# Indiana Jones and the Dial Of Destiny

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [December 1, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny/975884 "2022-12-01T21:29:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
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Some kind of climax where he is de-aged or time travels back for a bit would be fine. I think we are hoping for “older Indy” most of the time, though.

Anyone else in the “I like Indiana Jones 4” club? I think it is underrated, like a lot. I prefer it to Temple of Doom.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny/975884/22 "2022-12-02T00:04:40Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> My theory? The movie is actually set in a nursing home, as the aging Indiana Jones slowly loses his memory. His sole enjoyment is watching television, with the channel dial determining whether he has a good or bad day. The entire rest of the film is only in his head.

A premise like this would allow me to sit through any over-the-top plot devices (“Sure, it’s cheesy, but that’s what Dementia Indy likes!”).

Can we also get Shia LeBeouf as an autistic janitor? He could carry around a model of that temple carved into the rock of Al Khazneh… in a snow globe.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny/975884/23 "2022-12-02T00:17:15Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Can we also get Shia LeBeouf as an autistic janitor? He could carry around a model of that temple carved into the rock of Al Khazneh… in a snow globe.

Please no more Shia LeBeouf. In whatever capacity. Just no.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny/975884/24 "2022-12-02T00:33:42Z")

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Hey, Short Round works, too.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny/975884/25 "2022-12-02T00:34:49Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> Please no more Shia LeBeouf. In whatever capacity. Just no.

I dunno. I liked that Borg vs McEnroe movie from a few years ago and he gave a nice normal acting performance in it.

I don’t think he was that bad in Indy 4; in fact he did a great job with a role that we didn’t really need all that much.

At least when the hat blew towards him at the end of the movie, they were smart enough to have Indy grab it, put it on, and kind of laugh at Shia with that “No way, kiddo” look.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny/975884/26 "2022-12-02T00:58:43Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Possibly. I can certainly interpret the title to fit that. The “younger” Indy in the trailer is supposed to be a flashback from the cold open, though.

I get current with interspersed flashbacks, the dial looked like the Antikythera mechanism in that flash we got. Not sure what else it is actually about, maybe Greek mythos coming alive? Underwater makes me think if the Antikythera shipwreck perhaps having more than just the funky astrolabe thingy.

Will I see it? Yes, but once it hits home streaming media - I am long past enjoying going to a theater for a film. I don’t like the seating [maybe if we could go to one that has the neat beds, or really good recliners] I don’t like interfacing with other humans [eew, peopleing.] I dislike craptastic theater junk food [you should try my husbands ‘Irish Nachos’ with hand cut waffle fries, proper bacon, homemade cheddar cheese sauce which is actually welsh rarebit thinned out a smidge] and I don’t have to worry about why my feet are sticking to the floor.

I swear, I should get that video projector, we could hang a huge white surface to project upon, kill the lights, relax in bed and enjoy a big screen experience [my faceblort has been advertising some sort of hook to the computer projector, and a different ad for a home theater sound system with a big subwoofer to make the room shake …]

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny/975884/27 "2022-12-02T01:01:01Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Anyone else in the “I like Indiana Jones 4” club? I think it is underrated, like a lot. I prefer it to Temple of Doom.

I liked it except for some scenes that ran overlong. I actually liked Indy and Marion arguing in the truck, the son was OK in concept, not sure Beefy dude was the best option for playing the kid. I liked the library motorcycle scene where he paused to tell the students the best references to use.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny/975884/28 "2022-12-02T01:04:41Z")

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The monkeys or whatever could go and I think Indy should have killed more, if you can believe it. Who does he kill in Indy 4?

The blow-dart he blew back into that one guy. Do blow darts work if blown backwards?

That Russian guy he punched into the ants. An actual proper kill there.

In Indiana Jones 3, he killed more guys in the one scene where he rescued his Dad.

“Look what you did, Junior! I can’t believe what you did!”

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny/975884/29 "2022-12-02T01:34:04Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> _“The Dial of Destiny?”_
> 
> I hope it’s more than a crummy commercial.

Indy is more Metamucil than Olaltine now.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny/975884/30 "2022-12-02T02:27:05Z")

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“The Dial of Destiny” sounds like a morning zoo drivetime radio gag.

“The fourth person to call in will be today’s Dial of Destiny!”

I am not confident that this movie will be any good.

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Some people here might remember that Raiders of the Lost Ark was inspired as an homage to Saturday matinee serials (how many here actually ever saw any of those in a theater? I did), with action sequences, and cliffhangers, and not a big regard for logic in the plot. Those serials were also noted for cheesy production values, uninspired dialog, and a lot of repetitiveness. So it looks like this new installment just carries all of that to its logical extreme. Pardon me while I go yawn about something else.

> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> I am not confident that this movie will be any good.

Really? What was your first clue?

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I’m just stunned that the new Indiana Jones movie that feels like it’ll just be a cash-in on a property that should have been put to bed (it belongs in a museum!!) so I’m not going to bother see it is 14 years old.

I’ll go slink away to the old man corner now.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny/975884/33 "2022-12-02T08:08:24Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Anyone else in the “I like Indiana Jones 4” club? I think it is underrated, like a lot. I prefer it to Temple of Doom.

I haven’t personally watched it all the way through, but I was working at Blockbuster when it came out, and my manager chose _Kingdom of the Crystal Skull_ to show off the greater clarity of Blu-ray as opposed to DVD, to great effect.

For some reason, though, he chose, during his sales pitch, to push the fact that Blu-ray has loading screens (and DVDs don’t) as a feature, not a bug.

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> For some reason, though, he chose, during his sales pitch, to push the fact that Blu-ray has loading screens (and DVDs don’t) as a feature, not a bug.

They have what? What was he talking about?

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I’m excited for this and I hate myself for that.

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> [@digs](#):
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> Hey, Short Round works, too.

After watching _Everything Everywhere All At Once_ I can say that the return of Ke Huy Quan would elevate an IJ film far more than the return of Shia LeBoeuf.

> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> “The Dial of Destiny” sounds like a morning zoo drivetime radio gag.
> 
> “The fourth person to call in will be today’s Dial of Destiny!”
> 
> I am not confident that this movie will be any good.

It really is a terrible title. And I agree that the fact that they’ve gone with such a terrible title does not bode well for the film itself.

I still miss _The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles_ - still the same OTT action interspersed with world events and famous people (like _Forrest Gump_ with more punching) but with better writing and fewer ludicrous Macguffins. I’d rather see a more measured Netflix series starring Ford (maybe six episodes’ worth) than yet another “Indie goes in search of another magic item while fighting off villains too silly for Bond films, whose heads melt at the end” film.

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That would be cool.

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If anyone’s interested, the [Critical Drinker](https://youtu.be/8395JgNJ0sg) has posted his reaction to this trailer, including a mention of the dismaying rumors that have been going around since word of a disastrous test screening have gotten out.

The rumors, if true, would constitute a huge spoiler, so be advised.

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Over the years, I’ve gone from thinking “The Indy franchise is a good series marred by a bad film” to “the Indy franchise is a BAD series that got incredibly lucky in the first film so much they’re still fooling people that they are good films.” Not unlike Star Wars.

I’ve even come to think of Last Crusade as more like Return of the Jedi. It’s got some good _parts_, but it really isn’t a good _film_.

I mean, 14 years since the last film, plenty of time to come up with a great story, and the words “disastrous test screening” are being used? How can that happen?

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