# Indian Jones is a rapist? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 29, 2016, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508 "2016-03-29T08:30:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/41 "2016-03-29T14:27:04Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I’m kinda glad SJWs are going after fictional characters that lived in the past. The more time they spend doing that is less time they have to bother us real people in the present. I hate to destroy your illusion of security, but if you’re imagining that having their attention drawn to fictional statutory rape back in the 1970’s will make people more likely to overlook any actual statutory rape you might be engaged in today, I don’t think that’s the way it works. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/42 "2016-03-29T14:32:21Z")
> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#): > > But he could be a statutory rapist according to our standards. Accepting the abovementioned publication about their “canon” ages, making her 16 at the time of the affair, means he would NOT be one under the laws of a majority of the US states and most of the Western world even today (and most probably not in the 1930s either). ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/43 "2016-03-29T14:34:46Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I hate to destroy your illusion of security, but if you’re imagining that having their attention drawn to fictional statutory rape back in the 1970’s will make people more likely to overlook any actual statutory rape you might be engaged in today, I don’t think that’s the way it works. And you do realize time available to any person is a finite quantity right? ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/44 "2016-03-29T14:35:08Z")
I had to look up SJW. Learn something new every day. It’s a throwaway line in a 35 year old film. The character in the film is in no way shown to be either a rapist or a pedophile. And were social mores different 35 years ago? News flash, yes they were. And last time I checked, this was a work of _fiction._ So if the point wasn’t to get all “SJW” on this issue, what was it? ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/45 "2016-03-29T14:48:24Z")
> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#): > > Back when SJW’s was a concept limited to crazy tumblr posts about how manspreading is a hate crime and such, but then it was appropriated by right wingers to use as a disparaging term to anyone in the left and has nowadays evolved to mean “anybody who’s not in the right side of Attila the Hun”. > > So, pretty much a tainted word, or acronym. Atilla the Hun was actually quite progressive ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/46 "2016-03-29T14:51:28Z")
[QUOTE=Go\_Arachnid\_Laser] There’s some stuff in 1980’s movies that would be considered insane by today’s standards. [/QUOTE] About the same time _Raiders_ was released the title character in _Arthur_ was driving his Rolls convertible through a residential neighborhood while too drunk to stand up straight, and he was the good guy in a rom-com. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/47 "2016-03-29T14:54:15Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > So, just after complaining about “loud and annoying” “SJWs” for pointing out things in old entertainment media that are exploitative or offensive by today’s standards, you jump on the “SJW” bandwagon to join in denouncing Lucas for something he said in 1978? > > Hmm, maybe there’s something socially useful or enlightening after all in confronting and engaging with instances of ideas that people in general **used** to think were okay but now do not. I didn’t go seek out old Lucas quotes to start a thread about how pervy he was. I just commented that he sounded pervy in the quote someone else dug up. I am also not running around making Facebook and tumblr and whatever memes about how horrible white men are because George Lucas once said something pervy. However, given that he already raped my childhood with the prequels, I have no trouble believing he is okay with statutory rape. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/48 "2016-03-29T14:55:46Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > However, given that he already raped my childhood with the prequels, I have no trouble believing he is okay with statutory rape. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/49 "2016-03-29T14:59:44Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > And you do realize time available to any person is a finite quantity right? :dubious: You seem…weirdly intent on reassuring yourself that more attention paid to old fictional statutory rape will mean less attention paid to current actual statutory rape. Like I said, I don’t think that’s how it works. Raising the general consciousness about statutory rape, including the exploration of its toleration or relative acceptance in old entertainment media, tends to make people quicker to perceive such situations when they encounter them in daily life. