# Indiana Jones and The...um, Empire of the... uh something something **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 15, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134 "2009-09-15T02:50:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![parthenokinesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@parthenokinesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parthenokinesis)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/1 "2009-09-15T02:50:58Z")
Harrison has [announced](http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/access-hollywood-indiana-jones-5.html) he is willing to do Indy 5, if… The script is good. Is it possible to make this condition retro-active? ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/2 "2009-09-15T02:53:50Z")
They had nearly 20 years to get a “good” script last time out…and look at what happened. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/3 "2009-09-15T03:39:55Z")
Well, so far, every odd-numbered Indiana Jones movie has been good. So we can at least hope… ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/4 "2009-09-15T07:00:15Z")
> [@parthenokinesis](#): > > Harrison has [announced](http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/access-hollywood-indiana-jones-5.html) he is willing to do Indy 5, if… > > The script is good. That’s a not-so-subtle dig at the writing skills of George Lucas, right? Of course he wasn’t always this coy.“George, you can type this shit, but you sure can’t say it.” ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/5 "2009-09-15T07:04:19Z")
Can Harrison Ford buy a starring role in anything these days? I think this is a cry for help. Didn’t Adam West once say the same thing? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/6 "2009-09-15T08:21:07Z")
> [@Lantern](#): > > That’s a not-so-subtle dig at the writing skills of George Lucas, right? George Lucas does not write the Indiana Jones movies. He only comes up with the story. Though he does get initial script approval. I look forward to seeing how awful _Indiana Jones And The Nasty Men_ turns out to be. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/7 "2009-09-15T14:20:27Z")
Harrison should speak up for himself and everyone. “I’m willing to do Indy 5, but not if Lucas is involved.” ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/8 "2009-09-15T14:31:25Z")
> [@parthenokinesis](#): > > Is it possible to make this condition retro-active? Yes, but only by watching Temple of Doom over and over again until you start to wonder why it doesn’t get the credit it deserves as a cinematic masterpiece and why Kate Capshaw isn’t a bigger star. Otherwise, it is best to pretend that there were only two Indiana Jones movies ever made. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/9 "2009-09-15T14:43:42Z")
Why is he just now asking for a good script? I saw the first three movies for the first time a couple weeks ago, and though _Temple of Doom_ was by far the worst, I thought all three were pretty terrible. ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/10 "2009-09-15T14:51:19Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Why is he just now asking for a good script? I saw the first three movies for the first time a couple weeks ago, and though _Temple of Doom_ was by far the worst, I thought all three were pretty terrible. Heathen! Get the rope. ---
**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/11 "2009-09-15T14:56:19Z")
I thought the last one was just fine. I don’t know why everyone was so worked up about aliens. One fiction is just as good as another. Temple of Doom is the only one that really stinks. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/12 "2009-09-15T15:31:36Z")
When you have the Refrigerator Nuclear Bunker and the Anti-Communist Monkey Army, plexiglass skulled aliens are the least of your script problems. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/13 "2009-09-15T15:52:45Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > and why Kate Capshaw isn’t a bigger star. I hear she quit show business, and moved to Ireland to work in Fair Folking. As a banshee. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/14 "2009-09-15T16:09:56Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > When you have the Refrigerator Nuclear Bunker and the Anti-Communist Monkey Army, plexiglass skulled aliens are the least of your script problems. It is a well known fact that monkey’s are capitalists so that’s not so far fetched. Does this mean we get to suggest more names for the next movie, like Indiana Jones and the Box of Depends? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/15 "2009-09-15T16:33:23Z")
If the timeline keeps up, in the next movie he’d be fighting in Viet Nam, right? ---
**Author:** ![palindromemordnilap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/db5fbb/32.png) [@palindromemordnilap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/palindromemordnilap)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/16 "2009-09-15T16:58:05Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > Does this mean we get to suggest more names for the next movie, like Indiana Jones and the Box of Depends? Raiders of the Lost Bifocals (spoiler alert: “Oh, here they are on my head!”) ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/17 "2009-09-15T17:08:32Z")
I know, I know, Indy is an old man now. But Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was decently fun and I have the perfect title for Indy 5… Indiana Jones and the [Boys From Brazil](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077269/) It’s got everything. An exotic location, crazy pseudoscience/mysticism and Nazis! ---
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/18 "2009-09-15T18:25:54Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > Well, so far, every odd-numbered Indiana Jones movie has been good. So we can at least hope… This is true. Perhaps it’s not the numbering that’s decisive though. [http://lifeingraphs.com/?p=20](http://lifeingraphs.com/?p=20) ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/19 "2009-09-15T18:46:14Z")
> [@parthenokinesis](#): > > Harrison has [announced](http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/access-hollywood-indiana-jones-5.html) he is willing to do Indy 5, if… > > The script is good. I can’t help wondering if he’s hoping for a “do-over,” or that he actually thought the _last_ script was good? (_Indiana Jones and the Erectile Dysfunction_?) ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134/20 "2009-09-15T18:51:52Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > I know, I know, Indy is an old man now. … Here’s the thing. Harrison Ford’s age played almost no role in my disappointment with the film. Don’t get me wrong. It was an OK movie. It’s just that the MacGuffin was weak and the monkeys were over the top. A little too much campiness. But it was still a passable film when judged on its own merits and not those of the earlier films plus twenty years of nostalgia. Even with these negatives pushing it well behind Temple of Doom for 4th place, Harrison Ford himself was actually kind of fun to watch. An old action hero can work in the right setting. I think Ford was fine and would be fine in the next one. I’d like to see them set it in Moscow or East Germany. [sub] Besides, my son LOVED it, which brought me a world of joy![/sub] [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/indiana-jones-and-the-um-empire-of-the-uh-something-something/510134.md?page=2)