one’s information re India from those sources, what _do_ you recommend as source?

ETA: I hadn’t read all the latest hi-jinks when i.posted that question.

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-on-pace-to-be-worst-hit-covid-nation-by-end-of-2021/915586/80 "2021-05-06T01:08:12Z")

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The poster was thread-banned a few posts up, so if you’re awaiting a reply, it won’t be in this thread.

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