# India / Pakistan Conflict Escalation \[ 6MAY2025 breaking news \]

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**Created:** [May 7, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-pakistan-conflict-escalation-6may2025-breaking-news/1017980 "2025-05-07T00:38:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-pakistan-conflict-escalation-6may2025-breaking-news/1017980/21 "2025-05-08T23:29:15Z")

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It is certainly possible India lost Rafale BS-001, but I still have my doubts, especially because India has not confirmed the loss (understandable in wartime but leaves the field wide-open for AI fakes). I am no expert in image analysis so I will just post this link FWIW.

> **[Pakistani Claims of Downed Indian Rafale Jet Debunked as Fake Image Circulates...](https://idrw.org/pakistani-claims-of-downed-indian-rafale-jet-debunked-as-fake-image-circulates/#google_vignette)**

If India DID lose a Rafale, it’s just unbelievable it happened in hour 1 on day 1.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-pakistan-conflict-escalation-6may2025-breaking-news/1017980/22 "2025-05-09T00:23:30Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> The Taliban are calling on India and Pakistan to exercise restraint and start dialogue, stressing its importance for regional stability.

Not surprising when you consider that if this thing blows up into a wider hotter war, possibly to the nuke (hopefully just tactical) level, Afghanistan could suffer a lot of spillover.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-pakistan-conflict-escalation-6may2025-breaking-news/1017980/23 "2025-05-09T09:35:10Z")

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> [@mandala](#):
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> If India DID lose a Rafale, it’s just unbelievable it happened in hour 1 on day 1.

Isn’t that when air defenses would be at their strongest? I’d fully expect that the first planes in would be the ones at the biggest risk.

> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Not surprising when you consider that if this thing blows up into a wider hotter war, possibly to the nuke (hopefully just tactical) level, Afghanistan could suffer a lot of spillover.

Consistently in military war games, when “tactical” weapons are used the engagement escalates to a strategic exchange. That’s a major reason the military largely lost interest in the idea, the concept is fairly pointless if _using_ them leads to mutual destruction.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-pakistan-conflict-escalation-6may2025-breaking-news/1017980/24 "2025-05-09T11:10:02Z")

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Note: There is no indication that any aircraft from the two sides crossed the joint border. The ‘dogfights’ were conducted by BVR (beyond visual range) missiles fired from their own territory. The missiles will get a launch heading from the aircraft. At some point, the missile seeker will search for a target (radar, infrared or a combination), and more advanced missiles can have targeting updated from a datalink to/from the launching aircraft. That’s why pictures of downed aircraft parts are their own side. India also launched ground attack missiles against suspected terrorist bases. There was sporadic cross border artillery fire (not unusual but it sucks to be those targets).

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-pakistan-conflict-escalation-6may2025-breaking-news/1017980/25 "2025-05-09T11:23:08Z")

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When the Taliban started 30 years ago, they were full of piss and vinegar. Ready to take on the world. Now that they’re going gray with creaky joints, they just want to settle down and enjoy the privileges of power without too much bother.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/india-pakistan-conflict-escalation-6may2025-breaking-news/1017980/26 "2025-05-10T00:15:25Z")

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Latest on conflict. Recovery of missile parts. Tit for Tat attacks on each other’s military bases.Videos. Still mostly claims rather than confirmed.

> **[Chinese-Made PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Components Came Down Intact Inside India](https://www.twz.com/air/parts-of-a-pakistani-pl-15e-air-to-air-missile-came-down-relatively-intact-in-india-after-air-battle)**
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> Pakistani use of PL-15Es against Indian fighters opens up a new vector for intelligence exploitation on one of China's most threatening missiles.

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