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/50 "2016-03-29T15:07:24Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > I am also not running around making Facebook and tumblr and whatever memes about how horrible white men are because George Lucas once said something pervy. Lookit those goalposts move! The issue here is about pointing out **specific instances of things we now consider pervy** in old entertainment media where they weren’t considered anywhere near as pervy. That’s all the OP of this thread was doing, and there’s nothing wrong with it. You’re resorting to a strawman argument in which hypothetical unidentified “SJWs” are allegedly trying to demonize “white men” in general by association with Lucas’s remarks. Suffice it to say that that’s not what anybody here is talking about, so maybe keep your whining about “SJWs” for situations in which actual “SJWs” are actually doing such things? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/51 "2016-03-29T15:13:22Z")
Remember too that we saw Indy’s female students flirt with him intensely. I’ll bet he has some history of regularly chasing young women. **PSXer** likes to stir the pot. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/52 "2016-03-29T15:14:37Z")
Plenty of people refer to actual adults as ‘child’ in a figurative context. Republican critics of Bill Clinton referred to the early-20s Monica Lewinsky as a ‘child’ in the context of why Mr. Clinton was wrong to have a relationship with her. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/53 "2016-03-29T15:19:00Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > Remember too that we saw Indy’s female students flirt with him intensely. I’ll bet he has some history of regularly chasing young women. > > **PSXer** likes to stir the pot. 😛 Sounds to me it isn’t Indy doing the chasing…if anything IIRC Indy as the older professor is kinda made uncomfortable with all that young coed attention… Besides, we all know that secretly that Indy is all about that Wookie nookie anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/54 "2016-03-29T15:28:58Z")
You know, we had this discussion several years ago on the Dope already, and no one felt the need to go throwing tumblr insults of SJW (or the 2010 version, feminazi) around. We just discussed pop culture. As you do on the internet. I think it’s a reflection of the times in which he fictionally lived. It _is_ interesting. It’s a 1980s comment on 1930’s attitudes regarding women and consent. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/55 "2016-03-29T15:40:39Z")
> [@Small\_Hen](#): > > You know, we had this discussion several years ago on the Dope already, and no one felt the need to go throwing tumblr insults of SJW (or the 2010 version, feminazi) around. We just discussed pop culture. As you do on the internet. > > I think it’s a reflection of the times in which he fictionally lived. It _is_ interesting. It’s a 1980s comment on 1930’s attitudes regarding women and consent. Yep, no different than watching all the cigarette smoking going on in Casablanca, say, or the drinking in The Thin Man (I really can’t imagine folks had the capacity that those two seem to have in that film!!). I just watch it and kinda think “man, different times.” And yeah, that 80’s view of 30’s matters. As has already been pointed out, a whole bunch of 80’s hit movies show behaviors that these days would cross many lines. Man, different times. Always interesting discussions with my teenagers when we see those movies… ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/56 "2016-03-29T15:45:39Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Lookit those goalposts move! They’d be more stable if you’d stop moving them. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/57 "2016-03-29T15:51:49Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > They’d be more stable if you’d stop moving them. “I’m rubber, you’re glue” is not actually a refutation of a valid criticism of your attempt at an argument. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/58 "2016-03-29T16:10:43Z")
> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#): > > Back when SJW’s was a concept limited to crazy tumblr posts about how manspreading is a hate crime and such, but then it was appropriated by right wingers to use as a disparaging term to anyone in the left and has nowadays evolved to mean “anybody who’s not in the right side of Attila the Hun”. > > So, pretty much a tainted word, or acronym. Such examples of these right of center criticisms/trolling include [Bill Maher](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yzc8glS2r_o) and [Triumph the insult comic](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j556MWGVVqI). ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/59 "2016-03-29T16:12:57Z")
If a 15 year old boy creates a 26 year old woman and sleeps with her. (Almost the plot of Weird Science…I mean, they COULD have had their way with her) has he raped himself? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508/60 "2016-03-29T16:29:38Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Who wouldn’t want to fight for social justice? What was MLK Jr, if not a (metaphorical) warrior for social justice? …no. …As Banquet Bear said SJWs do not exist. MLK Jr. did not exist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-jones-is-a-rapist/750508.md?page=4)