# Indian warship destroys Somali pirate vessel **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 19, 2008, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-warship-destroys-somali-pirate-vessel/473433 "2008-11-19T09:10:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-warship-destroys-somali-pirate-vessel/473433/61 "2008-11-21T01:35:35Z")
> [@Mtgman](#): > > Basically about 90% of the “pirates” are hoping to get one score or two a year, and then they blow most of the ransom on a big party(with booze and “girls”) immediately after. I imagine that was pretty much true of most “traditional” pirates as well. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-warship-destroys-somali-pirate-vessel/473433/62 "2008-11-21T01:59:13Z")
> [@Mtgman](#): > > The interviewee said his wife had taken a job and was supporting the family back home and that was a source of great shame for him, so he couldn’t go home without being a successful pirate. In the meantime he goes hungry three out of four nights and works hand to mouth whenever they’re not out looking for potential victims. > > It’s all messed up. Awwwww…poor pirate. Let’s all chip in and buy him a new RPG. Fuck him and everybody like him. All he deserves is a sudden and painful death, preferably at the end of a rope. With concerted effort, the coast could be somewhat blockaded. Any ship that puts to sea is subject to search. If any weapons are found, the ship is sunk and the crew executed on the spot. That would solve the piracy problem toot sweet. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-warship-destroys-somali-pirate-vessel/473433/63 "2008-11-21T09:33:29Z")
> [@Mtgman](#): > > Basically this guy went to the city to find work for his family, got “seduced into the pirate lifestyle” by seeing the huge party a band of successful pirates throws when they come back from a good raid. Seduced into the pirate lifestyle. I love it. But do they have a pirate agend_arrr_? ---
**Author:** ![slaphead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@slaphead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slaphead)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-warship-destroys-somali-pirate-vessel/473433/64 "2008-11-21T17:41:05Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > Possible Failed State status looming for Yemen, due to pirates. In typical Reuters style that article is as clear as mud. You have to read it very carefully to see that the piracy is a consequence of Yemen’s problems, rather than the other way around. [Here](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7739402.stm) is a better article that gives a better overview. Basically Yemen is suffering from many of the same issues of authoritarianism, misgovernance and tribalism that has fucked most of Africa. Any country where they regularly have to shut down the mobile phone network to stop bandits using them for battlefield communications is circling the drain - once the oil/gas runs out then Somalia II will spring into existence. Joy. ---
**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-warship-destroys-somali-pirate-vessel/473433/65 "2008-11-26T09:45:59Z")
It turns out the Pirate Mothership that was sunk last week, was in fact a [Thai Fishing Ship](http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081126/wl_asia_afp/somaliaunrestpiracyshippingindiamilitaryimb). That’s gotta suck. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-warship-destroys-somali-pirate-vessel/473433/66 "2008-11-26T11:59:21Z")
Oops. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-warship-destroys-somali-pirate-vessel/473433/67 "2008-11-26T12:45:27Z")
Damn, 13 innocent sailors death. That Indian ship should be renamed the INS FUBAR. ---
**Author:** ![ASAKMOTSD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@ASAKMOTSD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASAKMOTSD)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-warship-destroys-somali-pirate-vessel/473433/68 "2008-11-26T13:27:58Z")
Not to worry - that was just the pilot project. Even as we speak, the Indian navy is preparing to do the needful and issue a change order. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-warship-destroys-somali-pirate-vessel/473433/69 "2008-11-26T14:26:56Z")
Weeble’s Jonti takes on [Somalia](http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Somalia/). (Next door to Kenya.) ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-warship-destroys-somali-pirate-vessel/473433/70 "2008-11-26T15:31:28Z")
> [@WormTheRed](#): > > It turns out the Pirate Mothership that was sunk last week, was in fact a [Thai Fishing Ship](http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081126/wl_asia_afp/somaliaunrestpiracyshippingindiamilitaryimb). > > That’s gotta suck. Pretty freaking lousy. I wonder if all of the people who were celebrating the demise of the “pirates” or how cool the Indian navy is will stop in to apologize. I wonder what reparations the Indian government will offer to the families of the innocent people killed in this stupid attack. ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-warship-destroys-somali-pirate-vessel/473433/71 "2008-11-26T17:12:59Z")
**Shibboleth** , I’m not sure it’s as clear-cut as you want to view it. The vessel destroyed had been taken by the pirates, and they were threatening to fire on the Indian vessel. (A significant change in the story, IMNSHO) The Thai fishermen were, per the account of the single known survivor, all tied up but for two. At the time of the sinking the vessel was still under pirate control and armed. At which point, the question of impropriety on the part of the crew settles on whether the Indian Navy’s Rules of Engagement allowed them to use deadly force when they were threatened with force, themselves, or if it required them to have been actually fired upon. An additional fillip is that there’s some question whether the crew of the Indian frigate had any reason to know that the trawler had been taken. From what I recall of the article, they were saying that while the Thai government had notified the Coalition forces, there’s no indication that the Indians had been notified. It is a tragedy, but I’m not sure it’s one that is the fault of the Indian ship, or her crew. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indian-warship-destroys-somali-pirate-vessel/473433.md?page=3)